Opinion Rate My AFL SuperCoach Team
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Ive sat, read and researched for the last month, and have now created my first pre JLT team.
DEF: Houston, Docherty, Doedee, S. Hill, Starcevich, McLennan (Rivers, Gould)
MID: Macrae, Kelly, Cripps, Dunkley, Treloar, Oliver, Rowell , Pickett (McHenry, Robertson, Mead)
RUCK: Grundy, Naismith (Cameron)
FWD: Whitfield, Martin, Brayshaw, D. Smith, C. Jones, Cockatoo (Rankine, King)
Naismith doesn’t face GG until post byes, and 450k saved allows me to strengthen other areas. I don’t like many of the premo backs, the 2 im considering are Laird & Daniel. As a dogs fan, I rate Daniel from a supercoach role perspective but soft tissue injuries at his age and size aren’t ideal.
Im very surprised at Treloars ownership (8%), and think his post bye scoring last year is a sign of things to come, as his AF and SC scoring start to even out. I’m vary of Danger (with Rowsus’s old analysis in the back of my mine about dropoff after a certain age). Oliver has two taggers the first two rounds but even with last year’s drop he still developed in a few key areas stats wise and I think he’s a very low risk pick with big potential upside.
I had Brayshaw on my watchlist and then read the stats on his scoring when TOG is above 75% (91.8). All 4 of those games were post bye last year, and he’s improved his tank again it seems judging by Freo’s time trial. I can’t ignore Dev Smith at that price regardless of role, and I think 271k for Chayce Jones is a steal, hopefully doesn’t turn into last years Moore in terms of ownership.
Obviously there’s a lot of risk in this side with injury returners and speculatives but I’m happy to take these risks. Would love some thoughts.
DEF: Houston, Docherty, Doedee, S. Hill, Starcevich, McLennan (Rivers, Gould)
MID: Macrae, Kelly, Cripps, Dunkley, Treloar, Oliver, Rowell , Pickett (McHenry, Robertson, Mead)
RUCK: Grundy, Naismith (Cameron)
FWD: Whitfield, Martin, Brayshaw, D. Smith, C. Jones, Cockatoo (Rankine, King)
Naismith doesn’t face GG until post byes, and 450k saved allows me to strengthen other areas. I don’t like many of the premo backs, the 2 im considering are Laird & Daniel. As a dogs fan, I rate Daniel from a supercoach role perspective but soft tissue injuries at his age and size aren’t ideal.
Im very surprised at Treloars ownership (8%), and think his post bye scoring last year is a sign of things to come, as his AF and SC scoring start to even out. I’m vary of Danger (with Rowsus’s old analysis in the back of my mine about dropoff after a certain age). Oliver has two taggers the first two rounds but even with last year’s drop he still developed in a few key areas stats wise and I think he’s a very low risk pick with big potential upside.
I had Brayshaw on my watchlist and then read the stats on his scoring when TOG is above 75% (91.8). All 4 of those games were post bye last year, and he’s improved his tank again it seems judging by Freo’s time trial. I can’t ignore Dev Smith at that price regardless of role, and I think 271k for Chayce Jones is a steal, hopefully doesn’t turn into last years Moore in terms of ownership.
Obviously there’s a lot of risk in this side with injury returners and speculatives but I’m happy to take these risks. Would love some thoughts.
Good find. With Heppell and Zaha having massively interrupted preseasons tho, I reckon DSmith still will get plenty of CBAs. Not too surprising that he is doing drills with the fwdline as he will split some of his time there.
Even in DSmith’s year where he averaged 98, he still retained fwd eligibility the following year so wouldve spent at least 35%+ of his time up fwd. I reckon it’ll be a bit more of the same, although maybe if the split is more 50-50 he’ll average closer to 90-95. At the Giants, he averaged 90 with <35% mid time.
Even in DSmith’s year where he averaged 98, he still retained fwd eligibility the following year so wouldve spent at least 35%+ of his time up fwd. I reckon it’ll be a bit more of the same, although maybe if the split is more 50-50 he’ll average closer to 90-95. At the Giants, he averaged 90 with <35% mid time.
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He played 61% midfield and had that many tackles per game, I think that means it's only unsustainable if he doesn't get more mid time.
He's 4th in our mid rotations behind Shiel, Merrett and Heppel if fit. We missed his pressure at the contest immensely in the 2nd half of the year and if they have any idea what they're doing they'll use him a lot through the midfield.
He's 4th in our mid rotations behind Shiel, Merrett and Heppel if fit. We missed his pressure at the contest immensely in the 2nd half of the year and if they have any idea what they're doing they'll use him a lot through the midfield.
Even if Devon doesn't end up as a first pick midfielder he should still make some money with a couple of spike scores.
Do you know something about Chayce Jones we don't? And Cameron doesn't let you take any of Grundy's big VC scores. Comben at R3 and if Cameron plays rnd1 plonk him in the forward line.
Brayshaw is a risk but I like it.
Do you know something about Chayce Jones we don't? And Cameron doesn't let you take any of Grundy's big VC scores. Comben at R3 and if Cameron plays rnd1 plonk him in the forward line.
Brayshaw is a risk but I like it.
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Current pre JLT team
Sicily could easily become Dan Houston and Macrae could easily become JKelly if say I needed to get Dyl Roberton (probably at the expense of Stephen Hill)
NicNat is also a chance over Lycett but I consider him a risk who could leave you in a very tricky spot if he gets injured at his current price.
Everything changes if Gawn seems to be going ok.
Got some expensive rookies in at the moment, which should give me added flexibility for when I start moving parts.
Share your thoughts?
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Yeah I’m presuming that he’s fit and firing by round one and basing that off the fact he’s had his best preseason in 4 or 5 years according to him.
Outside of Zerrett we don’t have another midfielder who can consistently apply pressure except for Dylan Clarke and he’s a tagger we don’t get much else from and he’s slow (and on the fringe of our 22) Our midfield fell apart for contested football and pressure late in the year last year.
He also just got put in the leadership group today and won the b&f in 2018, so we clearly rate him.
He actually suffered from Achilles tendinitis throughout 2018 so there’s a chance his 61% mid time actually increases, even with Shiel in the side, remembering there’s no Myers anymore and he got a fair bit of centre bounce time as well.
Outside of Zerrett we don’t have another midfielder who can consistently apply pressure except for Dylan Clarke and he’s a tagger we don’t get much else from and he’s slow (and on the fringe of our 22) Our midfield fell apart for contested football and pressure late in the year last year.
He also just got put in the leadership group today and won the b&f in 2018, so we clearly rate him.
He actually suffered from Achilles tendinitis throughout 2018 so there’s a chance his 61% mid time actually increases, even with Shiel in the side, remembering there’s no Myers anymore and he got a fair bit of centre bounce time as well.
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Cheers, I like those picks, Wingard I'm iffy on, but he could be good if he has a good preseason.
Not 100% sure on Lycett due to a hard fixture to start the year but he's there for now. Ultimately I think if Gawn looks good in one preseason game I'll just have to get him. He's had a lot of issues with knees in the past so it will be interesting to see how slowly they re-integrate him. Ultimately you're not picking Gawn in the hope that he starts a bit slow and you can sideways trade/upgrade to him without having to pay too much money.
Love that you're on the Lynch train.
Dunkley averaged 127.9 in the 16 games from round 7 onwards following the permanent move to the midfield, so I kind of see him as more naturally underpriced than JKelly with less of an injury risk attached to him. But based purely on what he will score he's more of a risky pick as he's only scored at a really high level for one season (or one season and 6 games the year before). It's something I will have to think about though as JKelly has been a 115avg type player for 3 years straight and definitely has another level in him that is in the 125-130 range. I've looked at even turning Oliver into Kelly but I just feel like I'm getting an unnecessary amount of super expensive mids at that point.
I consider Danger and Cripps locks who won't move. Macrae is less of a lock for me purely based on price and his slower starts to the previous 2 seasons. I've managed to trade Macrae in and the perfect time the past two seasons, in round 7 of 2018 and round 8 of 2019.
Not 100% sure on Lycett due to a hard fixture to start the year but he's there for now. Ultimately I think if Gawn looks good in one preseason game I'll just have to get him. He's had a lot of issues with knees in the past so it will be interesting to see how slowly they re-integrate him. Ultimately you're not picking Gawn in the hope that he starts a bit slow and you can sideways trade/upgrade to him without having to pay too much money.
Love that you're on the Lynch train.
Dunkley averaged 127.9 in the 16 games from round 7 onwards following the permanent move to the midfield, so I kind of see him as more naturally underpriced than JKelly with less of an injury risk attached to him. But based purely on what he will score he's more of a risky pick as he's only scored at a really high level for one season (or one season and 6 games the year before). It's something I will have to think about though as JKelly has been a 115avg type player for 3 years straight and definitely has another level in him that is in the 125-130 range. I've looked at even turning Oliver into Kelly but I just feel like I'm getting an unnecessary amount of super expensive mids at that point.
I consider Danger and Cripps locks who won't move. Macrae is less of a lock for me purely based on price and his slower starts to the previous 2 seasons. I've managed to trade Macrae in and the perfect time the past two seasons, in round 7 of 2018 and round 8 of 2019.
Think it’s a good idea to have a setup for Gawn too. Macrae is super expensive and I don’t mind going in without him. I’ve actually never started with him in SC as much as I am a fan of his.
My Gawn in side follows suit with him being left out. Side looks a little bit weird as my last premium spot boils down to Oliver vs Whitfield and I’m having a bloody hard time splitting them. Whitfield leaves me 5 deep forward which usually I wouldn’t mind but we might get a couple of decent rookies in that line to start this year.
Laird, Sicily, Doc, Hill, Young - rookies
Kelly, Cripps, Dunkley, Danger, Rowell, Cockatoo - rookies
Grundy, Gawn, Comben
Whitfield, Martin, Heeney, Lynch, Smith, Brander - rookies
Leaves only 30 odd thousand flex money in the rookies which is probably a bit low.
My Gawn in side follows suit with him being left out. Side looks a little bit weird as my last premium spot boils down to Oliver vs Whitfield and I’m having a bloody hard time splitting them. Whitfield leaves me 5 deep forward which usually I wouldn’t mind but we might get a couple of decent rookies in that line to start this year.
Laird, Sicily, Doc, Hill, Young - rookies
Kelly, Cripps, Dunkley, Danger, Rowell, Cockatoo - rookies
Grundy, Gawn, Comben
Whitfield, Martin, Heeney, Lynch, Smith, Brander - rookies
Leaves only 30 odd thousand flex money in the rookies which is probably a bit low.
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Interesting about the slow starts for Macrae .... my take is that in both seasons they mucked around early on to their detriment with their midfield / forward line set ups trying to work out the best mix ...
Once they got it right (to me) they got going and for me that in both cases ended up being a primary game time combo of Macrae, Bont and Dunks in the midfield ...
Who knows what this year will bring ... guess we'll all know pretty quickly though !!
Once they got it right (to me) they got going and for me that in both cases ended up being a primary game time combo of Macrae, Bont and Dunks in the midfield ...
Who knows what this year will bring ... guess we'll all know pretty quickly though !!
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Yeah I think that was true in 2019, not as much in 2018 - but in that year his start wasn't really slow, he started where he left off in 2017 and then elevated his game to another level from week 7.
I plan on starting him and expect 120-125avg from him to start the year, I just reckon if you don't start him due to cash constraints and pick another top mid instead there's more evidence that he builds into being a really high scorer for a year than there is him starting as one.
I plan on starting him and expect 120-125avg from him to start the year, I just reckon if you don't start him due to cash constraints and pick another top mid instead there's more evidence that he builds into being a really high scorer for a year than there is him starting as one.
Agree ... I think in 2018 Bont and Dunks were used too much as forward options and then the penny finally dropped later in the season .... might have been due to injuries etc and making room / roles for other players ...
Similar in 2019 to me for the first 6 or so rounds until they found alternate forward options and went back to what was working again in the latter half of the previous year ... might just be my skewed memory though
Similar in 2019 to me for the first 6 or so rounds until they found alternate forward options and went back to what was working again in the latter half of the previous year ... might just be my skewed memory though
bored so thought I would make a team from the Top 20 draftees and fill in the blanks with the most expensive players in their positions
LLOYD , HOULI , HURN , Ash * , Mcasey , Young / Day , De Koning
MACRAE , NEALE , FYFE , Rowell , Anderson , D Stephens , Serong , Green / C Stephens , Kemp , Philp
GRUNDY , GAWN / Jackson
WHITFIELD * , WALTERS * , Henry * , Flanders * , Kropenyeri-Pickett , Bergman / Weightman , Georgiadis
$ 450 , 500.00 in the bank
Projected Round 1 Score 1711
Might try something similar in AFL Fantasy , a C & VC + 28 rookies.
LLOYD , HOULI , HURN , Ash * , Mcasey , Young / Day , De Koning
MACRAE , NEALE , FYFE , Rowell , Anderson , D Stephens , Serong , Green / C Stephens , Kemp , Philp
GRUNDY , GAWN / Jackson
WHITFIELD * , WALTERS * , Henry * , Flanders * , Kropenyeri-Pickett , Bergman / Weightman , Georgiadis
$ 450 , 500.00 in the bank
Projected Round 1 Score 1711
Might try something similar in AFL Fantasy , a C & VC + 28 rookies.
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