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Yeah, last year so I went for a trawl in the emails found a pretty final looking team...
Dusty+Heeney were somewhat unexpected troubles. Crouch+Rocky were my mid priced spends, both were uncomfortable at times, neither gave me the expected easy $100k I expected, although Crouch got there in the end, and I did cash Rocky in reasonably quickly before he hurt me too much. I had concerns over Grundy's foot/toe issue hence the Goldy pick. I thought he could mix it with the big boys, giving me $150k to spend elsewhere but it didn't work out right, his season start at circa 100 for the first 10 rounds was too slow, I sold him early for ROB who I put on field.
So yeah, like you I'm keen in locking in the big 3 up forward, trying for at least 4 uber premos in the mids (Dusty didn't turn out). I'll back Nic Nat to give me some cash I can use better than the difference between him and Gawn. Beyond Sicily I'm super nervous in defense. So depends how you cut it, but only 10-11 uber premos here too...thoughts on your team from last year in detail?
PS Oh Libba how could I forget you. Yes you also got cashed in post spike game. So yeah, now I remember. There were a lot of Mid priced options available last year. I eschewed the ones in defense and took what I thought were the best 3, Crouch, Rocky and Libba, which resulted in a stacked mid... and if constable hadn't rocked the early rounds I would have been in a very good position.
Dusty+Heeney were somewhat unexpected troubles. Crouch+Rocky were my mid priced spends, both were uncomfortable at times, neither gave me the expected easy $100k I expected, although Crouch got there in the end, and I did cash Rocky in reasonably quickly before he hurt me too much. I had concerns over Grundy's foot/toe issue hence the Goldy pick. I thought he could mix it with the big boys, giving me $150k to spend elsewhere but it didn't work out right, his season start at circa 100 for the first 10 rounds was too slow, I sold him early for ROB who I put on field.
So yeah, like you I'm keen in locking in the big 3 up forward, trying for at least 4 uber premos in the mids (Dusty didn't turn out). I'll back Nic Nat to give me some cash I can use better than the difference between him and Gawn. Beyond Sicily I'm super nervous in defense. So depends how you cut it, but only 10-11 uber premos here too...thoughts on your team from last year in detail?
PS Oh Libba how could I forget you. Yes you also got cashed in post spike game. So yeah, now I remember. There were a lot of Mid priced options available last year. I eschewed the ones in defense and took what I thought were the best 3, Crouch, Rocky and Libba, which resulted in a stacked mid... and if constable hadn't rocked the early rounds I would have been in a very good position.
Goodness, that'll take a whole autopsy.
Season 2018 I started six Mids, including Danger, who didn't play Round 1, and Zorko, who averaged 65 for the first six rounds.
So instead of spending 5*600 I'd do stuff like 4*600, 1*550, 1*500 in the mids and fill my side with speculative picks forward and back.
So in the pursuit of having 15 potential keepers, I was behind in point to point and I ended up having to trade most of them anyway.
Season 2018 I started six Mids, including Danger, who didn't play Round 1, and Zorko, who averaged 65 for the first six rounds.
So instead of spending 5*600 I'd do stuff like 4*600, 1*550, 1*500 in the mids and fill my side with speculative picks forward and back.
So in the pursuit of having 15 potential keepers, I was behind in point to point and I ended up having to trade most of them anyway.
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My concern with Hurn, other than age, and the Eagles inevitable drop off in form this year (kidding, kidding), is his scoring through the back half of last year. Round 11 through finals he went at a tick over 90, which I think is probably more in line with expectation and his career to this point in time. Rounds 1-10 he had 20+ kicks on 7 occasions but in the back half of the year (finals included) he only got to 20 kicks once (and that was bang on 20). Did something change? As someone mentioned, there was an injury cloud hanging over him towards the end of the season, so maybe that played a role? At 562k he just feels a bit overpriced for mine.
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My initial thought was that the team looks good, gone all the big dogs in the mids and spent large on the rooks which gives you lots of wriggle room.
But on closer inspection, how many of your starting players do you see as keepers? Are Dawson, Doedee and Roberton keepers in Def? Not talking about Hill as he's priced as a rookie
Are Lycett and RO'B keepers in Ruc? Or do you plan to upgrade?
Is Steven a keeper Fwd? Cockatoo I think you treat as Hill.
For me, I'm only seeing a possible 9 keepers, so you'll have to upgrade 13 players (which will cost 26 trades minimum) or miss out on the top scorers on each line, plus you might be limiting cash generation.
But on closer inspection, how many of your starting players do you see as keepers? Are Dawson, Doedee and Roberton keepers in Def? Not talking about Hill as he's priced as a rookie
Are Lycett and RO'B keepers in Ruc? Or do you plan to upgrade?
Is Steven a keeper Fwd? Cockatoo I think you treat as Hill.
For me, I'm only seeing a possible 9 keepers, so you'll have to upgrade 13 players (which will cost 26 trades minimum) or miss out on the top scorers on each line, plus you might be limiting cash generation.
It's not just that you're likely losing 50ppg in the rucks, it's also that even with that, you're losing another 20ppg in the forwards, and another 60 ppg in defence. That's 130ppg.
You sort of make it up in the midfield, I can easily see you getting 50ppg for each extra premium. So in the end, you're only 30ppg in the red.
But wheres someone who sacrifices 2 midfielders to fit Gawndy in can just upgrade a rookie to cut the negative POD out, you're going to be stuck with two players who, in all likelihood, will be 25 ppg worse than the best players on the line.
You're spending the Gawndy spare change on a plethora of mid-pricers. You might get value out of them, but I doubt any of them will be top 6 on their lines, so you're basically hamstringing your whole side just to get a short break in the midfield. If it works, you'll go okay for the first few weeks, but you'll fall behind when other sides upgrade to six midfielders with Gawndy whilst you're stuck with Lycett and O'Brien.
HOWEVER, if you believe that Gawndy will lose 20ppg each, gamble on a lineup like this.
I'd definitely combine Doedee and Roberton into Docherty. Don't personally advise 6 mids either, and personally think Fyfe is an atrocious starting pick, but that's personal preference - Fyfe has the quality.
You sort of make it up in the midfield, I can easily see you getting 50ppg for each extra premium. So in the end, you're only 30ppg in the red.
But wheres someone who sacrifices 2 midfielders to fit Gawndy in can just upgrade a rookie to cut the negative POD out, you're going to be stuck with two players who, in all likelihood, will be 25 ppg worse than the best players on the line.
You're spending the Gawndy spare change on a plethora of mid-pricers. You might get value out of them, but I doubt any of them will be top 6 on their lines, so you're basically hamstringing your whole side just to get a short break in the midfield. If it works, you'll go okay for the first few weeks, but you'll fall behind when other sides upgrade to six midfielders with Gawndy whilst you're stuck with Lycett and O'Brien.
HOWEVER, if you believe that Gawndy will lose 20ppg each, gamble on a lineup like this.
I'd definitely combine Doedee and Roberton into Docherty. Don't personally advise 6 mids either, and personally think Fyfe is an atrocious starting pick, but that's personal preference - Fyfe has the quality.
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I am seeing quite a few teams with 6 or 7 $600k+ players. It has me wondering how many of the 14 players available is too many? I guess then that also asks how many is not enough?
A common formula seems 2 rucks and a forward (Gawndy + Whitfield) + 3 or 4 mids. It has me thinking: Is Whitfield a must? Is Gawndy a must? Should we be starting the high end mids? What are the risks of not starting with the popular formula?
I guess it will all come back to where the rookies may appear?
Maybe it’s a question for @Rowsus thread, but too late now!
current ownership of the $600k+ players ...
Grundy 65%
Gawn 31%
Macrae 30%
Neale 27%
Fyfe 39%
Kelly 10%
Cripps 51%
Dunkley 17%
Mitchell 15%
Dangerfield 29%
Bontempelli 10%
Treloar 8%
Goldstein 2%
Whitfield 60%
A common formula seems 2 rucks and a forward (Gawndy + Whitfield) + 3 or 4 mids. It has me thinking: Is Whitfield a must? Is Gawndy a must? Should we be starting the high end mids? What are the risks of not starting with the popular formula?
I guess it will all come back to where the rookies may appear?
Maybe it’s a question for @Rowsus thread, but too late now!
current ownership of the $600k+ players ...
Grundy 65%
Gawn 31%
Macrae 30%
Neale 27%
Fyfe 39%
Kelly 10%
Cripps 51%
Dunkley 17%
Mitchell 15%
Dangerfield 29%
Bontempelli 10%
Treloar 8%
Goldstein 2%
Whitfield 60%
I am seeing quite a few teams with 6 or 7 $600k+ players. It has me wondering how many of the 14 players available is too many? I guess then that also asks how many is not enough?
A common formula seems 2 rucks and a forward (Gawndy + Whitfield) + 3 or 4 mids. It has me thinking: Is Whitfield a must? Is Gawndy a must? Should we be starting the high end mids? What are the risks of not starting with the popular formula?
I guess it will all come back to where the rookies may appear?
Maybe it’s a question for @Rowsus thread, but too late now!
current ownership of the $600k+ players ...
Grundy 65%
Gawn 31%
Macrae 30%
Neale 27%
Fyfe 39%
Kelly 10%
Cripps 51%
Dunkley 17%
Mitchell 15%
Dangerfield 29%
Bontempelli 10%
Treloar 8%
Goldstein 2%
Whitfield 60%
A common formula seems 2 rucks and a forward (Gawndy + Whitfield) + 3 or 4 mids. It has me thinking: Is Whitfield a must? Is Gawndy a must? Should we be starting the high end mids? What are the risks of not starting with the popular formula?
I guess it will all come back to where the rookies may appear?
Maybe it’s a question for @Rowsus thread, but too late now!
current ownership of the $600k+ players ...
Grundy 65%
Gawn 31%
Macrae 30%
Neale 27%
Fyfe 39%
Kelly 10%
Cripps 51%
Dunkley 17%
Mitchell 15%
Dangerfield 29%
Bontempelli 10%
Treloar 8%
Goldstein 2%
Whitfield 60%
I tried avoiding top priced premiums last year, and started poorly (it wasn't the only issue with my team though) - I will likely get at least one more into my team in the mids before R1.
It is a good question though. Not sure what the right answer is to be honest.
I am seeing quite a few teams with 6 or 7 $600k+ players. It has me wondering how many of the 14 players available is too many? I guess then that also asks how many is not enough?
A common formula seems 2 rucks and a forward (Gawndy + Whitfield) + 3 or 4 mids. It has me thinking: Is Whitfield a must? Is Gawndy a must? Should we be starting the high end mids? What are the risks of not starting with the popular formula?
I guess it will all come back to where the rookies may appear?
Maybe it’s a question for @Rowsus thread, but too late now!
current ownership of the $600k+ players ...
Grundy 65%
Gawn 31%
Macrae 30%
Neale 27%
Fyfe 39%
Kelly 10%
Cripps 51%
Dunkley 17%
Mitchell 15%
Dangerfield 29%
Bontempelli 10%
Treloar 8%
Goldstein 2%
Whitfield 60%
A common formula seems 2 rucks and a forward (Gawndy + Whitfield) + 3 or 4 mids. It has me thinking: Is Whitfield a must? Is Gawndy a must? Should we be starting the high end mids? What are the risks of not starting with the popular formula?
I guess it will all come back to where the rookies may appear?
Maybe it’s a question for @Rowsus thread, but too late now!
current ownership of the $600k+ players ...
Grundy 65%
Gawn 31%
Macrae 30%
Neale 27%
Fyfe 39%
Kelly 10%
Cripps 51%
Dunkley 17%
Mitchell 15%
Dangerfield 29%
Bontempelli 10%
Treloar 8%
Goldstein 2%
Whitfield 60%
One season I tried a strategy of picking several 100-105 ave mids that I thought would either go up and be keepers or at worst hold their price and then I could easily trade up to the premiums that showed themselves to be the must haves that season. Failed miserably. I think the volatility of players scoring in that group makes it hard to find those kinds of players pre season. I don't think the strategy is flawed but it was just too hard to apply.
For the record my current team has 5 premium keepers and 4 of them are over 600k. I can find a reason to query just about every one of the players in the 500-600k bracket but I have no doubt several of them are going to have a big season. It is just hard to see that at the start of the year when you build your team.
I find Neale at 27% quite low.