Position Forward Discussion

[TigerTime]

I Heeney:
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J Rowbottom:
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These are great! You wouldn't have Hugh Greenwood's heat map handy would you? Or point me in the direction of where I can access these heat maps? Thanks

 

[Connoisseur]

These are great! You wouldn't have Hugh Greenwood's heat map handy would you? Or point me in the direction of where I can access these heat maps? Thanks

For anyone wishing to access the heatmaps-

https://www.telstra.com.au/support/category/entertainment/sports/what-is-the-AFL-live-app
How do I take up the Live Pass offer?

If you’re an eligible Telstra mobile customer, you can take up the Live Pass offer by:

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2. Open the app and follow the prompts to the welcome screen.
3. If you’re an eligible Telstra mobile customer*, you’ll see a ‘congratulations’ screen telling you that you‘ve now got access to the app.
4. Start watching!

https://www.afl.com.au/mobile/terms
If you’re a Telstra mobile customer with a current Telstra post-paid mobile, pre-paid mobile or mobile broadband plan, a Season Pass is included as part of your post-paid plan or when you maintain a $30+ active pre-paid recharge.

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Allows free streaming of all matches in addition to the heatmaps,etc.

 

[Connoisseur]

These are great! You wouldn't have Hugh Greenwood's heat map handy would you? Or point me in the direction of where I can access these heat maps? Thanks

 

[Connoisseur]

These are great! You wouldn't have Hugh Greenwood's heat map handy would you? Or point me in the direction of where I can access these heat maps? Thanks

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And from early preseason research-
H Greenwood:
Career SC Avg: 85.42 from 48 (18/48 below 80, 36/48 below 100, 2/48 120+)
2017 SC Avg: 84.58 from 12
2018 SC Avg: 85.95 from 22
2019 SC Avg: 85.29 from 14

Career Tackles Avg: 6.58
SC avg when tackles equal/exceed 7: 95.04 from 24 (low of 70 and a high of 127, 4/24 below 80, 16/24 below 100, 1/24 120+)
SC avg when tackles below 7: 75.79 from 24 (low of 45 and a high of 133, 14/24 below 80, 20/24 below 100, 1/24 120+)

Career Contested Possessions Avg: 11.38
SC avg when contested possessions equal/exceed 12: 99.62 from 21 (low of 68 and a high of 133, 2/21 below 80, 12/21 below 100, 2/21 120+)
SC avg when contested possessions below 12: 74.37 from 27 (low of 45 and a high of 104, 14/24 below 80, 24/27 below 100, 0/27 120+)

Career TOG Avg: 71.52%
SC avg when TOG equals/exceeds 72%: 91.16 from 25 (low of 52 and a high of 133, 5/25 below 80, 19/25 below 100, 1/25 120+)
SC avg when TOG below 72%: 79.17 from 23 (low of 45 and a high of 127, 13/23 below 80, 17/23 below 100, 1/23 120+)

 

[TigerTime]

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Thank you kind sir ?. I'm leaning towards Greenwood over Heeney due to greater mid time and his high CP rate.

 

[TigerTime]

For anyone wishing to access the heatmaps-

https://www.telstra.com.au/support/category/entertainment/sports/what-is-the-AFL-live-app
How do I take up the Live Pass offer?

If you’re an eligible Telstra mobile customer, you can take up the Live Pass offer by:

1. Downloading or updating the AFL Live app from the Apple App Store or Google Play. Data fees apply to download the app.
2. Open the app and follow the prompts to the welcome screen.
3. If you’re an eligible Telstra mobile customer*, you’ll see a ‘congratulations’ screen telling you that you‘ve now got access to the app.
4. Start watching!

https://www.afl.com.au/mobile/terms
If you’re a Telstra mobile customer with a current Telstra post-paid mobile, pre-paid mobile or mobile broadband plan, a Season Pass is included as part of your post-paid plan or when you maintain a $30+ active pre-paid recharge.

You can activate your Season Pass until 31 December 2020 using your compatible Telstra mobile or tablet on the Telstra mobile network, by downloading the AFL Live Official app from the app stores (data charges apply) and following the prompts. Video data usage for the Season Pass is unmetered within Australia when using your compatible Telstra device on the Telstra mobile network.


Allows free streaming of all matches in addition to the heatmaps,etc.

Unfortunately I'm not a Telstra customer, but I do appreciate you posting some of the relevant heat maps for us.

 

[NT.Thunder]

For anyone wishing to access the heatmaps-

https://www.telstra.com.au/support/category/entertainment/sports/what-is-the-AFL-live-app
How do I take up the Live Pass offer?

If you’re an eligible Telstra mobile customer, you can take up the Live Pass offer by:

1. Downloading or updating the AFL Live app from the Apple App Store or Google Play. Data fees apply to download the app.
2. Open the app and follow the prompts to the welcome screen.
3. If you’re an eligible Telstra mobile customer*, you’ll see a ‘congratulations’ screen telling you that you‘ve now got access to the app.
4. Start watching!

https://www.afl.com.au/mobile/terms
If you’re a Telstra mobile customer with a current Telstra post-paid mobile, pre-paid mobile or mobile broadband plan, a Season Pass is included as part of your post-paid plan or when you maintain a $30+ active pre-paid recharge.

You can activate your Season Pass until 31 December 2020 using your compatible Telstra mobile or tablet on the Telstra mobile network, by downloading the AFL Live Official app from the app stores (data charges apply) and following the prompts. Video data usage for the Season Pass is unmetered within Australia when using your compatible Telstra device on the Telstra mobile network.


Allows free streaming of all matches in addition to the heatmaps,etc.

Yeah the AFL stats are much better these last couple of years, they are hidden a little and take a bit of getting used to in navigating but I like the site now.

 

[BC]

Darcy Fort
Trap? 90av out of the question?

 

[Connoisseur]

Yeah the AFL stats are much better these last couple of years, they are hidden a little and take a bit of getting used to in navigating but I like the site now.

And for those wishing to find the Hitouts to Advantage-https://www.afl.com.au/stats/stats-pro#/

 

[Connoisseur]

Darcy Fort
Trap? 90av out of the question?

Very intrigued and can hopefully be a solid stepping stone in the fwd line, a means to avoid a rookie score or facilitating other upgrades via a downgrade to a Rankine,etc in the coming rounds if his position is in jeopardy.

RD1 VS GWS:
Hitouts: 24
Hitouts To Advantage (HTA): 10
HTA%: 41.7%
Ruck Contests: 53
Hitout Win%: 45.3%
Disposals: 8
Contested Possessions: 6
Disposal Efficiency: 37.5%
Time On Ground%: 83
SC= 94

2019:
11 HTA from 3 games and 37 Hitouts at a HTA% of 29.7%.

 

[Kidult]

Very intrigued and can hopefully be a solid stepping stone in the fwd line, a means to avoid a rookie score or facilitating other upgrades via a downgrade to a Rankine,etc in the coming rounds if his position is in jeopardy.

Darcy Fort
Trap? 90av out of the question?

RD1 VS GWS:
Hitouts: 24
Hitouts To Advantage (HTA): 10
HTA%: 41.7%
Ruck Contests: 53
Hitout Win%: 45.3%
Disposals: 8
Contested Possessions: 6
Disposal Efficiency: 37.5%
Time On Ground%: 83
SC= 94

2019:
11 HTA from 3 games and 37 Hitouts at a HTA% of 29.7%.

Interesting month ahead Hawks,Blues,Demons,Suns. I can see him holding spot for 2 rounds and they may end up playing Stanley against Gawn.

 

[scarfaceclaw]

Thank you kind sir ?. I'm leaning towards Greenwood over Heeney due to greater mid time and his high CP rate.

I'm bringing in Greenwood over Heeney for the same reasons. He should be a full time mid at Gold Coast and his supercoach scores have been impacted by his lack of gametime due to his inability to run out games. Shorter quarters means a higher game time percentage. Also... he is cheaper and we have missed Heeney's big score.

 

[TigerTime]

I'm bringing in Greenwood over Heeney for the same reasons. He should be a full time mid at Gold Coast and his supercoach scores have been impacted by his lack of gametime due to his inability to run out games. Shorter quarters means a higher game time percentage. Also... he is cheaper and we have missed Heeney's big score.

Agreed. Can see a few low games with Heeney playing deep to come. The extra $50k from Greenwood over Heeney will be handy in fixing rookie mistakes for myself

 

[Pieman17]

Am I the only one who thinks Heeney is a far better forward than midfielder.

Wouldn‘t read much into him playing forward tbh, he will score just fine.

 

[Connoisseur]

Am I the only one who thinks Heeney is a far better forward than midfielder.

Wouldn‘t read much into him playing forward tbh, he will score just fine.

Another aspect garnering little attention, is his current price ($510,700).
Since 2018- 8/44 rounds below $450,000
Avg since 2017 (inc RD1 2020): 97.16 from 62

Shouldn’t be a large disappointment at his current price (for output) and potentially a safer option if willing to pay an extra $50,000 to $100,000 in comparison to the options in the mid to low $400,000 range.

 

[TigerTime]

Another aspect garnering little attention, is his current price ($510,700).
Since 2018- 8/44 rounds below $450,000
Avg since 2017 (inc RD1 2020): 97.16 from 62

Shouldn’t be a large disappointment at his current price (for output) and potentially a safer option if willing to pay an extra $50,000 to $100,000 in comparison to the options in the mid to low $400,000 range.

Some good points made. Is definitely the safer option. I think we often (or just me) tend to think players of Heeney's size and potential must play mid to score well enough. If the game stays fast paced like round 1 it will suit him to a T.

 

[Connoisseur]

J Simpkin:

12/57 matches with 20 or more disposals: 100.83 from 12 (low of 73 and a high of 131, 5/12 below 100, 2/12 120+)

15/57 matches with 10 or more contested possessions: 98.73 from 15 (low of 73 and a high of 131, 8/15 below 100, 2/15 120+)

16/57 matches with 80%+ TOG%: 74.38 from 16 (low of 35 and a high of 131, 12/16 below 100, 1/16 120+)

RD1 2020:
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10/44 games under Brad Scott with 10 or more contested possessions= 90.7 from 10
5/13 games under Rhyce Shaw with 10 or more contested possessions= 114.8 SC avg
RD11 2019= 14 CP 95
RD15 2019= 17CP 106
RD16 2019= 21CP 125
RD22 2019= 13CP 117
RD1 2020= 11 CP 131

Also, elevated to the leadership group this season- https://www.nmfc.com.au/news/560816/north-s-new-leadership-group

 

[Kidult]

Some good points made. Is definitely the safer option. I think we often (or just me) tend to think players of Heeney's size and potential must play mid to score well enough. If the game stays fast paced like round 1 it will suit him to a T.

Funny enough i picked Whitfield over Heeney to start as he had that wrist injury right up until the start of season.

 

[Connoisseur]

J Simpkin:

CBA 2020:

 

[Connoisseur]

H Greenwood:
CBA 2020: