Opinion 2020: Super Early Player Discussions

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Looking at the byes and I note the shortage of premium mids with a rd 12 bye. Of the top 10 by ave in 2019 only Neale is listed. I base this on Danger being a mid/fwd and if so every one having him fwd. Might make backfilling prior to rd 13 with rd 12 players interesting. In the next 10 there is 4 rd 12 bye players but it will be hard to predict if they would be considered prime trade in targets. These players are Yeo, Gaff, Zorko and Zerrett.

Same applies in the backline. Only two rd 12 bye players in the top 10 they being Hurn and Stewart. I rate Stewart but think Hurn had a spike season and would not surprise me if he drops 15 pts or soon this year.

The forward line looks line offering a few more options in the top 10 and the second 10.

I know lots of players move around in terms of the top 10 by ave for their position from season to season but it will be interesting to see what rd 12 players emerge in 2020 as upgrade targets as the season heads towards the byes.
 
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Tom Mitchell reporting he really struggled with his broken leg injury in an interview. Then on getting back into contact training

“When you’re out for so long it’s quite difficult at times. But I feel quite motivated now after such an extended break and hopefully that can help me attack this pre-season.

“When I’m out in full-training again and trying not to think about the incident and getting into games and hitting bodies and colliding with people – that’s a hurdle I’ll have to overcome.

“I’ll have to confront it eventually. I’ll have to speak to people about that when the time comes, but we’re not at that point yet.”

Sounds like it has been a long road for him. I'm sure he will come good but it might take a while to get back to his best.
 
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But there was no Tichell in 2019. Looks like being a good player but are the stats distorted by circumstance.
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Potentially Mitchell and Worpell both play high minutes together in the guts this season however there is definitely a risk that either one or both of them spends more time forward than in 2018 and 2019 respectively.
 
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So how about some ridiculously earlier mid price madness selection discussion for season 2020?

How about Bryce Gibbs as a mid stepping stone? Based on Erich's early pricing spreadsheet price (thanks Erich) of around $375k Gibbs is in the right price zone. The announcement by Adelaide that he will be changing roles to a half back flank one could see him easily scoring at 95 plus in quarterback type role. That would see him generate enough cash to be in upgrade land after 5-7 rounds and allow you to bring in a pre bye premium.

But what does it mean for someone like Laird. A great SC warrior for many seasons has his time come to an end?
 
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Manikato1 said:
So how about some ridiculously earlier mid price madness selection discussion for season 2020?

How about Bryce Gibbs as a mid stepping stone? Based on Erich's early pricing spreadsheet price (thanks Erich) of around $375k Gibbs is in the right price zone. The announcement by Adelaide that he will be changing roles to a half back flank one could see him easily scoring at 95 plus in quarterback type role. That would see him generate enough cash to be in upgrade land after 5-7 rounds and allow you to bring in a pre bye premium.

But what does it mean for someone like Laird. A great SC warrior for many seasons has his time come to an end?
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I'm not sure how much was confidence, but Gibbs at HB was just as bad the Crows end of season meltdown. Even worse was when he took kick outs. Hard pass.
 
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pizza safety said:
No to Gibbs and Beams as midpricers, but HELLO Callan
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C Ward:
Games played between 2011 to 2018: 171
Possible games played between 2011 to 2018: 176

Avg between the aforementioned period: 102.62 from 171 (32/171 below 80, 76/171 below 100, 41/171 120+)
2011: 89.09 from 22 (7/22 below 80, 16/22 below 100, 1/22 120+)
2012: 106.5 from 20 (3/20 below 80, 8/22 below 100, 5/20 120+)
2013: 97.33 from 21 (5/21 below 80, 12/21 below 100, 4/21 120+)
2014: 112.75 from 20 (3/20 below 80, 5/20 below 100, 11/20 120+)
2015: 106.36 from 22 (1/22 below 80, 8/22 below 100, 6/22 120+)
2016: 105.59 from 22 (4/22 below 80, 10/22 below 100, 7/22 120+)
2017: 99.73 from 22 (5/22 below 80, 10/22 below 100, 3/22 120+)
2018: 104.64 from 22 (4/22 below 80, 7/22 below 100, 4/22 120+)
 
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Consistent numbers in the past but coming back from a year off will he come back at that 100 to 105 range? If he comes back in the 95-100 range and his price is around $400k will make enough cash to be a successful pick? I even thought the Gibbs pick at $375 is pushing it a bit but I liked the quarter back roll till manyproblems comment.
 
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Spots said:
is this good for him or not?
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I'd say half back would suit his game at this stage of his career. SC wise as well.
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sweet... he was the steak knives in a trade I did in a keeper league mid season this year without knowing much about him... :)
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Has been playing in the backline for the past couple of years with limited/little time in the mids which has coincided with his decreasing SC average. If he receives a larger stint on the wing then he would be an enticing option due to his tendency to kick (and long) as well as being one of the only dependable and efficient ball users at the Power.
 
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