Position Midfielder Discussion

Who are your likely 3 starters post Marsh 1...?

  • Macrae

    Votes: 74 69.2%
  • Neale

    Votes: 57 53.3%
  • Fyfe

    Votes: 21 19.6%
  • Kelly

    Votes: 26 24.3%
  • Cripps

    Votes: 58 54.2%
  • Dunkley

    Votes: 26 24.3%
  • Titch

    Votes: 20 18.7%
  • Danger

    Votes: 25 23.4%
  • Bont

    Votes: 25 23.4%
  • Oliver

    Votes: 35 32.7%

  • Total voters
    107

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Seriously think Libba needs to find another role ... seen it with McLean who never returned to his midfield role once he hurt his shoulder ...

Edit: did notice (I think) that Libba played the more forward line pressure lock down role though ...
I think you’re probably right ... seem to recall Libba even tagging at times last year.
 
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So if you don't start with Danger then what other options are you considering?
Right now I have him in my starting team and for some reason I'm trying to find valid reasons to NOT start with him.

Let's just say he has rubbish games in round 1 against GWS (maybe an SC score of 60-80) and round 3 (SC score of 90-100) against WCE, assuming he gets a decent score against GC (around 120), how much in price will he actually drop? $80k-90k? Will the idea then be to upgrade a rookie to him then?

I might be overthinking a bit but I reckon he's gonna finish in the top 8 midfield rankings by season's end so I just want to get him in now.
Then again I can easily be convinced otherwise lol :rolleyes::ROFLMAO:
If I decide to start Danger (or any other premium mids) from the start it would be with the view that they are season long keepers , certainly don't have enough trades to trade them out when they face the Giants , just hope over a season the good scores outweigh the bad.

Doubt he would drop enough dollars to be a viable trade in after 4-5 rounds , and would probably need 2 rookies going at 200+ to raise enough $$$.

Depending on where and how much the rookies are come Round 1 , I am hoping to start Bont , Cripps , Danger , Oliver & Whitfield + Rowell , ? & Pickett.

Hopefully then I can bring in the remaining 4 out of Macrae , Neale , Dunkley , Titch , BBQ , X , Y , Z etc etc

Besides who knows with taggers they might get a "accidentally" elbow to the ear or something early in the game
 
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Ok I’m done with this thread as I now have zero mid premiums I’m happy with :mad:
why start any then ?

lock in Grundy & Gawn each round as VC/C options , stack your defence & forward lines and try :-

Sier , Rowell , Anderson , Bonar , Ash , Caldwell , Stephens , Pickett for example

Ruck = $ 1.4 million
Rookie Mids = S 1.6 million
Bench = S 1.0 million

$ 6 million for 12 backs/forwards

pick off the mids during the bye rounds

winner winner chicken dinner
 

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Don’t mean to double spook you but the Cats have the Giants (De Boer) round 1 and the Eagles (Hutchings) round 3 so Danger could cop the hard tag twice in the first three rounds.
If you think he’ll average 115-120 over the course of the season, R1 doesn’t matter too much. Will only affect one price rise anyway.

IIRC Hutchings doesn’t always tag and didn’t tag Danger in their last two encounters. His 94 in the H&A season was a 138DT so he must’ve just butchered the ball.

GC R2 as well. I think Danger is still OK to start presuming no injuries and has a pure mid role.
 
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why start any then ?

lock in Grundy & Gawn each round as VC/C options , stack your defence & forward lines and try :-

Sier , Rowell , Anderson , Bonar , Ash , Caldwell , Stephens , Pickett for example

Ruck = $ 1.4 million
Rookie Mids = S 1.6 million
Bench = S 1.0 million

$ 6 million for 12 backs/forwards

pick off the mids during the bye rounds

winner winner chicken dinner
just substituted Hill & Young and came up with this quickly

Laird , Rich , Sicily , Houston * , Docherty , Young + 2

Bont , Oliver , Sier , Rowell , Anderson , Bonar * , Ash * , Pickett / McHenry , Mahony * , Rivers *

Grundy , Gawn / Comden *

Whitfield * , Martin * , Heeney * , Lynch , Smith * , Hill * / Rankine , King

$ 100.00

3-2-3
2-0-9
2-0-1
3-2-3

possibly 14 keepers , who says you need to load up in the mids ?
 
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If I decide to start Danger (or any other premium mids) from the start it would be with the view that they are season long keepers , certainly don't have enough trades to trade them out when they face the Giants , just hope over a season the good scores outweigh the bad.

Doubt he would drop enough dollars to be a viable trade in after 4-5 rounds , and would probably need 2 rookies going at 200+ to raise enough $$$.

Depending on where and how much the rookies are come Round 1 , I am hoping to start Bont , Cripps , Danger , Oliver & Whitfield + Rowell , ? & Pickett.

Hopefully then I can bring in the remaining 4 out of Macrae , Neale , Dunkley , Titch , BBQ , X , Y , Z etc etc

Besides who knows with taggers they might get a "accidentally" elbow to the ear or something early in the game
I keep seeing BBQ referred to, who exactly is that??
 
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just substituted Hill & Young and came up with this quickly

Laird , Rich , Sicily , Houston * , Docherty , Young + 2

Bont , Oliver , Sier , Rowell , Anderson , Bonar * , Ash * , Pickett / McHenry , Mahony * , Rivers *

Grundy , Gawn / Comden *

Whitfield * , Martin * , Heeney * , Lynch , Smith * , Hill * / Rankine , King

$ 100.00

3-2-3
2-0-9
2-0-1
3-2-3

possibly 14 keepers , who says you need to load up in the mids ?
Yeah but on the flip possibly 8 keepers
 
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Yeah but on the flip possibly 8 keepers
was a 5 minute exercise

surely Laird , Rich , Sicily , Bont , Oliver , Grundy , Gawn , Whitfield , Dusty , Heeney are keepers ? = 10

most picking Doc will assume he is a keeper so Houston , Lynch & Smith as if's.

given only Hill , Young , Rowell , Pickett & Rankine look the only Best 22 rookies at this stage , was just throwing it out there as a possible option if not going premium heavy in the mids.

EDIT

Rich - > $ 123,900.00 defender (will 3 be named)
Martin - > Cameron/Cavarra/Hosie/Sturt

then allows Sier & Ash to become a Danger & Treloar price range.
 
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Midfield is easy.

Macrae. Lock. Should be M1. Can't be tagged, the #1 Mid of the past couple of years.
Neale: Strongly consider. May regress due to more attention but has an elite basement which means he won't burn you too much even if he regresses to pre-2019 levels. Slight questions over the tag but even still averaged elite SC numbers. If you can't afford both Neale and Macrae, pick Macrae.
Fyfe: Ignore. Far too expensive for a man who has never played a full season. 2019 was a spike year, which sounds ridiculous for a player of Fyfe's caliber. If he was cheaper, he'd be relevant, but you're paying 120 for him. Far too expensive.
Jelly: Watchlist. If you want to take a gamble, Jelly is about 14k cheaper and younger than Fyfe. Only pick if he has an uninterrupted pre-season.
Cripps: Lock and Load. Usually starts off on fire so if you want him, start him.
Dunkley: Lock. M2 behind Macrae. Was the third highest averaging scorer in Supercoach behind Grundy and Gawn once he moved into the midfield. Could have a 130+ season in him.
Dangerfield: Strongly Consider. Absolute elite pedigree. Should get more midfield minutes with Kelly gone. Only question mark is age and the early difficult encounters with the tag.
Tom Mitchell: Wait.
We can't know how easy it will be to recover from an LTI. Let him ease into the season and see how he's going.
Bontempelli: Consider. We can't always have three players from the same team, and although Bont has an X Factor, he's the weakest SC prospect out of Macrae, Dunkley and himself.
Treloar: Pass. Priced at his likely maximum.
Oliver: Lock. Cheap as it gets. Averaged 109 despite a horrid season for the Demons and 2 Shoulder surgeries. Could easily replicate a 114 average or go better. Tags come early but probably too early to jump on.

4-5 mids is the typical system. Depending on other lines, you might ignore Clarry because you feel he goes up to 115. Just start Macrae, Dunkley, Cripps, and add 1-2 of Neale, Jelly, Dangerfield and Oliver. If you're really brave, consider Bont.
 
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Midfield is easy.

Macrae. Lock. Should be M1. Can't be tagged, the #1 Mid of the past couple of years.
Neale: Strongly consider. May regress due to more attention but has an elite basement which means he won't burn you too much even if he regresses to pre-2019 levels. Slight questions over the tag but even still averaged elite SC numbers. If you can't afford both Neale and Macrae, pick Macrae.
Fyfe: Ignore. Far too expensive for a man who has never played a full season. 2019 was a spike year, which sounds ridiculous for a player of Fyfe's caliber. If he was cheaper, he'd be relevant, but you're paying 120 for him. Far too expensive.
Jelly: Watchlist. If you want to take a gamble, Jelly is about 14k cheaper and younger than Fyfe. Only pick if he has an uninterrupted pre-season.
Cripps: Lock and Load. Usually starts off on fire so if you want him, start him.
Dunkley: Lock. M2 behind Macrae. Was the third highest averaging scorer in Supercoach behind Grundy and Gawn once he moved into the midfield. Could have a 130+ season in him.
Dangerfield: Strongly Consider. Absolute elite pedigree. Should get more midfield minutes with Kelly gone. Only question mark is age and the early difficult encounters with the tag.
Tom Mitchell: Wait.
We can't know how easy it will be to recover from an LTI. Let him ease into the season and see how he's going.
Bontempelli: Consider. We can't always have three players from the same team, and although Bont has an X Factor, he's the weakest SC prospect out of Macrae, Dunkley and himself.
Treloar: Pass. Priced at his likely maximum.
Oliver: Lock. Cheap as it gets. Averaged 109 despite a horrid season for the Demons and 2 Shoulder surgeries. Could easily replicate a 114 average or go better. Tags come early but probably too early to jump on.

4-5 mids is the typical system. Depending on other lines, you might ignore Clarry because you feel he goes up to 115. Just start Macrae, Dunkley, Cripps, and add 1-2 of Neale, Jelly, Dangerfield and Oliver. If you're really brave, consider Bont.
Like your views. Currently have macrae danger titch dunkley bont cripps.

Pick olivier up post tags or fyfe and neale post deflating.
 
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Like your views. Currently have macrae danger titch dunkley bont cripps.

Pick olivier up post tags or fyfe and neale post deflating.
The rest of your team must be filled with rookies who aren't going to play! No way you can spend that much in the mid and not compromise the rest of your team.
 
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Midfield is easy.

Macrae. Lock. Should be M1. Can't be tagged, the #1 Mid of the past couple of years.
Neale: Strongly consider. May regress due to more attention but has an elite basement which means he won't burn you too much even if he regresses to pre-2019 levels. Slight questions over the tag but even still averaged elite SC numbers. If you can't afford both Neale and Macrae, pick Macrae.
Fyfe: Ignore. Far too expensive for a man who has never played a full season. 2019 was a spike year, which sounds ridiculous for a player of Fyfe's caliber. If he was cheaper, he'd be relevant, but you're paying 120 for him. Far too expensive.
Jelly: Watchlist. If you want to take a gamble, Jelly is about 14k cheaper and younger than Fyfe. Only pick if he has an uninterrupted pre-season.
Cripps: Lock and Load. Usually starts off on fire so if you want him, start him.
Dunkley: Lock. M2 behind Macrae. Was the third highest averaging scorer in Supercoach behind Grundy and Gawn once he moved into the midfield. Could have a 130+ season in him.
Dangerfield: Strongly Consider. Absolute elite pedigree. Should get more midfield minutes with Kelly gone. Only question mark is age and the early difficult encounters with the tag.
Tom Mitchell: Wait.
We can't know how easy it will be to recover from an LTI. Let him ease into the season and see how he's going.
Bontempelli: Consider. We can't always have three players from the same team, and although Bont has an X Factor, he's the weakest SC prospect out of Macrae, Dunkley and himself.
Treloar: Pass. Priced at his likely maximum.
Oliver: Lock. Cheap as it gets. Averaged 109 despite a horrid season for the Demons and 2 Shoulder surgeries. Could easily replicate a 114 average or go better. Tags come early but probably too early to jump on.

4-5 mids is the typical system. Depending on other lines, you might ignore Clarry because you feel he goes up to 115. Just start Macrae, Dunkley, Cripps, and add 1-2 of Neale, Jelly, Dangerfield and Oliver. If you're really brave, consider Bont.
Good post. Broadly agree. I've usually been one to start Fyfe no question, but haven't even considered him this year.

Only one I'd really disagree on is Treloar, who is in my side. I quite like those players who seem to score at the lower end of their potential range - as there is plenty of upside if they can fix their issues. Look at Dusty, who went 22/105 and 22/108 in 2015-16 - most said that is his limit, because of poor footskills... flash forward a year, and he's the game's dominant player (and ironically, his DE didn't really improve, he added >1 goal and >1 clearance per game). It wouldn't shock me if Treloar sees a 5-10 pt bump with an improvement of his DE. When you average 34 touches a game, there's plenty of opportunity to lift the scoring.
 
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