Strategy Round 5: Trades

How many trades have you used before making any in Round 5?

  • 6

    Votes: 6 4.0%
  • 5

    Votes: 7 4.7%
  • 4

    Votes: 27 18.1%
  • 3

    Votes: 32 21.5%
  • 2

    Votes: 37 24.8%
  • 1

    Votes: 25 16.8%
  • 0

    Votes: 15 10.1%

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If you could trade in any FWD premo, who would you get (aside from Danger, Heeney, and Darling)?

I'm turfing Dunkley and it feels like all the options aren't that attractive. Boak- overpriced. Gray, Kelly, Menegola, D Smith, Gunston- haven't bottomed out yet. Gresham, Billings, Daniel- probably traps. Marshal and various others- not for me.
If you don’t like Marshall I think just hold
 
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Setterfield to ROB is what I'm considering. Two weeks out, and if form continues won't generate that much more cash. I can't see the point in keeping him.

Hore and Stack also interest me, so it would either be J. Clark to Hore, or Scott/Atkins/Butters to Stack.

Can't work out what to do, but the Setterfield > ROB seems straightforward.

Any advice? Have only used one trade so far.

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Don't think that any of Clark, Scott, Atkins or Butters are ready to go yet. If you have to, probably Butters because that 23 whatever it was will hinder his cash generation for a couple of weeks but I still think he'll get past $300k eventually.
 
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the options aren't that attractive. Boak- overpriced.
Maybe, but he's a battle hardened warrior with a big heart who rarely misses games. If you believe in the existence of statistical anomalies, he could be an example this year. Plus he's relatively under-owned which may not be a bad thing right now.
Admittedly Westcoast will be his first real test so far this season. BE mid 60s
Oddly enough right now he's the only fwd I feel any confidence in, but Coach Hinkley could always throw a curved ball at anytime.
PS: fwiw, I don't reckon it's essential to turf Dunkley just yet.
 

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Don't quite agree with this.

I think it's too late to be waiting til after mid season to fully upgrade your side, if you're gunning for a good overall score. Fast cash generation is key to quick upgrades and getting rookies off the field asap. ROB definitely necessary to achieve that purpose. We're already seeing the fwd rookies really struggle, not sure how much longer the mid rookies can last too (Butters dropped a shocker, Constable had a down game). Cash is needed sooner rather than later to afford those top bracket guys like Lloyd, Macrae, Neale prior to the byes as well.

All in all, ROB is a must in my books. I'd try to find a way to fit him in, wouldn't eat a donut to get him but I'd risk an iffy fwd bench to fit him in. (I will have Parker/Bines myself).
I agree that it’s all about cash generation, although it is always a relative game. If we get a second wave in round 10 (which is my understanding) I think we can use an early cull or two there to do final upgrades just coming out of the byes to make sure we get a Macrae type rather than maybe a M Crouch type as our final upgrade. I’d love to be fully upgraded before then but my experience is that that is quite rare, and I can’t recall doing it/seeing it done without what I would regard as slightly compromised keeper picks. Do you think this can consistently be achieved?

ROB now looks like an absolute lock to me, especially for those who can trade a dud forward rookie to him ... my comment about his cash being less important in that scenario was largely just trying to balance up the argument :)
 
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You people who are trading in Stack, who are you trading him out for?
It's a good question. I don't think that any of the mid rookies are near ripe enough for a downgrade and unless you can manipulate a correction trade for a spud like Balta via DPP, I'm not sure if it's worth it.

I'm personally going to pass on Stack and grab O'Brien via Bines. With Jacobs out now, O'Brien should make a fair amount of cash in a shortish period of time if he keeps on going at 80 ppg.
 
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Really want to make 3 Trades this week (actually looking at my team maybe 30 would be better)

now thinking about Mumford again

English - > Mumford (R2)
Parker/Setterfield/Balta - > ROB (R3) (via Bines) don't like the idea of Balta and Bines at F7 & F8 though, think Parker & Setterfield still could make some $$$
 
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It's a good question. I don't think that any of the mid rookies are near ripe enough for a downgrade and unless you can manipulate a correction trade for a spud like Balta via DPP, I'm not sure if it's worth it.
That's what I was thinking myself, fair enough if you have a premo who has really cratered/injured and want to get rid of, but its a bit useless to be trading out any of the other rookies at this stage, even the poor Gibbons given how little cash you'll make.
 
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Was so content with Dunkley, Butters to Lloyd, Stack until ROB came to light...
 
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That's what I was thinking myself, fair enough if you have a premo who has really cratered/injured and want to get rid of, but its a bit useless to be trading out any of the other rookies at this stage, even the poor Gibbons given how little cash you'll make.
If it were two or three weeks to the future Stack would be a decent downgrade for a Atkins or Scott to park on the bench but I think right now it's too early. There are a few mid rookies to come in potentially in the next few rounds anyway, Hind, Hately, Hayes for the dogs potentially in a couple of weeks, rookies will be there.

O'Brien will hit $300k by round 8 if he goes at 80ppg, I don't think any other rookie on the bubble presents this quick cash generation opportunity, or potentially a fair bit more than that up to his bye.
 
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Can potentially look at:

Setterfield > Stack (Duursma to def, Rozee to Fwds)

Or

Setterfield > O'Brien (Bines to fwd)

Second option means Bines is a donut on my forward bench but the rookies aren't much better than a 0 anyway. Thoughts?
 

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True - only his current role has me intrigued. Ive got my concerns though and was close last week but hard to ignore his numbers.

Really wanted to see him against McEvoy last week.

Fielding 2 rookies forward is also killing me.
I can definitely see the appeal and close to grabbing himself but if teams permit, think I’ll just get Rocky and be done with it. Otherwise I’ll be jumping on Marshall myself, albeit a little reluctantly.

He just feels like he’s going to be a meh pick in the long run but as a forward, I think he’s a gamble we can take.
 
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wow that Danger bloke expected to loss 60 K over the next 3 weeks:)
I did consider briefly trading him out, and getting him back in a few weeks, but it's not really worth it. Especially with the amount of other trades I have had to make.
 
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I did consider briefly trading him out, and getting him back in a few weeks, but it's not really worth it. Especially with the amount of other trades I have had to make.
I was just looking on TooSerious and noticed him, some were thinking Gawn to ROB, maybe Danger to ROB

god I gotta stop thinking
 
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I can definitely see the appeal and close to grabbing himself but if teams permit, think I’ll just get Rocky and be done with it. Otherwise I’ll be jumping on Marshall myself, albeit a little reluctantly.

He just feels like he’s going to be a meh pick in the long run but as a forward, I think he’s a gamble we can take.
Yeah and that's it. Might not be long term and I've only used one trade. I've got Lloyd, Whitfield, Libba, Rocky really just missing Neale and Boak but not keen at that price. Just need to get a forward rookie off field. Caleb Daniel is another I'm looking at.
 

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I agree that it’s all about cash generation, although it is always a relative game. If we get a second wave in round 10 (which is my understanding) I think we can use an early cull or two there to do final upgrades just coming out of the byes to make sure we get a Macrae type rather than maybe a M Crouch type as our final upgrade. I’d love to be fully upgraded before then but my experience is that that is quite rare, and I can’t recall doing it/seeing it done without what I would regard as slightly compromised keeper picks. Do you think this can consistently be achieved?

ROB now looks like an absolute lock to me, especially for those who can trade a dud forward rookie to him ... my comment about his cash being less important in that scenario was largely just trying to balance up the argument :)
I think we're probably on the same page, if you're also viewing ROB as an absolute lock.

I agree that it's not realistic to finish your side before byes and probably even detrimental as bye round upgrades are a crucial part of the bye trading strategy. I think the second wave or final downgrade rookies might be of a decent quality this year with the new supplemental rookie rules, so not as concerned about downgrade options. Being able to find the cash now to be able to move rookies off the field asap is important though, especially as it seems like we have more slow burns than fast burners this season. ROB helps that goal!
 
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Might have to miss the ROB boat as I’m stuck with Z Clarke at R3,don’t want to go sideways,and no DPP , but the cash generation is quite enticing. What a year to not pick a R/F .
 

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Might have to miss the ROB boat as I’m stuck with Z Clarke at R3,don’t want to go sideways,and no DPP , but the cash generation is quite enticing. What a year to not pick a R/F .
I think you should make that ZClarke to ROB trade. ZClarke most certainly be out next week or whenever JD returns, not much time left for him.
 
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wow that Danger bloke expected to loss 60 K over the next 3 weeks:)
Who would have thought he would be a player it would be more or less safe to not start? He can have shockers scoring wise, you just have no idea when they're going to come.
 
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