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Some nice looking team's coming along.
No doubt this weekend will shake em up a bit.

This is the most balanced side ive done in a while.
A 6 premo mid still not out of the question for me

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so since I have no idea how to play this game , let's go back to basics

and yes I have read countless posts on here and other sites

ok so the conventional (safe) way is to start with GnR's

I need a C/VC which I am going to calculate at $ 700,000.00 x 2 = $ 1,400,000.00

My bench is going to be $ 125,000.00 x 8 = $ 1,000,000.00 ( and yes their may well be bench players available cheaper than $ 123,900.00)

I want at least 4 premium mids at $ 625,00.00 = $ 2,500,000.00 ( yes we could argue that we can get some cheaper).

I want to have 8 onfield rookies (many will say that is too many to start) , for the sake of this I am allowing $ 200,000.00 for each player = $ 1,600,000.00.

For this purpose I have used the 2019 Draft so Rowell , Anderson , Ash , D Stephens , Mcasey , Young , Henry & Flanders) = $ 1,491,900.00

As to whether these or any other rookies will play Round 1 , none of us know unless we are involved or connected to a club and their selection committee.

I have now allocated $ 6,500,000.00 and need 4 premium defenders and forwards at a average cost of $ 437,500.00 ?

In my mind I rate a premium defender and forward to average 90 (perhaps too low).

Salem averaged 90.5 last season and costs $ 491,200.00.......we have a problem.

Ziebell averaged 90.9 last season costs $ 493,400.00......we have another problem

So

4 x $ 437,500.00 Defenders = $ 1,750,000.00

let's add another rookie on field , so the next defender drafted was Day at $ 153,300.00 so I now have $ 1,596,000.00 for 3 Premium defenders.

Williams , Laird , Sicily cost $ 1,587,000.00.

4 x $ 437,500.00 Forwards = $ 1,750,000.00

let's add another rookie on field , so the next forward drafted was Kropenyeri-Pickett at $ 157,800.00 so I now have $ 1,592,200.00 for 3 Premium Forwards.

Martin , Ablett & Heeney cost $ 1,573,200.00

so my conventional GnR is set

Williams , Laird , Sicily
4 Premium Mids @ $ 625,000.00
Grundy , Gawn
D Martin , Ablett , Heeney

= 12 premium mids + 10 onfield rookies

given we have no idea of who the rookies are and how well they will score and their job security can these team be competitive enough ?

but 10 onfield rookies that can't work either , but it has too with GnR approach

or do we look at midpricers (or are they underpriced) to eliminate all these onfield rookies ?

people like Docherty , Franklin , Gibbs , Hannebery , Lynch , McDonald , Smith , Steven etc etc are all underpriced and have achieved 90+ season's before

but they are midpricers , but they can't work.

but then if we don't have 18 viable rookies named Round 1 what will I do if I can't start a GnR team ?

After all I don't know how to play this game , maybe we need a balance of premiums , rookies & mid pricers to get the balance right from the start.

PS

and yes I haven't factored in the "loose change" saved.

Cheers
so based on my my mathematical approach my side is

WILLIAMS , LAIRD , SICILY , McAsey , Young , Day / Ling , McLennan

MITCHELL , DANGERFIELD , BONTEMPELLI , TRELOAR , Rowell , Anderson , Ash * , D Stephens / Collier-Dawkins , McHenry , O'Halloran

GRUNDY , GAWN / Jackson

D MARTIN * , ABLETT , HEENEY * , Henry * , Flanders * , Kropenyeri-Pickett / Rankine , E Smith *

$ 73,000.00 in the Bank for adjustments

3-0-5
4-0-7
2-0-1
3-0-5 = 12-0-18

will be back after the JLT matches , have fun
 
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so based on my my mathematical approach my side is

WILLIAMS , LAIRD , SICILY , McAsey , Young , Day / Ling , McLennan

MITCHELL , DANGERFIELD , BONTEMPELLI , TRELOAR , Rowell , Anderson , Ash * , D Stephens / Collier-Dawkins , McHenry , O'Halloran

GRUNDY , GAWN / Jackson

D MARTIN * , ABLETT , HEENEY * , Henry * , Flanders * , Kropenyeri-Pickett / Rankine , E Smith *

$ 73,000.00 in the Bank for adjustments

3-0-5
4-0-7
2-0-1
3-0-5 = 12-0-18

will be back after the JLT matches , have fun
Not a bad base to start with. If cheaper rookies present themselves then you can downgrade/upgrade some of the expensive rookies.
 
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I think it was discussed a bit yesterday but geez teams look better with only 4 mid premiums.

It feels a lot better pushing Doc to D4 but I’m a little bit worried about upgrading 4 mids as we could have potentially 6+ mids going at 120+ this season
I echo this with too many gun mids going big, I believe 5 is minimum to start.

Hopefully cheaper rookies present to help us start 5 uber mids.
 
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Some nice looking team's coming along.
No doubt this weekend will shake em up a bit.

This is the most balanced side ive done in a while.
A 6 premo mid still not out of the question for me

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Nice looking team, I'm also going with 5 premium mids as it's so hard to split them.
Having two fwd rookies on the field could be a little risky, as this line would be the most unpredictable in teams of scoring.
Personally not sold on Greenwood, although he'll get the midfield minutes, I'm not sure GC will get enough of the ball for him to average above 80-85. Until GC show they have players regularly pumping out 100s, I'm staying away from their premium players.
 
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Thought I would put up my pre-JLT team to compare it to my team after opinions are appreciated
Solid team and very similar to mine, back line is bang on.
I also have gone with C Daniel, think he's an astute pick and will get lots of +6s running it out of the dogs' backline.
Rookies will present themselves, however maybe try opening up the MID/FWD DPP with a rookie like Flanders in the mids.
Only risk is a lot of forward rookies playing - may want to have Hill in the forward line instead to o***et that risk, and additionally open up the DPP link between him and Brander.
 
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It’s obviously semantics but I don’t really with that – if anything Sier is more of an expensive rookie. The reason I say that, is that in order to make a justifiable amount of $$ to start him, Steven would be averaging 90-95, i.e. forward keeper level, so you’d keep him (theoretically, given his pedigree as a high scorer). Whereas if Sier goes at 90-95 and reaches $400 - $450k, you’re binning him as soon as the opportunity presents itself to a discounted Mid premium. Hence the grey area on the guys priced $300k - $400k

For what it’s worth, Steven has been in and out for me. I have a bad habit as a coach of being swayed by good (or bad) experiences of owning players previously. I had Steven in 2015(?) as mid, when he was priced at around 80 – and traded him out before his bye when he was averaging over 110. So that history says to me he’s an absolute no brainer as a forward eligible player at a team where the mids are disappearing by the week. That being said, I’ve been scared by the injuries and his description of the role – and he’s currently out. He might come back in, but I think D Smith is the better option.
I think we're making a similar point. All I meant to argue was that 'midpricer' is an ambiguous term and people use it to mean different things, from expensive cash cows to discounted keepers and everything in between. I think you're saying that you consider a midpricer to be someone who, if they score well enough to make the money needed to be considered a good pick, will be on the periphery of being a keeper. I think that's a fair definition of a midpricer, but I don't think it's what everyone means when they use the term.

Steven is a tricky one. It's hard to imagine him really flying out of the blocks and punishing non-owners, so it may well not be worth risking him. But if it looks like he's fit enough for a bit of mid time from the start, I think it's possible he can be a 'good enough' pick early and then ramp up his midfield minutes to become a proper premo. Like all of these types, I wouldn't pick him if I didn't think there was at least a small chance of him becoming a top keeper, even if that's not the only way he can be a useful pick.
 
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Here is mine currently before the pre-season matches start

Most fluid spot has been F3 - it's between Rozee, Wingard, Steven at the moment. 2 DPP links will hopefully help during the season.
I'm content that I'm managed to limit rookies on the field to 2 in defence, 3 in the mids and 1 in the fwds (unless you count Hill as a rookie), albeit at the sacrifice of having NicNat over Gawn. 1582166571910.png
 
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Thought I would put up my pre-JLT team to compare it to my team after opinions are appreciated
If Gawn doesn't look like a viable option this is probably something similar to what I'd go in with. I like ROB as an option, just don't have the ballz. Good team though, the extra coin from not having Gawn does give good balance with a 5 prem midfield.
 
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Not a bad base to start with. If cheaper rookies present themselves then you can downgrade/upgrade some of the expensive rookies.
Cheers for that.

Jackson will likely become Meek , Cameron , Comben , Xerri depending on Round 1 teams.

Anderson , Ash , McAsey , Young , Stephens , Day will become Pickett (if named).

I won't start Williams due to the Coniglio , Kelly , Williams , Whitfield factor admittedly a small sample size.

Prefer to wait on D Martin , so will think about that one as well.

Ideally I would like 1 of Macrae/Neale/Fyfe/Cripps to start but a 2-5-2-2 with 19 rookies might be a tad too optimistic.

Anyway a hell of a lot could happen in the next 28 days , fingers crossed their is not another Tony Hall incident in the SOG.
 
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Getting more settled and working a few options.
Got a Gawn team I like with 5 premo mids, Smith F4, Doc D3, Hill D4.
Got a no Gawn, go crazy team with Oliver M6, Pittonet/Naismith R2 :eek:, Ceglar forward as an each-way bet. M6 as a rookie insteas pushes Doc to D4 which looks more solid though :unsure:.
 
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Ceglar the sleeping giant not in many fwd lines
Definitely being talked about, concerns being Clarko magnet moving in round 3 if it’s not working. Also on his scoring ability as a no.1 ruck - has the worst HTA% of the top 25 rucks.

I like the pick but a couple things to think about there. See how he goes tonight.
 
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Here is mine currently before the pre-season matches start

Most fluid spot has been F3 - it's between Rozee, Wingard, Steven at the moment. 2 DPP links will hopefully help during the season.
I'm content that I'm managed to limit rookies on the field to 2 in defence, 3 in the mids and 1 in the fwds (unless you count Hill as a rookie), albeit at the sacrifice of having NicNat over Gawn. View attachment 15704
Love the Cogs pick mate, easily the best of 550ish options IMO. The No Gawn approach has been discussed to death so there’s no point touching on it again here. Solid side going into the JLT.
 

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Here is mine currently before the pre-season matches start

Most fluid spot has been F3 - it's between Rozee, Wingard, Steven at the moment. 2 DPP links will hopefully help during the season.
I'm content that I'm managed to limit rookies on the field to 2 in defence, 3 in the mids and 1 in the fwds (unless you count Hill as a rookie), albeit at the sacrifice of having NicNat over Gawn. View attachment 15704
Welcome aboard @Meltingpot38, and good on you for providing comments on a couple of other teams first up ?

I like your side and can see solid reasons for most of the areas where our sides differ. In light of that, just a few thoughts that come to mind:

- Personally, whenever I hear someone say that they have X potential keepers/only Y rookies on field, it makes me think that they have probably loaded up on mid pricers, and/or gone for some compromised premium picks. The extent can obviously vary, but given we all have the same budget, typically this is the trade off that everyone faces. In your side, the ones I’d be a bit unsure about are NN (injury and TOG), Wingard (lowish ceiling, doesn’t seem to have kicked on as a SC player) and Coniglio (personally I’m not seeing the appeal with a best year of 21 @ 108 and heaps of appealing mid options available, but some good judges disagree). If you could get one or more of those to a slightly more solid pick, I think that would be beneficial.

- I think you have fairly significant game count/returning injury player risk in aggregate, with names like Doc, Doedee, Fyfe, Cogs, NicNat, Wingard, Smith, Hill and arguably Whitfield. Many of those names are obviously discounted, but personally I think trimming some of the aggregate injury risk could save some headaches!

- No Macrae is an interesting POD (while I suspect he’s at <50% ownership, I feel like he’s very well owned around here). What’s your thinking there?
 
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This is how I'm sitting prior to preseason games. Would appreciate any feedback. While there are a few in here that haven't been super durable in the past year or two I'm placing a higher priority on durability this year.
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Don't mind the 2 keeper defender line strategy. I'd probably rather Devon Smith over Jack Steven but good to see a left field team
 
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This is how I'm sitting prior to preseason games. Would appreciate any feedback. While there are a few in here that haven't been super durable in the past year or two I'm placing a higher priority on durability this year.
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But what has happened to The Human Meatball ?

Or it might have been another Tiger keen on him.
 
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Don't mind the 2 keeper defender line strategy. I'd probably rather Devon Smith over Jack Steven but good to see a left field team
Thanks for the feedback. Will obviously require rookies to get named down back but feels more comfortable to me than alternatives. Whoever shows more before round 1 out of Steven or Smith it shall be.
 
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