Strategy Round 6: Trades

How many trades have you used before making any in rd 6?

  • 8

    Votes: 5 3.1%
  • 7

    Votes: 4 2.5%
  • 6

    Votes: 22 13.5%
  • 5

    Votes: 27 16.6%
  • 4

    Votes: 40 24.5%
  • 3

    Votes: 37 22.7%
  • 2

    Votes: 19 11.7%
  • 1

    Votes: 8 4.9%
  • 0

    Votes: 1 0.6%

  • Total voters
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I am having a hard time working out what to do, I think I am going to go Clark to Lockhart. Purely to put some cash in the bank, I am not sold on Lockhart's scoring or JS but it banks $140k for me and I need that going into the next couple of weeks. If I don't do this I don't know who I cash out Clark to and when....
I'm considering the same trade. I'm also considering Clark to Rotham though. Rotham doesn't have good JS but he looks to have better scoring potential than Lockhart. If Lockhart is potentially going to sit on the pine/get dropped then I'd rather have Rotham who might make more money. Lockhart does have the D/M swing though. Annoying that we won't know weekend teams before tonight's game.
 
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My current ruck setup is Gawn, Goldy, ROB with Bines at F8.

I'm thinking about trading Goldy to Ross or Baker via Bines and running with ROB at R2. (Jacobs still listed as 4-6 weeks).

I need to get Grundy at some point, so thinking Goldy may as well go now because ROB looks like he will score better than most rookies.

Thoughts?
 
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He has never been a premium and I don't expect that to change this year. Scores may drop off a bit when the Saints lose a few games too. Better options.
Yeah you're probably right.

I think I'm trying too hard to find a fwd or def under $450k because then I'd be able to go 2 up, 2 down over the next 2 weeks. I think the only one that is worth considering is Worpel but worried hes destined to end up between 85-90 for the year
 
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My current ruck setup is Gawn, Goldy, ROB with Bines at F8.

I'm thinking about trading Goldy to Ross or Baker via Bines and running with ROB at R2. (Jacobs still listed as 4-6 weeks).

I need to get Grundy at some point, so thinking Goldy may as well go now because ROB looks like he will score better than most rookies.

Thoughts?
I think there's definitely value in that.

Given his role as main ruck for at least the next few weeks it would be hard to see him average less than 75-80 over that time which, as you say, is better than most other rookies. As long as you have a plan as to how you'll get Grundy in when Sauce comes back.

You'd also want to be maximising the benefit from the money you are getting from trading Goldy down this week
 
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I'm really tempted to do the double downgrade thang with the two Tiger cubs, but I'm really put off by Baker's price. I'm also really, really tempted to trade out Neale but his next 5 games have big potential for him, so its probably somehow shooting both feet, not just the one. At this stage I've locked in an upgrade to a FWD POD and am probably looking at someone to Ross, or I may just hold fire and wait for Hately next week.
 
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I'm really tempted to do the double downgrade thang with the two Tiger cubs, but I'm really put off by Baker's price. I'm also really, really tempted to trade out Neale but his next 5 games have big potential for him, so its probably somehow shooting both feet, not just the one. At this stage I've locked in an upgrade to a FWD POD and am probably looking at someone to Ross, or I may just hold fire and wait for Hately next week.
Are you considering Hayes next week?

If so which 3 mid rookies are you looking at downgrading for Ross, Hately and Hayes?
 
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My current ruck setup is Gawn, Goldy, ROB with Bines at F8.

I'm thinking about trading Goldy to Ross or Baker via Bines and running with ROB at R2. (Jacobs still listed as 4-6 weeks).

I need to get Grundy at some point, so thinking Goldy may as well go now because ROB looks like he will score better than most rookies.

Thoughts?
Not a fan. Goldy isn't dropping in Cash. Grundy is only going down to about 650. Still need alot of Cash to get grundy in and dont see the cash from goldy being invested elsewhere thats going to make a big impact.

All the best if you try it
 
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Am I crazy for considering Shiel? Am I playing too much with my heart instead of my head? 3 scores over 110 and only one below the ton (92) but I know it's a small sample size. Gee the thought of two Bombers in my midfield gets me excited. It's only been Merrett for the past few years.
 
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Collins is maxed out so I'd be moving him and Darling on.

Do we even know if Rotham is playing this week? I'd be inclined to go for option 2.
I like option 2 the most.
Daniel's been outstanding this season in terms of SC and is a genuine POD but is anyone worried about his role? The Dogs aren't exactly flying and you'd think, to quote Sam Cooke, a change is gonna come.

FYI I do have a genuine set against players like him because he's a midget so just FYI I'm biased against him. Still, having said all that, if he maintains that role he's probably a good pickup.

Thanks for the responses guys.
Would it change anyone's opinion in the knowledge of the following week if I did to option 1 (Clark and Darling -> Baker and Daniel) that I'd be looking to do Constable and Collins -> Hately and Kelly (via Moore)?


The different approaches to the scenarios and positives and negatives i was looking at is:

Positives
Option 1)
Let Kelly possibly drop in value a little more whilst also avoiding him this week with the possible Hutchings tag and getting him in via Collins the following week.

In this scenario it doesn't seem like a loss waiting one more week on Collins as his BE is only 43 (the same as Clark and appears to be a better scorer than Clark). He is also playing Brisbane who often with their run and gun style blaze into forward 50 a bit too carelessly, opening the door for intercept marks.

Option 2)
Get Kelly in the side now who is likely a top 4 forward and definite keeper all year baring injury in what seems like a certain role for the remainder of the season.

Leaves me with 40k to assess my options next week (will target Hately via Constable or Scott and probably another downgrade unless I can get Clark to Daniel (probably just out of my range with Daniel's BE and only having $400 left if i do option 1).

Negatives:
Option 1)
Only $400 left in the kitty and things can't drastically go astray this week in my plan to be able to get Kelly and Hately via Collins and Constable next week.

Is Daniel a keeper as a top 6-8 forward this year? We don't have a heap of evidence on him and Bevo isn't a stranger to shuffling things around. Can he keep getting 30 touches a week and score consistent 90-105's?

Option 2)
Kelly could face the Hutchings tag this week and cost me important work league matches, he could also break it and go large and win it for me though.

Selling early on Collins who still only has a 43 BE and could go large against Brisbane, whilst Clark appears like he either might not even play this week or play and has less scoring potential than Collins anyway.



Will not have enough to cash to grab Daniel next week. However, may have enough to move Clark to a Worpel if things go right.
The alternative to option 1 is going Worpel over Daniel and then I'll almost certainly have enough cash to execute the Collins to Kelly plan next week.

In the end, weighing all of that up, is it best to go (taking into consideration Kelly possibly tag this week, Collins low BE and good game potential and Daniel/Worpel keeper question-ability):

1) Darling + Collins -> Baker + T.Kelly and Constable + Clark -> Hately + Worpel (the following week)
2) Darling + Clark -> Baker + C.Daniel and Constable + Collins -> Hately + T.Kelly (the following week)
3) Darling + Clark -> Baker + Worpel and Constable + Collins -> Hately + T.Kelly (the following week)




Let me know your thoughts and anyone else if they have an opinion.

Cheers,
 
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I'm a little nervous about Lockhart - not much inspires me apart from his $102k price tag.

I find myself moving Scott to Ross and Bines to Baker but taking a cash hit to set rookies in place. Going a Collins/Clark type to Lockhart puts some coin in the coffers for an upgrade next week but still doesn't feel right.
I was wondering if anyone was doing this as I’m considering it as well but feels like it might become problematic when ROB fully matures.

What would be the plan when it’s time to cash ROB in? Without the flexibility of bringing in a fwd to replace him, it would probably have to be another donut unless someone puts their hand up or you wanted to pay a little extra for Clarke who might get another game at some stage.
 
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My trades this week dictated by my desire to get Tim Kelly in whilst his price still ok. Need to trade Rozee and someone else but only Sam Collins has enough cash to allow me to go one upgrade and one 2nd generation rookie in. Having look of how to do trade with my structure only Liam Baker works which is dear for a rookie but just feel got to do it as no other forward rookies this week make me confident I should grab. So done the trade now and plan to do Rozee and Tim Kelly in a couple of days when Port play. Thought I would make more cash out of Collins but last week low score and need for some fattish type rookie to help get Kelly means he goes before I expected. Still got Bailey Scott and Setterfield but they not got the cash I needed so Collins gets milked now.

Collins to Baker done via loophole agents Tobe Watson moved to where Collins was and other loophole agent Matt Walker moved to midfield.
Baker will have emergency tonight and take score via Setterfield if he scores well enough.
 
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Are you considering Hayes next week?

If so which 3 mid rookies are you looking at downgrading for Ross, Hately and Hayes?
Hayes I'm out on at this stage, ie I'm probably not getting him.

I have CWagner who is a mid so if Ross comes in it will probably be for him as I really doubt CWagner comes back into the Dees side anytime soon. However if I do do that it probably puts me out of the running for Hately the week after and Hately is the better pick IMO, even at the steeper price and factoring in the incremental profit on CWagner as a result.

That was one of the attractions of axing Neale (apart from the fact I view him as overpriced): I could get both Ross and Hately in, but assuming Ross' place is contingent on Cotchin's health I don't really see him lasting that long in the team so he would have limited cash generation.

Another route is to go early on Constable, he'll be picked this week and will probably resume his sharp upward ascent, but 95% of rookies have a dud game around the corner so assuming he's going to make that much more money on top of ~ $300k price at the end of this round is probably being too optimistic. Still, if I do go early on him next week I will definitely be missing out on a few $ at least.

If I went that route, it would be CWagner > Ross this week, and Constable > Hately the week after.

At this stage though I'm probably just going to go CWagner > Hately next week and give Ross, Baker and Hayes a miss.
 
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I reckon this week we might see Atkins put some time into Hurn, like he did with Laird in the first quarter or so of week 3, hopefully that can drive Hurns price down. Seriously how has this guy Hurn got this much better at his age? Kick ins are helping him but he is absolutely killing it.
 
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Who you leaning towards at the moment mate?
I'm thinking just grab Kelly this week, pass on Daniel and Worpel and then look at bringing in a defender next week with Hately or just dobule down and grab Hately and Hayes possibly.

If i had to say right now with cash projections etc it will probably be one of these three options:

Darling + Collins -> T.Kelly + Baker FOLLOWING WEEK: Clark + Constable -> B.Smith + J.Hately
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Darling + Collins -> T.Kelly + Baker FOLLOWING WEEK: Clark + Constable -> J.Crisp + W.Hayes
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Darling + Collins -> T.Kelly + Baker FOLLOWING WEEK: B.Scott + Constable -> J.Crisp + W.Hayes (pocket the 275k+)
 
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