Opinion Rate My AFL SuperCoach Team

[Bomber18]

Your point on Greenwood being a MID only based on 2018 is valid and he did have 74% time on ground that year. I'm arguing that he actually improved as a player last year considering he had less mid time and less time on ground and I'm using that season to project 2020. He might regress, which is definitely a concern.

Like I said though in 2019 that number was 52% midfield (I wrote the last post before I saw this response). I'll find the article where that is written. He is 27 and it's hard to trust a guy to improve at that age but he is relatively new to AFL after trying to be a basketballer, so its plausible that his skills are still improving. The aerobic capacity thing is definitely a concern, I'm hoping he can just get to above 75%. Based on how he played last year, I would say he definitely would have scored high 90's with 75% time midfield and 76% time on ground as he scored 85 with 52% midfield and 72% time on ground.

I'm not sure I agree with this point that if e.g. he played 75% mid time (rather than 52%) with 5% more TOG at the Crows last year he would've averaged 10+ more SC points. He averaged 86 SC in 2018 with similar figures. You could argue that he's an improved player to 2018, but generally I find that mature agers establish their scoring pattern more quickly and don't really progress beyond that (especially those who debut in their mid 20s). In his case, he's already 27 (turning 28 in March) and had 3 seasons of 85 scoring. Don't think I know of an example where a mature aged player at 27/28 had a breakout season to a high 90s/100 avg in similar circumstances.

He may well prove me wrong. I struggle with these Boak late career "spike" type picks.

 

[Tails]

I'm not sure I agree with this point that if e.g. he played 75% mid time (rather than 52%) with 5% more TOG at the Crows last year he would've averaged 10+ more SC points. He averaged 86 SC in 2018 with similar figures. You could argue that he's an improved player to 2018, but generally I find that mature agers establish their scoring pattern more quickly and don't really progress beyond that (especially those who debut in their mid 20s). In his case, he's already 27 (turning 28 in March) and had 3 seasons of 85 scoring. Don't think I know of an example where a mature aged player at 27/28 had a breakout season to a high 90s/100 avg in similar circumstances.

He may well prove me wrong. I struggle with these Boak late career "spike" type picks.

Sorry to intrude but Boak "sacrificed" a year forward from memory for the team cause .... another Hinkism ... back in where he has always belonged and well we all know what happened next ...

- albeit freed up from Captaincy duties
- would like to continue but think I need to exit here ...

 

[Bomber18]

Sorry to intrude but Boak "sacrificed" a year forward from memory for the team cause .... another Hinkism ... back in where he has always belonged and well we all know what happened next ...

- albeit freed up from Captaincy duties
- would like to continue but think I need to exit here ...

It was more the fact he had a career best year at the age of 31! I think it's also time for me to take a break from the RMT thread (I think the last page was all me )

 

[Tails]

It was more the fact he had a career best year at the age of 31! I think it's also time for me to take a break from the RMT thread (I think the last page was all me )

Been following your team ... so often you've tempted me to change mine ...

- Will just do the same as every year though .... got a short list of players and will just plug them in according to the salary cap ..
- Rookies looking pretty dire this year so far but still have a somewhat workable structure in place .... can't say I like it though !!

 

[pizza safety]

I'm not sure I agree with this point that if e.g. he played 75% mid time (rather than 52%) with 5% more TOG at the Crows last year he would've averaged 10+ more SC points. He averaged 86 SC in 2018 with similar figures. You could argue that he's an improved player to 2018, but generally I find that mature agers establish their scoring pattern more quickly and don't really progress beyond that (especially those who debut in their mid 20s). In his case, he's already 27 (turning 28 in March) and had 3 seasons of 85 scoring. Don't think I know of an example where a mature aged player at 27/28 had a breakout season to a high 90s/100 avg in similar circumstances.

He may well prove me wrong. I struggle with these Boak late career "spike" type picks.

I think he's definitely scoring high 90's if he's getting 75% mid time last year and 76% tog. I think he played better last year to still average 85 with 52% mid time, his game is built around clearances, contested possessions and tackles so he is definitely scoring a lot more points in the guts. Danger scored 134 points per every 100 mins in the midfield and 82 for every 100 mins forward, even if we say Greenwood scored 115 points for every 100 mins midfield and 75 for every 100 mins forward (overall for the year he still averaged .96 points per minute) he's still scoring .4 more points per extra minute in the midfield. He gets 22 extra minutes in the middle with 25% more time in the middle with him playing 88 minutes per game and that's worth about 8.8 points and then add in 5 for more time on ground.

I'm usually with you on the late career spikes but he only started playing AFL again in 2016 after trying to play basketball for several years. You can't compare him to a guy who played state leagues until he was 23 and then put up 3 or 4 consistent years of the same scores. He's newer to the game and has spoken a lot about how much he's developed since 2016.

We just don't have an example like him and I think there's context around him that differentiates him from a regular player you're hoping to breakout to high 90's at age 27.

I also started Boak last year because even though he was turning 31, he was coming off an 88 average with 24% mid time and was going to return to being a full time mid - I thought he would average 95 and in the end the result was a complete fluke.

 

[Tails]

I think he's definitely scoring high 90's if he's getting 75% mid time last year and 76% tog. I think he played better last year to still average 85 with 52% mid time, his game is built around clearances, contested possessions and tackles so he is definitely scoring a lot more points in the guts. Danger scored 134 points per every 100 mins in the midfield and 82 for every 100 mins forward, even if we say Greenwood scored 115 points for every 100 mins midfield and 75 for every 100 mins forward (overall for the year he still averaged .96 points per minute) he's still scoring .4 more points per extra minute in the midfield. He gets 22 extra minutes in the middle with 25% more time in the middle with him playing 88 minutes per game and that's worth about 8.8 points and then add in 5 for more time on ground.

I'm usually with you on the late career spikes but he only started playing AFL again in 2016 after trying to play basketball for several years. You can't compare him to a guy who played state leagues until he was 23 and then put up 3 or 4 consistent years of the same scores. He's newer to the game and has spoken a lot about how much he's developed since 2016.

We just don't have an example like him and I think there's context around him that differentiates him from a regular player you're hoping to breakout to high 90's at age 27.

I also started Boak last year because even though he was turning 31, he was coming off an 88 average with 24% mid time and was going to return to being a full time mid - I thought he would average 95 and in the end the result was a complete fluke.

I've looked this and can't make the numbers work .... I reckon he can ave around 80 - 90 once the real games start ...
- Might be good enough for a F7 some years but doubt it this year ,,,

 

[pizza safety]

I'm not sure I agree with this point that if e.g. he played 75% mid time (rather than 52%) with 5% more TOG at the Crows last year he would've averaged 10+ more SC points. He averaged 86 SC in 2018 with similar figures. You could argue that he's an improved player to 2018, but generally I find that mature agers establish their scoring pattern more quickly and don't really progress beyond that (especially those who debut in their mid 20s). In his case, he's already 27 (turning 28 in March) and had 3 seasons of 85 scoring. Don't think I know of an example where a mature aged player at 27/28 had a breakout season to a high 90s/100 avg in similar circumstances.

He may well prove me wrong. I struggle with these Boak late career "spike" type picks.

I should add that if I need any money for rookies I’m trading him down to Tom Lynch despite Lynch’s bad bye and the fact it might cost me a donut during the byes.

Wingard is another option who is slightly more expensive but I find it hard to trust him.
He has a slightly better bye.

If I need Roberton the plan is to get Lynch in for Greenwood and Dusty in for Whitfield or Zerrett in for JKelly.

He is an expendable part of my side.

 

[Cricket98]

Have happily resisted the urgue to change much after Marsh Week 1. Annoyed that Bont performed aswell as he did, as his ownership has now gone from 11% to 23%. 15 potential keepers, im pretty happy so far. Worried about the midfield rookies at this stage, think theres enough value in DEF and FWD to ensure not too many need to be on field.

 

[THCLT]

Agree .. have scope to start Tracca .... not sold yet but he is ticking the boxes I want to see .... role, fitness and contract year !!

Petracca just extended his contract for another 2 years.

 

[freowho]

Petracca just extended his contract for another 2 years.

Christian just rang me to say the local pub had a special all you can eat night and he was shouting!

 

[Tails]

Petracca just extended his contract for another 2 years.

Grrr ... had found a way to get him in too ,,,,

 

[THCLT]

Christian just rang me to say the local pub had a special all you can eat night and he was shouting!

Not at @OnTopBar by any chance...

 

[OnTopBar]

Not at @OnTopBar by any chance...

Ya'll gonna have to drop in before the 23/03, sold the old speak easy, and it's now to greener pastures for me.

 

[freowho]

Not at @OnTopBar by any chance...

As long as they have wifi, sport on many bigscreen tv's and all you can eat then who cares what the beer tastes like. Me and Christian are in.

 

[eno]

Petracca just extended his contract for another 2 years.

Get him out!!! Will be useless now

 

[THCLT]

Ya'll gonna have to drop in before the 23/03, sold the old speak easy, and it's now to greener pastures for me.

I do hope that the potential task of playing host to a bunch of SC fanatics wasn't the cause of that chain of event.

 

[Courtesans]

Not starting Gawn or Grundy for that matter, makes such a difference to team balance from what I have seen above, I am loathe to do it though. As a few have said, perhaps four premium mids, don’t like that either. Conundrum.

 

[OnTopBar]

I do hope that the potential task of playing host to a bunch of SC fanatics wasn't the cause of that chain of event.

Of course not, but I can see where your worry has come from......not mentioning names

 

[Manikato1]

Not starting Gawn or Grundy for that matter, makes such a difference to team balance from what I have seen above, I am loathe to do it though. As a few have said, perhaps four premium mids, don’t like that either. Conundrum.

The early draw, Collingwood playing early in the round games which makes him a super loop VC and Grundy's big ceiling make him one of the few must haves IMO.

 

[Lgndhen23]

Premium side for now (cant be bothered typing rookies)

Def: Williams, Sicily, Houston, POD
Mid: macrae, Neale, titch, treloar, sier
Ruck: grundy, Gawn
For: Whitfield, dusty, smith

Last year hurn and Walters as PODs brought me to 14th overall after round 5 so hope my pod this year and treloar who is low ownership can also pull something special