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Danger is a no-brainer. Would have been in my starting midfield. Having as a forward is such a bonus. The only other forward lock for me will be Pavlich. As for Martin, his price is comparable to premium mids. I will have Cotch/Deledio in my side before Martin any day of the week. Will of course depend on where the value rookies lie, but I wouldn't rule out Danger, Pavlich, and fill with rookies in there. Boosting 2 prem rucks and 6 gun mids might be worth the gamble this year.
Just not convinced by any other forwards. Might wait and upgrade through there to N Roo, Boomer like every other year once they've dropped.
 
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Blaze said:
FWD break out candidates? Can any of these step up even half as well as the glory year of danger, beams and side bottom? I'd like to sneak one in as my F4.

Based purely on gut feeling and not statistical analysis these are my top 3

Motlop
Dahlhaus - I like him particularly due to his R9 bye
Howlett

Others on the watchlist...

Parker
Mitchell
Kerridge
Lyons
Mayes
Lewis Jetta
Caddy

Thoughts?
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Motlop, Mayes then Caddy is my guess but I won't be rolling the dice with any of them. Would have had christensen if he was still a forward though.
 
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Port are in an interesting position with Wingard.

We haven't been able to find a second consistent tall forward to support Shultz so we have used the combination of Wingard, Monfries and Westhoff to move the ball up the ground.

There is no reason at this stage to expect that to change unless Butcher improves.

Also with, Ebert, Boak, Cornes, Hartlett, Wines, Moore, Cassisi and now Polec and White getting the majority of midfield time the half forwards have been getting minimal time on ball.

If they expand the midfield with the rotation cap then Broadbent, Monfies, Gray and Wingfield are a chance to benefit. Of those, I expect Gray and Wingfield to get first crack.

Wingfield has been too important to our forward line to release into the midfield and I expect that to be the same again this year. He is a surprisingly good contested mark, can kick multiple goals and apply forward pressure.
 
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Nk29 said:
Motlop, Mayes then Caddy is my guess but I won't be rolling the dice with any of them. Would have had christensen if he was still a forward though.
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caddy and gray for mine.
Bloody higgins might get a run if he shows he's over the injuries. for under $250k, could pull out the 80-95s with a bit of luck
 
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Higgins or Gray for me but not both.........
Gray is injury prone but Higgins is even worst.
But both could easily hit the 450K mark.

Global_chef said:
caddy and gray for mine.
Bloody higgins might get a run if he shows he's over the injuries. for under $250k, could pull out the 80-95s with a bit of luck
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Batters31 said:
Wingfield are a chance to benefit. Of those, I expect Gray and Wingfield to get first crack.

Wingfield has been too important to our forward line to release into the midfield and I expect that to be the same again this year. He is a surprisingly good contested mark, can kick multiple goals and apply forward pressure.
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Need a smoke or something?

 
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The R/F Dilemma

Until the ruck rookie savour appears in pre season I am considering (like many) the possibility of the R/F swing as part of the forward line. For them to make the cut they need to be a realistic chance of outscoring similar priced forward options like Pav, Buddy, Gunston, JJK.....

Charlie Dixon 487,900

2011 - 10 games - 36.2
2012 - 12 games - 73.5
2013 - 13 games - 89.4

First 4 - Rich, Freo, Bris, Haw

Thoughts

Nice natural progression could mean a first year of 100 av for Charlie
Injury risk is the big one for me. He would be there partly for the Sandi R2 insurance but can he stay on the park?
Shares a bye with Danger and Dusty
Definitely the X Factor if his body is right

David Hale 449,000
2011 - 17 games - 75
2012 - 21 games - 95.6
2013 - 21 games - 82.9

First 4 - Bris, Ess, Freo, GC

Thoughts

Will he play less or more ruck time with Buddy gone and McEvoy in. My guess is more of the same from David so he doesn't warrant a spot.
R9 bye useful for fwd line

Tom Bellchambers 437,500

2011 - 13 Games - 71.4
2012 - 16 Games - 85.8
2013 - 18 Games - 81.1

First 4 - NM, Haw, Car, Freo - Tough Start!

Thoughts

Can't see his role changing much but will he get natural development? He is more entrenched in the Bombers best 22 now than ever.
Shares a bye with Sandi


I was hoping looking at this in more detail would help to convince me that an R/F could actually work but I just don't think it can! Stay in one piece Sandi....please!
 
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^Yeah not convinced any of them are any good. Pity nicnat and cox both lost DPP :(.
 
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Blaze said:
The R/F Dilemma

Until the ruck rookie savour appears in pre season I am considering (like many) the possibility of the R/F swing as part of the forward line. For them to make the cut they need to be a realistic chance of outscoring similar priced forward options like Pav, Buddy, Gunston, JJK.....

Charlie Dixon 487,900

2011 - 10 games - 36.2
2012 - 12 games - 73.5
2013 - 13 games - 89.4

First 4 - Rich, Freo, Bris, Haw

Thoughts

Nice natural progression could mean a first year of 100 av for Charlie
Injury risk is the big one for me. He would be there partly for the Sandi R2 insurance but can he stay on the park?
Shares a bye with Danger and Dusty
Definitely the X Factor if his body is right

David Hale 449,000
2011 - 17 games - 75
2012 - 21 games - 95.6
2013 - 21 games - 82.9

First 4 - Bris, Ess, Freo, GC

Thoughts

Will he play less or more ruck time with Buddy gone and McEvoy in. My guess is more of the same from David so he doesn't warrant a spot.
R9 bye useful for fwd line

Tom Bellchambers 437,500

2011 - 13 Games - 71.4
2012 - 16 Games - 85.8
2013 - 18 Games - 81.1

First 4 - NM, Haw, Car, Freo - Tough Start!

Thoughts

Can't see his role changing much but will he get natural development? He is more entrenched in the Bombers best 22 now than ever.
Shares a bye with Sandi


I was hoping looking at this in more detail would help to convince me that an R/F could actually work but I just don't think it can! Stay in one piece Sandi....please!
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Nice work mate and very handy for me as today I am sitting down and going to do some serious research and look into my side. The rucks are the position I have put the least amount of thought into so far and considering creating a DPP link to cover Sandilands.

As for the players you have listed, Dixon is the only one who strikes real interest SC wise. If he stays fit he could really go big I reckon.
Don't consider Hale, will still play the same role as this year and may even find himself subbed off on occasions, never been a huge fan of Bellchambers myself either.
 
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cotchya said:
Alright, time for the Shaun Higgins talk, what do you guys think? he is tempting as always.
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He's tempting every year isn't he? He's like the last piece of apple pie on xmas day after you've stuffed yourself silly and you just know you're going to regret it if you go there.

3 of his 8 seasons not cracking more than 5 games makes him too much of a risky proposition IMO. He's had a wretched run with injury and would be stoked for him and the Doggies if he's finally healthy and has a stellar season. He'd be a massive POD I would suspect. But the prospects of him being a massively bad/costly POD makes him a no for me.

Now apple pie on the other hand... Hmmmmmm. Love me some apple pie!!!!
 
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If Dixon could stay on the park, he would be an interesting pick. But what will the GC Suns do when Nicholls, Smith and Dixon are all fit and ready to play? If Nicholls/Smith/Dixon all play, will that mean less ruck time for big Charlie?
 
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Don't know much about him but I read in previous years that this guy can play.
So it will be Roo's job to try and get best out of him and fit into the new Melbourne game play.
Preseason will hopefully answer those questions.

Definitely should put him the to watch list

cotchya said:
What are your guys thoughts on Sam Blease? at only 179 thousand he looks the gamble IMO.
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