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Said he was concious of breaking the all time season accumulated SC points record and that was his number one focus for the year and driving motivation to be ready round 1, said he'll be putting the Captain on himself each week and he's laid $10,000 on himself to win the brownlow.
Read into that what you will.
Read into that what you will.
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I still reckon he’s got a decent ceiling based on his low disposal count - but expecting improvement at turning to age 27 isn’t always realistic. The counter argument is he’s only played midfield for two years and hasn’t had the full opportunity to showcase what he’s capable of yet - also last year after an interrupted preseason with a heel injury he went 113avg from rounds 6-23.
Tim Kelly also throws another spanner into the works but I think Yeo at least still has the potential to score more - the question is just whether he can accumulate more often. He also got tagged a few times and I don’t think that happens anymore. Tim K could definitely take clearances off him though, but there’s a chance he’s more freed up.
Zerrett is another I’m looking at but I question whether he can average 115 - he seems to have lost some of his ceiling as a player, but I don’t mind him and Cogs as cheaper picks to put at M5. There is a high level of stubbornness in this years midfields and whilst it’s warranted people forget how much these things tend to fluctuate.
Tim Kelly also throws another spanner into the works but I think Yeo at least still has the potential to score more - the question is just whether he can accumulate more often. He also got tagged a few times and I don’t think that happens anymore. Tim K could definitely take clearances off him though, but there’s a chance he’s more freed up.
Zerrett is another I’m looking at but I question whether he can average 115 - he seems to have lost some of his ceiling as a player, but I don’t mind him and Cogs as cheaper picks to put at M5. There is a high level of stubbornness in this years midfields and whilst it’s warranted people forget how much these things tend to fluctuate.
One thing I like about Z Merrett is that he is durable, only missed 1 game in the last 4 seasons and will be 25yo this year, so unlikely an injury risk.
I'm interested to hear your thoughts on McGrath, who will be full time midfielder this year. He's priced to score 74 SC pts. I like him as a player and thinking he may do well playing midfield, well enough to at least make $100K if he averages mid 90s.
The No1 draft pick is going to be 22yo this year, so I'm thinking this could be the year he starts scoring well, with his new role?
I'm interested to hear your thoughts on McGrath, who will be full time midfielder this year. He's priced to score 74 SC pts. I like him as a player and thinking he may do well playing midfield, well enough to at least make $100K if he averages mid 90s.
The No1 draft pick is going to be 22yo this year, so I'm thinking this could be the year he starts scoring well, with his new role?
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Yeah I think the idea is to turn McGrath into more of a centre bounce player this year and he has the potential to give us a level of x-factor out of the middle with his high level agility.
However, we run pretty deep through there without having many big bodied mids so it's hard for me to predict which of these inside mids are going to get substantial inside mid time as we have Zerrett, Shiel, Heppell, Parish, Dev, McGrath and Stringer (who just attends approx 25-35% CB's but doesn't play midfield) among others, so I cant trust how much inside mid time he will actually get, and that might affect his ceiling. Last year he played on the wing and whilst he was decent in this role as a junior he was a very good centre bounce midfielder.
I do expect for him to have something of a breakout this year but I don't tend to like the "pure breakout" picks and much prefer picking discounted premiums or players with role changes or young players with notable splits in their scoring. Not sure if he's going to go to that 100+ level or average mid 90's either.
However, we run pretty deep through there without having many big bodied mids so it's hard for me to predict which of these inside mids are going to get substantial inside mid time as we have Zerrett, Shiel, Heppell, Parish, Dev, McGrath and Stringer (who just attends approx 25-35% CB's but doesn't play midfield) among others, so I cant trust how much inside mid time he will actually get, and that might affect his ceiling. Last year he played on the wing and whilst he was decent in this role as a junior he was a very good centre bounce midfielder.
I do expect for him to have something of a breakout this year but I don't tend to like the "pure breakout" picks and much prefer picking discounted premiums or players with role changes or young players with notable splits in their scoring. Not sure if he's going to go to that 100+ level or average mid 90's either.
Thanks for your reply, lots to think about!
In a nutshell, we don't know what will happen in the future, so understandably unsure, like has McGrath got that x-factor that (I think) ESS needs in their midfield.
You mentioned that ESS runs pretty deep through the centre bounce, am I correct in thinking that none of the last year's midfielders were really good in there, so that is why McGrath has this new role
RE: ...…..Stringer (who just attends approx 25-35% CB's but doesn't play midfield)…... an example of why I don't think ESS have enough good Mids.
ESS said McGrath is set to move to full-time inside midfielder, they must have some confidence in him to do well in there, to make such a statement (can't remember where I read that, it's in my notes, hoping it is not the media sensationalising?)
Also my notes said that in previous years he didn't have a 'man's body', obviously he has now, to be thrown full time inside Mid.
I didn't see the Marsh games, but according to his SC scoring he did well in those games, so maybe he can hold down his new role all year.
Like with a lot of players, we can find heaps of good reasons to get excited to start a player, but all it takes is one, or two reasons, to not start a player. I'm looking for that one good reason not to take a chance on McGrath to be a worthwhile selection, either as a good upgrader, or a M8 Keeper.
In a nutshell, we don't know what will happen in the future, so understandably unsure, like has McGrath got that x-factor that (I think) ESS needs in their midfield.
You mentioned that ESS runs pretty deep through the centre bounce, am I correct in thinking that none of the last year's midfielders were really good in there, so that is why McGrath has this new role
RE: ...…..Stringer (who just attends approx 25-35% CB's but doesn't play midfield)…... an example of why I don't think ESS have enough good Mids.
ESS said McGrath is set to move to full-time inside midfielder, they must have some confidence in him to do well in there, to make such a statement (can't remember where I read that, it's in my notes, hoping it is not the media sensationalising?)
Also my notes said that in previous years he didn't have a 'man's body', obviously he has now, to be thrown full time inside Mid.
I didn't see the Marsh games, but according to his SC scoring he did well in those games, so maybe he can hold down his new role all year.
Like with a lot of players, we can find heaps of good reasons to get excited to start a player, but all it takes is one, or two reasons, to not start a player. I'm looking for that one good reason not to take a chance on McGrath to be a worthwhile selection, either as a good upgrader, or a M8 Keeper.
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Thanks for your reply, lots to think about!
In a nutshell, we don't know what will happen in the future, so understandably unsure, like has McGrath got that x-factor that (I think) ESS needs in their midfield.
You mentioned that ESS runs pretty deep through the centre bounce, am I correct in thinking that none of the last year's midfielders were really good in there, so that is why McGrath has this new role
RE: ...…..Stringer (who just attends approx 25-35% CB's but doesn't play midfield)…... an example of why I don't think ESS have enough good Mids.
ESS said McGrath is set to move to full-time inside midfielder, they must have some confidence in him to do well in there, to make such a statement (can't remember where I read that, it's in my notes, hoping it is not the media sensationalising?)
Also my notes said that in previous years he didn't have a 'man's body', obviously he has now, to be thrown full time inside Mid.
I didn't see the Marsh games, but according to his SC scoring he did well in those games, so maybe he can hold down his new role all year.
Like with a lot of players, we can find heaps of good reasons to get excited to start a player, but all it takes is one, or two reasons, to not start a player. I'm looking for that one good reason not to take a chance on McGrath to be a worthwhile selection, either as a good upgrader, or a M8 Keeper.
In a nutshell, we don't know what will happen in the future, so understandably unsure, like has McGrath got that x-factor that (I think) ESS needs in their midfield.
You mentioned that ESS runs pretty deep through the centre bounce, am I correct in thinking that none of the last year's midfielders were really good in there, so that is why McGrath has this new role
RE: ...…..Stringer (who just attends approx 25-35% CB's but doesn't play midfield)…... an example of why I don't think ESS have enough good Mids.
ESS said McGrath is set to move to full-time inside midfielder, they must have some confidence in him to do well in there, to make such a statement (can't remember where I read that, it's in my notes, hoping it is not the media sensationalising?)
Also my notes said that in previous years he didn't have a 'man's body', obviously he has now, to be thrown full time inside Mid.
I didn't see the Marsh games, but according to his SC scoring he did well in those games, so maybe he can hold down his new role all year.
Like with a lot of players, we can find heaps of good reasons to get excited to start a player, but all it takes is one, or two reasons, to not start a player. I'm looking for that one good reason not to take a chance on McGrath to be a worthwhile selection, either as a good upgrader, or a M8 Keeper.
Thanks for your reply, lots to think about!
In a nutshell, we don't know what will happen in the future, so understandably unsure, like has McGrath got that x-factor that (I think) ESS needs in their midfield.
You mentioned that ESS runs pretty deep through the centre bounce, am I correct in thinking that none of the last year's midfielders were really good in there, so that is why McGrath has this new role
RE: ...…..Stringer (who just attends approx 25-35% CB's but doesn't play midfield)…... an example of why I don't think ESS have enough good Mids.
ESS said McGrath is set to move to full-time inside midfielder, they must have some confidence in him to do well in there, to make such a statement (can't remember where I read that, it's in my notes, hoping it is not the media sensationalising?)
Also my notes said that in previous years he didn't have a 'man's body', obviously he has now, to be thrown full time inside Mid.
I didn't see the Marsh games, but according to his SC scoring he did well in those games, so maybe he can hold down his new role all year.
Like with a lot of players, we can find heaps of good reasons to get excited to start a player, but all it takes is one, or two reasons, to not start a player. I'm looking for that one good reason not to take a chance on McGrath to be a worthwhile selection, either as a good upgrader, or a M8 Keeper.
In a nutshell, we don't know what will happen in the future, so understandably unsure, like has McGrath got that x-factor that (I think) ESS needs in their midfield.
You mentioned that ESS runs pretty deep through the centre bounce, am I correct in thinking that none of the last year's midfielders were really good in there, so that is why McGrath has this new role
RE: ...…..Stringer (who just attends approx 25-35% CB's but doesn't play midfield)…... an example of why I don't think ESS have enough good Mids.
ESS said McGrath is set to move to full-time inside midfielder, they must have some confidence in him to do well in there, to make such a statement (can't remember where I read that, it's in my notes, hoping it is not the media sensationalising?)
Also my notes said that in previous years he didn't have a 'man's body', obviously he has now, to be thrown full time inside Mid.
I didn't see the Marsh games, but according to his SC scoring he did well in those games, so maybe he can hold down his new role all year.
Like with a lot of players, we can find heaps of good reasons to get excited to start a player, but all it takes is one, or two reasons, to not start a player. I'm looking for that one good reason not to take a chance on McGrath to be a worthwhile selection, either as a good upgrader, or a M8 Keeper.
- Mitchell out so Worpel got the gig ... finished well but took a while to get going ...
- Doggies finally decided that Dunks is a midfielder ..... finished well but took a while for the coaching move to eventuate and almost blew their season in the process of delaying it ,...
- Possibly others that I've missed but I guess Hepp's will be out for a while so is he just a stop gap solution and does he have the tank to sustain it in that role ...
Thanks for your reply, lots to think about!
In a nutshell, we don't know what will happen in the future, so understandably unsure, like has McGrath got that x-factor that (I think) ESS needs in their midfield.
You mentioned that ESS runs pretty deep through the centre bounce, am I correct in thinking that none of the last year's midfielders were really good in there, so that is why McGrath has this new role
RE: ...…..Stringer (who just attends approx 25-35% CB's but doesn't play midfield)…... an example of why I don't think ESS have enough good Mids.
ESS said McGrath is set to move to full-time inside midfielder, they must have some confidence in him to do well in there, to make such a statement (can't remember where I read that, it's in my notes, hoping it is not the media sensationalising?)
Also my notes said that in previous years he didn't have a 'man's body', obviously he has now, to be thrown full time inside Mid.
I didn't see the Marsh games, but according to his SC scoring he did well in those games, so maybe he can hold down his new role all year.
Like with a lot of players, we can find heaps of good reasons to get excited to start a player, but all it takes is one, or two reasons, to not start a player. I'm looking for that one good reason not to take a chance on McGrath to be a worthwhile selection, either as a good upgrader, or a M8 Keeper.
In a nutshell, we don't know what will happen in the future, so understandably unsure, like has McGrath got that x-factor that (I think) ESS needs in their midfield.
You mentioned that ESS runs pretty deep through the centre bounce, am I correct in thinking that none of the last year's midfielders were really good in there, so that is why McGrath has this new role
RE: ...…..Stringer (who just attends approx 25-35% CB's but doesn't play midfield)…... an example of why I don't think ESS have enough good Mids.
ESS said McGrath is set to move to full-time inside midfielder, they must have some confidence in him to do well in there, to make such a statement (can't remember where I read that, it's in my notes, hoping it is not the media sensationalising?)
Also my notes said that in previous years he didn't have a 'man's body', obviously he has now, to be thrown full time inside Mid.
I didn't see the Marsh games, but according to his SC scoring he did well in those games, so maybe he can hold down his new role all year.
Like with a lot of players, we can find heaps of good reasons to get excited to start a player, but all it takes is one, or two reasons, to not start a player. I'm looking for that one good reason not to take a chance on McGrath to be a worthwhile selection, either as a good upgrader, or a M8 Keeper.
McGrath seems to expensive to me to be using as a stepping stone.
Starting a DPP like Mahony or Budarick might even let you get M9 score instead of F6
