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^About time they scrap their rubbish system
My only concern is, they will replace one crap unfair and inconsistent method with another one just as crap unfair and inconsistent!
 

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Here is a few leaks coming in...

A few gun forwards will be under-priced in 2014. Matthew Pavlich is projected to start around the $385,000 mark whilst Taylor Walker is projected to start at roughly $380,000 on the come-back from an ACL Injury.
Nic Naitanui is projected to start 2014 at just $456,000 after just 11 games in 2013. He still managed to score six tons for an average of 96.2.
On the comeback from injury, Mitch Clark is projected to start the SuperCoach season at a bargain basement price of $275,000.
Jarred McVeigh, Jimmy Bartel and Sam Mitchell will all be pricey defenders in 2014, all projected to be around the $500,000 mark next season.
 

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Looks to be an MN of around 4740. Hmmm, last time it was this low we had 33 player squads.
What was the set up back then? My memory doesn't stretch that far back :(

It wasn't a 10 player midfield though right?
 

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What was the set up back then? My memory doesn't stretch that far back :(

It wasn't a 10 player midfield though right?
Haha, now you're testing my memory. Think it was 10 DEFs and FWDs, 9 MIDs, 4 RUCs back then.

Wonder if we'll have 9 DEFs and FWDs, 11 MIDs and 4 RUCs for next year.
 

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Looks like you're right! :D



I think they will keep the increased number of mids so you could be right.
 

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Looks to be an MN of around 4740. Hmmm, last time it was this low we had 33 player squads.
Last time it was this low we also had all high draft picks initially valued at <$200k

Perhaps the number of players will be retained at 30, but the low MN will be compensation for an increase in prices of the higher draft picks, as seen in the AFL Fantasy (Dreamteam) pricelist?

Maybe both will come into effect? 33 selections and higher rookie prices?

Gee, that would really make you stretch the dollars - selecting rookies with care and premiums with value.

It would introduce a bit more skill back into team selection and reward those who put in the research effort.
 

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Last time it was this low we also had all high draft picks initially valued at <$200k

Perhaps the number of players will be retained at 30, but the low MN will be compensation for an increase in prices of the higher draft picks, as seen in the AFL Fantasy (Dreamteam) pricelist?

Maybe both will come into effect? 33 selections and higher rookie prices?

Gee, that would really make you stretch the dollars - selecting rookies with care and premiums with value.

It would introduce a bit more skill back into team selection and reward those who put in the research effort.
Good point. There has been a few articles on the AFL website around very high prices for first round picks so perhaps it is both.

I guess all will be revealed in a week or 2
 

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Good point. There has been a few articles on the AFL website around very high prices for first round picks so perhaps it is both.

I guess all will be revealed in a week or 2
Doesn't matter if a high price rookie would earn you over 200k then it's worth it rather then a bottom priced one who may not get to do too much like jack viney last season for example
 

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It annoys me that SC Paige don't have any source attached to their information.
The problem with that is the sources of said information would quickly lose access to same if their name was attached to it... Anonymity works both ways.
 

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That's a good point. we need to find the Crouches, Wines, and O'Mearas for next year.
Jack Viney was just unfortunate with his injuries otherwise he would have made at least 200K had he played in the first 8 rounds

Doesn't matter if a high price rookie would earn you over 200k then it's worth it rather then a bottom priced one who may not get to do too much like jack viney last season for example
 
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That's a good point. we need to find the Crouches, Wines, and O'Mearas for next year.
Jack Viney was just unfortunate with his injuries otherwise he would have made at least 200K had he played in the first 8 rounds
Personally given the while point of rookies is to generate cash I'm of the opinion that it is vital to have the best in each position. Wines started at around $170k last year and Vlastiun at around $160k these aside from O'Meara were two of the best.

Both were more expensive but proved to be vital not only because of the cash generation but also for the higher scores they were able to generate.

If the best rookie in a position costs $180k-$200k then I am prepared to pay it.

This is just my opinion of course.
 

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The problem with that is the sources of said information would quickly lose access to same if their name was attached to it... Anonymity works both ways.
That is true, but without a source it's impossible to know if it's an educated guess or actual figures.
 

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Personally given the while point of rookies is to generate cash I'm of the opinion that it is vital to have the best in each position. Wines started at around $170k last year and Vlastiun at around $160k these aside from O'Meara were two of the best.

Both were more expensive but proved to be vital not only because of the cash generation but also for the higher scores they were able to generate.

If the best rookie in a position costs $180k-$200k then I am prepared to pay it.

This is just my opinion of course.
It's a real interesting one. I almost never pay more than rock bottom for rookies as i'm a firm believer in the loose change philosophy as well the perceived additional money made from not spending top dollar...that has served me well until the two players you just mentioned, punished me week in week out in two ways. The money made was one thing but the higher scores you mentioned were what really hurt and had me falling behind week after week.

Wines was the one that really stung as it changed my whole starting structure for the worse and alot of top teams started with him.. definitely taking a different approach next year.
 
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If the rookie price change mirrors that of DT, then we could be looking at getting next year's Wines/Vlastuin at 260K

Personally given the while point of rookies is to generate cash I'm of the opinion that it is vital to have the best in each position. Wines started at around $170k last year and Vlastiun at around $160k these aside from O'Meara were two of the best.

Both were more expensive but proved to be vital not only because of the cash generation but also for the higher scores they were able to generate.

If the best rookie in a position costs $180k-$200k then I am prepared to pay it.

This is just my opinion of course.
 
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If the rookie price change mirrors that of DT, then we could be looking at getting next year's Wines/Vlastuin at 260K
Until we get a better idea of the prices and structure for next year it is hard to speculate.

Don't forget that the salary cap went up by nearly 10&#8453; as well for dream team.
 

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That is true, but without a source it's impossible to know if it's an educated guess or actual figures.
Indeed, but would you prefer some information of dubious quality or nothing at all? Catch 22 isn't it :/
 

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Personally given the while point of rookies is to generate cash I'm of the opinion that it is vital to have the best in each position. Wines started at around $170k last year and Vlastiun at around $160k these aside from O'Meara were two of the best.

Both were more expensive but proved to be vital not only because of the cash generation but also for the higher scores they were able to generate.

If the best rookie in a position costs $180k-$200k then I am prepared to pay it.

This is just my opinion of course.
Like everything in SC it's all about how you spend that extra cash. Say you Kelly averages 90ppg next and someone like Jansen (just an example as he's the only later rd mid draft pick I know) averages 80ppg and both play the first 8-10 rds (until upgrade time basically). By picking Jansen you'll save about 80k, which you can spend in another position. If you spend it well you can get a player who averages 5-15 points more in that position and ends the season as a premium who needs no upgrading (saving a trade even if you may lose a few points. Alternatively the cheaper player may not play every week and only averages say 70 and in this case you'd be better off with Kelly. Also if you don't spend the money well and get someone who provides the same or less output than your original pick then you're better off with Kelly. The important thing is to pick the best rookies in respect to the rest of your team.
 

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Until we get a better idea of the prices and structure for next year it is hard to speculate.

Don't forget that the salary cap went up by nearly 10&#8453; as well for dream team.
I think the DT cap tends to be in line with the actual AFL cap hence the adjustment.
 
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