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Which team wins a final first?

  • Essendon

    Votes: 23 28.4%
  • Tasmania

    Votes: 58 71.6%

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We can play 17 after June 1: AFL chief not backing down
APRIL 01, 2020

AFL CHIEF executive Gillon McLachlan is confident the League can get a 17-round season away, even if its return date is pushed beyond June 1.

The season is suspended until at least May 31 due to the coronavirus pandemic and was reduced to 17 rounds and finals before the 2020 campaign kicked off.

McLachlan said there are no plans to cut the season length beyond that figure and flagged the possibility of squeezing extra games into weeks to ensure the abbreviated campaign were completed.

"What we're saying is 'What is the drop-dead date to get 17 rounds away?'" McLachlan told ABC Radio Melbourne on Thursday.

"And it's certainly later than June 1 - we can get our season away later than that.

"So it may get to the point that we need to look at different models beyond 17 but at the moment we have given ourselves that flexibility by 17 rounds.

"We've got a really united industry, a united group of players and clubs that know that it's plausible to get 17 rounds away (and) almost maybe in less than 17 weeks if we compress it a little bit - maybe we could pick up one or two weeks there over the course of 17 weeks.

"So we have time beyond June 1 to get 17 rounds away."

Meanwhile, McLachlan said AFL club members could ask for refunds if they needed but emphasised the importance of memberships to the 18 clubs' financial viability.

"Of course (members can get refunds). If they need it, they can," he said.

"But yes, we would love them to stay because our industry is in a battle and our clubs are in a battle to get through and the membership is their life blood.

"But all I'd say is I understand the pain going on out there and people need to make their own decisions... Though I know our members understand how big their contribution of membership is to their clubs."
 
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We can play 17 after June 1: AFL chief not backing down
APRIL 01, 2020

AFL CHIEF executive Gillon McLachlan is confident the League can get a 17-round season away, even if its return date is pushed beyond June 1.

The season is suspended until at least May 31 due to the coronavirus pandemic and was reduced to 17 rounds and finals before the 2020 campaign kicked off.

McLachlan said there are no plans to cut the season length beyond that figure and flagged the possibility of squeezing extra games into weeks to ensure the abbreviated campaign were completed.

"What we're saying is 'What is the drop-dead date to get 17 rounds away?'" McLachlan told ABC Radio Melbourne on Thursday.

"And it's certainly later than June 1 - we can get our season away later than that.

"So it may get to the point that we need to look at different models beyond 17 but at the moment we have given ourselves that flexibility by 17 rounds.

"We've got a really united industry, a united group of players and clubs that know that it's plausible to get 17 rounds away (and) almost maybe in less than 17 weeks if we compress it a little bit - maybe we could pick up one or two weeks there over the course of 17 weeks.

"So we have time beyond June 1 to get 17 rounds away."

Meanwhile, McLachlan said AFL club members could ask for refunds if they needed but emphasised the importance of memberships to the 18 clubs' financial viability.

"Of course (members can get refunds). If they need it, they can," he said.

"But yes, we would love them to stay because our industry is in a battle and our clubs are in a battle to get through and the membership is their life blood.

"But all I'd say is I understand the pain going on out there and people need to make their own decisions... Though I know our members understand how big their contribution of membership is to their clubs."
They're just trying to stay in the news cycle. Currently .02% of Australians have been confirmed to have the virus and a suggestion today that human trials of the vaccine could be as "close" as 3 to 4 months away.
 
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REVEALED: The AFL's plan to restart footy
APRIL 05, 2020

AFL CLUBS will be given at least a three-week "pre-season" but no practice matches before a resumption of play in 2020.

With competition suspended due to the coronavirus outbreak, AFL general manager of football operations Steve Hocking has also told AFL.com.au that a rule allowing extra interchange players would be considered........

.........."everyone gets to the start line, all the same."...........

..........before the opening round, the AFL Commission announced it had reduced from 22 to 17 the amount of games each club must play in 2020..........

..........The AFL has declared it would not consider a return to matches until June, but it is likely the season suspension will continue long beyond that month.

Hocking said discussions with the football department heads at clubs had also raised the possibility of additional bench players, and even the re-introduction of a substitute player........

......."Getting round one away was a real credit to everybody. The decisions before that to shorten the quarters, to keep rotations at 90, and also to lengthen the time post-goals to allow access to trainers and water carriers, all the feedback to that has been exceptional.

"We've got a good body of evidence from round one that sets us up to move forward … round one is what we will take forward at this point in time.........

........."This season, the team that wins the premiership is going to be an amazing team because there is so much they are going to have to work through.........

............rounds two to four would be retained as per initial fixturing, at least in terms of match-ups if not venues.
But Hocking suggested even that could change. "There is some uncertainty around that," Hocking said. "But we haven't shifted away from that at this stage."
 
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Things won't be normal until a vaccine so next year will be affected as well.
The players, coaches and TV production teams would have to agree to be quarantined.
Unfortunately with 600+ players some idiots will try and catch up with their family so it needs to be away from where the teams are based. Tassie, Cairns, Townsville, Darwin, Alice Springs. They would need security outside the ground to stop the public from trying to watch.
A FIFO type setup with a rolling fixture where two, maybe 4 teams at a time can go home for one or two weeks.
So 14 or 16 teams would play each other with one or two games each day and teams would take turns going home and then spending two weeks in quarantine each time they return. They would have constant 5 or 6 day breaks and play 10 or 11 games in an 8 or 9 week stretch.
A hotel would never work. They would need a base with cabins and an open grass area to train. They might be able to organise a whole caravan park or a school campground for each team. The clubs would also have to minimise risk by only training 2 or 3 players at a time in case of a positive test when they go into quarantine. If there is a positive test that player and their training partner stay isolated and play goes on.

Having said all of the above (I need something to think about).....................the lawyers will make it very hard.

The below comments are from wikipedia regarding the Spanish Flu.

"Some fatal cases did continue into March 1919, killing one player in the 1919 Stanley Cup Finals. "

"Long-term effects
A 2006 study in the Journal of Political Economy found that "cohorts in utero during the pandemic displayed reduced educational attainment, increased rates of physical disability, lower income, lower socioeconomic status, and higher transfer payments received compared with other birth cohorts."[117] A 2018 study found that the pandemic reduced educational attainment in populations."

I love footy and I'll watch it if they play but the AFL is slowly understanding that they are not an essential service. Some of them are having more trouble than others grasping this reality.
 
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Things won't be normal until a vaccine so next year will be affected as well.
The players, coaches and TV production teams would have to agree to be quarantined.
Unfortunately with 600+ players some idiots will try and catch up with their family so it needs to be away from where the teams are based. Tassie, Cairns, Townsville, Darwin, Alice Springs. They would need security outside the ground to stop the public from trying to watch.
A FIFO type setup with a rolling fixture where two, maybe 4 teams at a time can go home for one or two weeks.
So 14 or 16 teams would play each other with one or two games each day and teams would take turns going home and then spending two weeks in quarantine each time they return. They would have constant 5 or 6 day breaks and play 10 or 11 games in an 8 or 9 week stretch.
A hotel would never work. They would need a base with cabins and an open grass area to train. They might be able to organise a whole caravan park or a school campground for each team. The clubs would also have to minimise risk by only training 2 or 3 players at a time in case of a positive test when they go into quarantine. If there is a positive test that player and their training partner stay isolated and play goes on.

Having said all of the above (I need something to think about).....................the lawyers will make it very hard.

The below comments are from wikipedia regarding the Spanish Flu.

"Some fatal cases did continue into March 1919, killing one player in the 1919 Stanley Cup Finals. "

"Long-term effects
A 2006 study in the Journal of Political Economy found that "cohorts in utero during the pandemic displayed reduced educational attainment, increased rates of physical disability, lower income, lower socioeconomic status, and higher transfer payments received compared with other birth cohorts."[117] A 2018 study found that the pandemic reduced educational attainment in populations."

I love footy and I'll watch it if they play but the AFL is slowly understanding that they are not an essential service. Some of them are having more trouble than others grasping this reality.
Checkout Homeground Villages in Calliope.

NRL had the right idea , base everyone their and play in Gladstone , Brisbane & Townsville.
 
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Carlton coach David Teague left ‘really sad’ by club’s brutal call to axe VFL side Northern Blues

Carlton coach David Teague says it was “extremely disappointing” to see the club end its partnership with its VFL side Northern Blues, essentially shutting them down after 138 years.

Budget cuts forced by the coronavirus shutdown saw the Blues end their alignment with the club, previously known as the Northern Bullants and Preston, a fortnight ago..........

...........“In the end it became a decision that probably had to happen with the financial position the whole AFL is in right now. I was really sad, but at times you’ve got to make these decisions in the best interests of the club.” ...........
 
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