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Welcome aboard @Meltingpot38, and good on you for providing comments on a couple of other teams first up ?

I like your side and can see solid reasons for most of the areas where our sides differ. In light of that, just a few thoughts that come to mind:

- Personally, whenever I hear someone say that they have X potential keepers/only Y rookies on field, it makes me think that they have probably loaded up on mid pricers, and/or gone for some compromised premium picks. The extent can obviously vary, but given we all have the same budget, typically this is the trade off that everyone faces. In your side, the ones I’d be a bit unsure about are NN (injury and TOG), Wingard (lowish ceiling, doesn’t seem to have kicked on as a SC player) and Coniglio (personally I’m not seeing the appeal with a best year of 21 @ 108 and heaps of appealing mid options available, but some good judges disagree). If you could get one or more of those to a slightly more solid pick, I think that would be beneficial.

- I think you have fairly significant game count/returning injury player risk in aggregate, with names like Doc, Doedee, Fyfe, Cogs, NicNat, Wingard, Smith, Hill and arguably Whitfield. Many of those names are obviously discounted, but personally I think trimming some of the aggregate injury risk could save some headaches!

- No Macrae is an interesting POD (while I suspect he’s at <50% ownership, I feel like he’s very well owned around here). What’s your thinking there?
Thanks for the feeback.
Regarding Macrae, nothing huge against him other than his price, but my decision to omit is largely due to the greater chance this season (IMO) that more other mids that usual will go 110-120+. In the past he was more of a must have but I feel less so this year and see more upside in those $30k-$50k cheaper than him. I also like Dunks and didn't want to have both plus Caleb Daniel.

Agree with you on the risk factor, and will monitor that through the preseason matches, however as usual risk is where the value lies. How large the risk profile to take into season proper will be well shaped by the Marsh series, however some potential risks that i think are absolute locks are Smith, Fyfe, Cogs, Doedee, Doc and Whitfield.

I've done a team variation that allows Gawn at R2 and still have Cogs at M5, Doc at D3, and D Smith at F4 (albeit with cheaper rookie options) so will keep that in the back pocket as we enter the preseason.
 
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This is how I'm sitting prior to preseason games. Would appreciate any feedback. While there are a few in here that haven't been super durable in the past year or two I'm placing a higher priority on durability this year.
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Solid team - no Devon Smith seems a huge POD omission - is in leadership group and will play huge amounts of midfield minutes. one of my first chosen.
Read a quote from Horse than inferred Heeney would play more foward this year - pass for mine and leave as upgrade target when he has a few quiet forward games.
 
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Solid team - no Devon Smith seems a huge POD omission - is in leadership group and will play huge amounts of midfield minutes. one of my first chosen.
Read a quote from Horse than inferred Heeney would play more foward this year - pass for mine and leave as upgrade target when he has a few quiet forward games.
Cheers for the feedback.
I'm not completely sold on anyone at F4 yet, whether it be Steven, Smith or Lynch. If Smith looks to have that midfield position lined up through the preseason then it may be him, but as Rowsus pointed out in his thread Jack Steven has many seasons of high durability and consistent high averages.

I did read that quote about Heeney. Not overly concerned as he has generally spent a lot of time forward in the past and still scored well. I'm set on having 4 forwards, so if there was an option outside of Heeney that I was confident would finish top 8 forwards then I would also look at him as an upgrade.
 
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Here is mine currently before the pre-season matches start

Most fluid spot has been F3 - it's between Rozee, Wingard, Steven at the moment. 2 DPP links will hopefully help during the season.
I'm content that I'm managed to limit rookies on the field to 2 in defence, 3 in the mids and 1 in the fwds (unless you count Hill as a rookie), albeit at the sacrifice of having NicNat over Gawn. View attachment 15704
Nicely structured team! I was on board the Nic Nat train for a while but just felt too risky, especially given he will still be on reduced TOG.
I don't know much about Worrell's prospects of getting a game. Alternatively Brander from West Coast also has the Fwd/Def link and has been talked up a couple of times by teammates this preseason.
 
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From what I can gather, some of the better rookies going into the marsh series are some of the more expensive rookie defenders.
IF that proves to be true by the end of the marsh series and guys like J.Steven/Lynch look feasible up forward I would consider a starting structure like this one... Thoughts?

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From what I can gather, some of the better rookies going into the marsh series are some of the more expensive rookie defenders.
IF that proves to be true by the end of the marsh series and guys like J.Steven/Lynch look feasible up forward I would consider a starting structure like this one... Thoughts?

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what happens if 7 of your $ 117,300.00 or less players are not named ?

Haven't seen Sloane before , obviously you have your reasons , does 6 deep to start with limit you with only 2 spots to go ?

same as 5 forwards , without Heeney & Whitfield.

only my thoughts , still trying to learn how to play the game

I have looked at a 0-1-7 in defence though myself
 
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what happens if 7 of your $ 117,300.00 or less players are not named ?

Haven't seen Sloane before , obviously you have your reasons , does 6 deep to start with limit you with only 2 spots to go ?

same as 5 forwards , without Heeney & Whitfield.

only my thoughts , still trying to learn how to play the game

I have looked at a 0-1-7 in defence though myself
Sloane is there because of Adelaide's easy draw and his ability to go big when not tagged, I would most likely sideways him on his bye to another premo with a good back end, and push Lynch/Steven to F7 freeing up a mid spot and a fwd spot in the back half of the year after fully upgraded.

This teams main sacrifices are Rowel>Ash, Whitfield>Martin and a def premo & mid pricer for a fwd midpricer & mid premo, which i think are good trade o***.

And it's only 6 x 117k players as everyone has the ruck floating donut.
 
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Sloane is there because of Adelaide's easy draw and his ability to go big when not tagged, I would most likely sideways him on his bye to another premo with a good back end, and push Lynch/Steven to F7 freeing up a mid spot and a fwd spot in the back half of the year after fully upgraded.

This teams main sacrifices are Rowel>Ash, Whitfield>Martin and a def premo & mid pricer for a fwd midpricer & mid premo, which i think are good trade o***.
I tried that with Sloane a few seasons ago , twice......was going well until he fractured his cheek bone then a foot injury from memory , certainly not a bad idea at all.

Looks good if all those rookies are named.
 
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Sloane is there because of Adelaide's easy draw and his ability to go big when not tagged, I would most likely sideways him on his bye to another premo with a good back end, and push Lynch/Steven to F7 freeing up a mid spot and a fwd spot in the back half of the year after fully upgraded.

This teams main sacrifices are Rowel>Ash, Whitfield>Martin and a def premo & mid pricer for a fwd midpricer & mid premo, which i think are good trade o***.

And it's only 6 x 117k players as everyone has the ruck floating donut.
Xerri already making Herbies prediction come true :p
 
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Sloane is there because of Adelaide's easy draw and his ability to go big when not tagged, I would most likely sideways him on his bye to another premo with a good back end, and push Lynch/Steven to F7 freeing up a mid spot and a fwd spot in the back half of the year after fully upgraded.

This teams main sacrifices are Rowel>Ash, Whitfield>Martin and a def premo & mid pricer for a fwd midpricer & mid premo, which i think are good trade o***.

And it's only 6 x 117k players as everyone has the ruck floating donut.
3 in defence , 3 in the mids , 1 in the forward line = 7

didn't count Comben at all
 

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For me Steven is going to be a list clogger first half of the season, so I'd look to make a few rookie adjustments and get in Wingard with that extra cash...
Do you have Wingard in your side at the moment?

It looked like he got a lot of CBAs in the game this week, but his score didn’t seem overly compelling. Early days but mixed signs.

Do you expect him to get more midtime than last year?
 
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Do you have Wingard in your side at the moment?

It looked like he got a lot of CBAs in the game this week, but his score didn’t seem overly compelling. Early days but mixed signs.

Do you expect him to get more midtime than last year?
When he played full midtime at Power he scored 90-110. It was surprising that given his mid time as a whole went up last season, his scoring fell away. Notable his minutes dropped 20% last year below his average.

His score was ok the other night (for low TOG), although Hawks spread CBA's, between quite a few players.

Too many questions for me, needs exclusive mid time. Tom Mitchell back will take up some rotations and could impact his clearance work which was a strength of Wingard.
 
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Do you have Wingard in your side at the moment?

It looked like he got a lot of CBAs in the game this week, but his score didn’t seem overly compelling. Early days but mixed signs.

Do you expect him to get more midtime than last year?
Wingard only had 51% TOG and it was Rd 1 of the pre season so I wouldn’t read too much into his numbers. Having said that he is not in my side as I can’t see him averaging more than 90 this year even with mid time.
 
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Interesting that people would be seeing Wingard as the safer/better option than Steven.
On the one hand we have a 400k option that’s only ever gone 90plus season av twice in the last 5yrs with a best result of 97 back in 2015.
While the other at 360k has only fallen below 90 once in the last 5 years with a high of 104 also in 2015.
Steven has played the bulk of his career up to now in a ordinary team receiving very little support, having to fight for all his possessions with a tagger following his every step most weeks.Winning 4 B&Fs along the way, and now at Geelong potentially has the chance of a free run at the ball for the first time in many years.
Of course questions over Steven fitness both physically and mentally still need to be assessed, but all things being even I know who I’d rather be on
 
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Interesting that people would be seeing Wingard as the safer/better option than Steven.
On the one hand we have a 400k option that’s only ever gone 90plus season av twice in the last 5yrs with a best result of 97 back in 2015.
While the other at 360k has only fallen below 90 once in the last 5 years with a high of 104 also in 2015.
Steven has played the bulk of his career up to now in a ordinary team receiving very little support, having to fight for all his possessions with a tagger following his every step most weeks.Winning 4 B&Fs along the way, and now at Geelong potentially has the chance of a free run at the ball for the first time in many years.
Of course questions over Steven fitness both physically and mentally still need to be assessed, but all things being even I know who I’d rather be on
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Dusty, Wingard, Steven, Smith for me currently
 

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Thanks for the feeback.
Regarding Macrae, nothing huge against him other than his price, but my decision to omit is largely due to the greater chance this season (IMO) that more other mids that usual will go 110-120+. In the past he was more of a must have but I feel less so this year and see more upside in those $30k-$50k cheaper than him. I also like Dunks and didn't want to have both plus Caleb Daniel.

Agree with you on the risk factor, and will monitor that through the preseason matches, however as usual risk is where the value lies. How large the risk profile to take into season proper will be well shaped by the Marsh series, however some potential risks that i think are absolute locks are Smith, Fyfe, Cogs, Doedee, Doc and Whitfield.

I've done a team variation that allows Gawn at R2 and still have Cogs at M5, Doc at D3, and D Smith at F4 (albeit with cheaper rookie options) so will keep that in the back pocket as we enter the preseason.
That makes sense regarding Macrae. He seems a very popular name in the “locks” thread, but I agree that it looks a year where we could have more durable high scoring mids than normal.

I largely agree with you about risk and value, although I think it can depend somewhat on the nature of the risk. The way I think about it is that non-rookie players are priced based on last year’s average, in some cases with an adjustment if game count was particularly low in that year. So game count is factored in, but only in some cases, and only fairly extreme ones, whereas average is almost always reflected. That means that you largely get paid to take risks on a player who had a down year for averages, but don’t necessarily get paid to take game count risk (unless it was overly low last year). My view is that some players are also more durable than others, so whether you’re taking a large or small injury risk depends primarily on that, as well as the nature of the injury and how they have progressed in their recovery. As an example, I think someone like Steven, who has a good record of durability, would be a lower risk returning player all else equal than someone like Smith, who has struggled for game count (I currently have Smith and not Steven, because of some of the other differences).

You’re probably all over the newsflow, but it looks like there might have been some articles suggesting that Doedee (fitness) and Cogs (role) might be a bit less appealing than they were a week ago. I’ve actually switched Doedee out (again!) for Roberton as a result.

Best of luck.
 

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Thanks @GrainFedBeef, @_Slip_, @Snowman and @TopBillings, interesting comments re Wingard.

I was considering him as about my sixth favorite forward option, but feeling less than comfortable unless he looked great in the preseason games. I don’t know how fit he was last preseason, but you’d think if he was going to go well with more mid time, Mitchell being our last year was a time to shine.

Steven is back in the frame for me, and probably the type of player I’m normally drawn to, although I would probably be a bit more comfortable if it was just an injury issue and/or if he’d had an uninterrupted run this preseason.
 
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