Opinion 2020: Super Early Player Discussions
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Thanks for that , very interesting to see.
I gather the blue dots are where he gets his possession , but what do the red and yellow shading mean ? is that where he is physically on the field ?
I guess they then split the defensive and offensive % stats at half way.
Certainly he and Houston seemingly had positional changes after Shanghai, Houston may have been in the square for Shanghai
I gather the blue dots are where he gets his possession , but what do the red and yellow shading mean ? is that where he is physically on the field ?
I guess they then split the defensive and offensive % stats at half way.
Certainly he and Houston seemingly had positional changes after Shanghai, Houston may have been in the square for Shanghai
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no probs, I have not really looked at the heat maps before so very interesting to see.
now your project for next season is to provide them all for every player hahaha
I guess the % split is different to what CD use to determine players positions but he (and Houston) are on the watch list.
one thing for sure is he doesn't like venturing into the F50 much at all
now your project for next season is to provide them all for every player hahaha
I guess the % split is different to what CD use to determine players positions but he (and Houston) are on the watch list.
one thing for sure is he doesn't like venturing into the F50 much at all
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Positions are heat maps + Starting positions at centre bounces and stoppages I'm pretty sure.
Yeah he likes to hang just outside the the 50 when he's playing up the ground by the looks of it. They have Duursma and Amon as the two primary wingers but it looks like he was the 3rd one to play there late in the season.
Definitely not going to be doing that regularly, it's pretty boring!
Yeah he likes to hang just outside the the 50 when he's playing up the ground by the looks of it. They have Duursma and Amon as the two primary wingers but it looks like he was the 3rd one to play there late in the season.
Definitely not going to be doing that regularly, it's pretty boring!
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Should be beneficial for J Sicily who is slightly discounted due to being utilised fwd at stages in the latter half of the season.
J Sicily:
2018 SC:
2018 Avg: 105.07 from 14
Wins: 111.5 from 8 (low of 61 and a high of 145, 2/8 below 100, 3/8 120+)
Losses: 96.5 from 6 (low of 77 and a high of 123, 4/6 below 100, 1/6 120+)
Pre Bye: 105 from 9 (low of 61 and a high of 145, 3/9 below 100, 3/9 120+)
Post Bye: 105.2 from 5 (low of 90 and a high of 135, 3/5 below 100, 1/5 120+)
Disposals: 23.9
SC Avg when disposals equal/exceed 24: 114.29 from 7 (low of 90 and a high of 145, 2/7 below 100, 3/7 120+)
SC Avg when disposals below 24: 95.86 from 7 (low of 61 and a high of 135, 4/7 below 100, 1/7 120+)
Marks: 7.5
SC Avg when marks equal/exceed 8: 112.57 from 7 (low of 92 and a high of 145, 2/7 below 100, 2/7 120+)
SC Avg when marks below 8: 97.57 from 7 (low of 61 and a high of 135, 4/7 below 100, 2/7 120+)
2019 SC:
2019 Avg: 93.82 from 22
Wins: 100.64 from 11 (low of 47 and a high of 140, 5/11 below 100, 4/11 120+)
Losses: 87 from 11 (low of 40 and a high of 119, 8/11 below 100, 0/11 120+)
Pre Bye: 99.82 from 11 (low of 75 and a high of 127, 5/11 below 100, 1/11 120+)
Post Bye: 87.82 from 11 (low of 40 and a high of 141, 8/11 below 100, 3/11 120+)
Disposals: 21.09
SC Avg when disposals equal/exceed 22: 114.3 from 10 (low of 91 and a high of 141, 2/10 below 100, 3/10 120+)
SC Avg when disposals below 22: 76.75 from 12 (low of 40 and a high of 124, 11/12 below 100, 1/12 120+)
Marks: 7.18
SC Avg when marks equal/exceed 8: 108.55 from 11 (low of 75 and a high of 141, 3/11 below 100, 3/11 120+)
SC Avg when marks below 8: 79.09 from 11 (low of 40 and a high of 140, 10/11 below 100, 1/11 120+)
Since his breakout post bye in 2017 he has only managed 7 games below 18 disposals from 46 matches with 5 of those occurring post bye 2018.
SC avg since post bye 2017: 96.72 from 46
SC avg when disposals equal/exceed 18 since post bye 2017: 104.56 from 39 (3/39 below 80, 22/39 100+)
SC avg when disposals below 18 since post bye 2017: 53 from 7 (5/7 below 65, 7/7 below 80)
Also during that period has averaged 22.61 disposals from 46 matches.
SC avg when disposals equal/exceed 23 since post bye 2017: 112.35 from 26 (low of 87 and a high of 145, 7/26 below 100, 8/26 120+)
SC avg when disposals below 23 since post bye 2017: 76.4 from 20 (low of 25 and a high of 124, 17/20 below 100, 1/20 120+)
@Connoisseur - what are you thinking re the interplay between Frost and Sicily? I don’t know much of Frost, but I would have thought that Hawthorn adding a forward (rather than a defender) would be positive for Sicily’s scoring, by reducing the likelihood that he is played forward.
Maybe you’re thinking that this doesn’t change Sicily’s chances of playing forward, but he can play a more loose/intercepting role because Frost is tall and will take one of the more containing defender roles?
Maybe you’re thinking that this doesn’t change Sicily’s chances of playing forward, but he can play a more loose/intercepting role because Frost is tall and will take one of the more containing defender roles?
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I am interested in Hugh Greenwood at the Suns.
These are his stats from Adelaide:
Hugh
Greenwood
Games Played
51
Disposals
16.9
Average
Goals
0.7
Above Avg
Clearances
4.4
Elite
Tackles
6.4
Elite
Contested Possessions
11.3
Elite
I see a lot of upside in SC if he can increase his disposal numbers to 20+ next season. He ranks elite in a few SC friendly areas such as contested possession, tackles and clearances.
I don't watch many interstate games (as free to air doesn't play many) so can anyone give me an accurate description of his role for the Crows over the past 2 years and maybe an opinion whether he can play other roles as well, cheers and looking forward to peoples thoughts.
These are his stats from Adelaide:
Hugh
Greenwood
Games Played
51
Disposals
16.9
Average
Goals
0.7
Above Avg
Clearances
4.4
Elite
Tackles
6.4
Elite
Contested Possessions
11.3
Elite
I see a lot of upside in SC if he can increase his disposal numbers to 20+ next season. He ranks elite in a few SC friendly areas such as contested possession, tackles and clearances.
I don't watch many interstate games (as free to air doesn't play many) so can anyone give me an accurate description of his role for the Crows over the past 2 years and maybe an opinion whether he can play other roles as well, cheers and looking forward to peoples thoughts.
That could be a great call @BlueNwhiteHoops ... I hadn’t realized he was an M-F this year, but I would have thought he’s highly relevant if he retains forward eligibility.
Unfortunately I can’t offer any insight on his role except looking at the stats ... interestingly his I50s were down this year and he didn’t manage a single goal assist (!) suggesting to me that maybe he wasn’t playing forward as much as in 2018? His R50s were also up a fair bit, and his clearances have been basically flat every year. Maybe he played a bit more D-M this year??
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/H/Hugh_Greenwood.html
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-adelaide-crows--hugh-greenwood
Unfortunately I can’t offer any insight on his role except looking at the stats ... interestingly his I50s were down this year and he didn’t manage a single goal assist (!) suggesting to me that maybe he wasn’t playing forward as much as in 2018? His R50s were also up a fair bit, and his clearances have been basically flat every year. Maybe he played a bit more D-M this year??
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/H/Hugh_Greenwood.html
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-adelaide-crows--hugh-greenwood
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Very astute observation/suggestion and hopefully he maintains his fwd status and dual position eligibility thus becoming an enticing SC option. Plays a very SC friendly and conducive game style as noted above in relation to his high averages in categories such as tackles and contested possessions.
As alluded to above the change of scenery should be extremely beneficial and 1 would assume that his time on ground, disposal and tackle averages will receive an increment. A very high CPR% in conjunction with not displaying a tendency to handball before kick also bodes well for him.
H Greenwood:
Career SC Avg: 85.42 from 48 (18/48 below 80, 36/48 below 100, 2/48 120+)
2017 SC Avg: 84.58 from 12
2018 SC Avg: 85.95 from 22
2019 SC Avg: 85.29 from 14
Career Tackles Avg: 6.58
SC avg when tackles equal/exceed 7: 95.04 from 24 (low of 70 and a high of 127, 4/24 below 80, 16/24 below 100, 1/24 120+)
SC avg when tackles below 7: 75.79 from 24 (low of 45 and a high of 133, 14/24 below 80, 20/24 below 100, 1/24 120+)
Career Contested Possessions Avg: 11.38
SC avg when contested possessions equal/exceed 12: 99.62 from 21 (low of 68 and a high of 133, 2/21 below 80, 12/21 below 100, 2/21 120+)
SC avg when contested possessions below 12: 74.37 from 27 (low of 45 and a high of 104, 14/24 below 80, 24/27 below 100, 0/27 120+)
As alluded to above the change of scenery should be extremely beneficial and 1 would assume that his time on ground, disposal and tackle averages will receive an increment. A very high CPR% in conjunction with not displaying a tendency to handball before kick also bodes well for him.
H Greenwood:
Career SC Avg: 85.42 from 48 (18/48 below 80, 36/48 below 100, 2/48 120+)
2017 SC Avg: 84.58 from 12
2018 SC Avg: 85.95 from 22
2019 SC Avg: 85.29 from 14
Career Tackles Avg: 6.58
SC avg when tackles equal/exceed 7: 95.04 from 24 (low of 70 and a high of 127, 4/24 below 80, 16/24 below 100, 1/24 120+)
SC avg when tackles below 7: 75.79 from 24 (low of 45 and a high of 133, 14/24 below 80, 20/24 below 100, 1/24 120+)
Career Contested Possessions Avg: 11.38
SC avg when contested possessions equal/exceed 12: 99.62 from 21 (low of 68 and a high of 133, 2/21 below 80, 12/21 below 100, 2/21 120+)
SC avg when contested possessions below 12: 74.37 from 27 (low of 45 and a high of 104, 14/24 below 80, 24/27 below 100, 0/27 120+)
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