Discussion Round 12: Teams & In Game Discussion

[Herbie66]

Haha noooo but it's the hope that kills you !!!

Is that like it's not the fall that kills you but the impact when you hit the ground ?

It's only one round , just manage what you can

Good luck

 

[Deeman1]

Any late changes

No

 

[Zimmer]

Think I'll stick with Neale's VC. Have made too many mistakes this week already. If Macrae goes big, I win either way - sort of.

(ie. watch for Macrae to break the all-time record for SC scoring today.)

 

[Manikato1]

It’s has been horrendous.

Viney takes the legs of Steele, Mapies stream forward Melbourne flood the defence viney is on the mark, Steele has the ball. Every player on the field knows it’s a Magpie free kick.

Except the umpire.

And the. Moments later exact same situation but this time goes the other way.

Players are dropping the ball with prior nothing, player has no chance of prior Ump calls holding the ball.

Then the FREO Game....well..

The media need to call it as it is. Horrendous.?
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Like many things Covid seems to have this year compressed the broader spreadout problems often bubbling under the surface into a focussed and condensed view that is hard to avoid. The umpiring has been a problem for the past few years with changes to the "interpretation" of prior opportunity, incorrect disposal, hands/arms in the back in marking contests etc etc. And that is not just seasonally but weekly. I have said before they need to go back to the basics and get away from "interpretation". Eg If you have the ball and you are tackled you must dispose of it correctly. Don't give a f**k about prior opportunity, you tried to kick it, my arms were pinned blah blah blah. You must either kick it or handball it. If you don't you are penalised. Yes there may be more free kicks given but the ball will be moved away from the area via a kick which will avoid the rugby scrum congestion, repeat stacks on the mill that our game has become. And the umps will have an easier job. Agree the press should be applying the pressure on the AFL. Unfortunately too many media outlets have sweetheart deals with the AFL (read Ch 7 for example) that makes criticising them too hard. And one of the games biggest contributors (the fans) once again have the smallest say about the game they support.

 

[Diabolical]

Less than an hour now to decide

Neale .... Macrae .... Neale .... Macrae .... Neale .... Macrae .... Neale .... Macrae .... Neale .... Macrae .... Neale .... Macrae ....

 

[freowho]

I think the mix at Freo will be different for the rest of the year. Brayshaw and Walters might become negative PODs. Blakely looked good last night and scored 93 from 55% time on ground. His TOG should go up. Brayshaw's time on ground went back down to 71% and even though they might be managing him I don't think he'll get the opportunity he had before the bye.

 

[Monya Meow Meow]

Any chance of Bailey Williams coming in today?
I need him not to play as my loop...

 

[Seymour Skinner]

Projected 2633. Highest score for the year easily. That is until I cop a Dev Smith donut

10/1131
Laird, Macrae, Bont, Smith
Ridley, Dev🍩
NN, Yeo, Sicily, TMitch

Dusty, Greenwood.

Have Neale's 134 as VC, wanna risk it and back in Macrae...

 

[BigRuss]

I think the mix at Freo will be different for the rest of the year. Brayshaw and Walters might become negative PODs. Blakely looked good last night and scored 93 from 55% time on ground. His TOG should go up. Brayshaw's time on ground went back down to 71% and even though they might be managing him I don't think he'll get the opportunity he had before the bye.

Why do you think the mix will change? I understand playing Walters in a pocket on return but playing Fyfe as a makeshift forward pocket for a half yesterday has to be up there with the dumbest coaching decisions I’ve ever seen.

You win that game if he plays in the mid, even for 1 more quarter.

 

[GrainFedBeef]

Less than an hour now to decide

Neale .... Macrae .... Neale .... Macrae .... Neale .... Macrae .... Neale .... Macrae .... Neale .... Macrae .... Neale .... Macrae ....

going to roll on Macrae. Adelaide giving up scores, Keay hasn't tagged for some time and could go Bont if they do. Also will help a league game if he can go 150.

 

[Ironhawk]

Like many things Covid seems to have this year compressed the broader spreadout problems often bubbling under the surface into a focussed and condensed view that is hard to avoid. The umpiring has been a problem for the past few years with changes to the "interpretation" of prior opportunity, incorrect disposal, hands/arms in the back in marking contests etc etc. And that is not just seasonally but weekly. I have said before they need to go back to the basics and get away from "interpretation". Eg If you have the ball and you are tackled you must dispose of it correctly. Don't give a f**k about prior opportunity, you tried to kick it, my arms were pinned blah blah blah. You must either kick it or handball it. If you don't you are penalised. Yes there may be more free kicks given but the ball will be moved away from the area via a kick which will avoid the rugby scrum congestion, repeat stacks on the mill that our game has become. And the umps will have an easier job. Agree the press should be applying the pressure on the AFL. Unfortunately too many media outlets have sweetheart deals with the AFL (read Ch 7 for example) that makes criticising them too hard. And one of the games biggest contributors (the fans) once again have the smallest say about the game they support.

I was going to post something similar in the rant thread (may still), but this sums up a large part of it well. They need to get rid of umpires having to make an interpretation on a rule, it should be clearly defined if something is a free or not, and not have so many grey areas.

 

[Tamuhawk]

Less than an hour now to decide

Neale .... Macrae .... Neale .... Macrae .... Neale .... Macrae .... Neale .... Macrae .... Neale .... Macrae .... Neale .... Macrae ....

MacNeale

 

[Ben's Beasts]

Last time I said it, it worked so hopefully it works again.

If Bont could outscore Macrae today then that would be great.

 

[AngryAnt]

Macrae, Baz, Lairdy and McPherson in this one and Schoey on the bench. Hoping Macrae goes large but not that large so Neale VC isn't a mistake, Baz finally tons up today, 120+ from Laird and a solid 80 from McPherson.

 

[BomberSam]

Last time I said it, it worked so hopefully it works again.

If Bont could outscore Macrae today then that would be great.

I wonder if it works across different teams and games...

If McGrath could outscored Macrae today then that would be great.

 

[BomberSam]

My predictions:

Macrae 159
Laird 113
Bont 106
Bailey Smith 87

Hope the first 3 score a lot lower and Smith a lot higher.

 

[Connoisseur]

Last time I said it, it worked so hopefully it works again.

If Bont could outscore Macrae today then that would be great.

Bont:
Last 4 VS Adel: 126.5 from 4 (low of 97 and a high of 149, 1/4 below 100, 3/4 120+, 2/4 140+)

 

[Philzsay]

Need a 221 from captain Macrae today please.

 

[Tamuhawk]

Unpopular opinion but Macrae should sit out after the dogs are up by about 5 goals

 

[GrainFedBeef]

I think the mix at Freo will be different for the rest of the year. Brayshaw and Walters might become negative PODs. Blakely looked good last night and scored 93 from 55% time on ground. His TOG should go up. Brayshaw's time on ground went back down to 71% and even though they might be managing him I don't think he'll get the opportunity he had before the bye.

Why do you think the mix will change? I understand playing Walters in a pocket on return but playing Fyfe as a makeshift forward pocket for a half yesterday has to be up there with the dumbest coaching decisions I’ve ever seen.

You win that game if he plays in the mid, even for 1 more quarter.

Hard to say how it plays out, however, risks associated with Freo MID players. Walters 1st game back so maybe gets more mid time.

what is obvious is Freo is struggling to score so that does increase the chance Fyfe and Walters play more fwd. they will get mid time I expect and comes at the expense of Brayshaw/Cerra/Blakely/Serong.

I was surprised how many people traded Brayshaw in this week. Although, these risks can be easier to spot when you bring Wingard in earlier in the year and the pain is severe! same with Ceglar. oh, maybe Bailey Smith too.

Felt sorry for Seeing trying to do a run with role with Cripps, size difference is just too large. oh well, has now peaked and Simpkin looking better and could improve if Ziebell gets back.