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I was just thinking the same , original plan might have been to arrive in Adelaide and link up with Rashid (unable to train but a chance for Noor to chat).

Still confused by the whole OS player availability though reading that article , sounds like Klinger was looking at the option of any 3 from 5 when they are all here.

Seems very odd to me if that's the case when 2 teams still only have 3 OS players.

Guess we will know for sure when teams are announced each round.
Going by my rough notes of availability early on:

- Rnd 1: Rossouw
- Rnd 2: Rossouw
- Rnd 3: Nabi, Noor, Rossouw
- Rnd 4 onwards: Nabi, Rossouw, Tahir, Wasim

So very depleted early on and bowling attack now looks rather thin during that time period as well ...
 
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Going my rough notes of availability early on:

- Rnd 1: Rossouw
- Rnd 2: Rossouw
- Rnd 3: Nabi, Noor, Rossouw
- Rnd 4 onwards: Nabi, Rossouw, Tahir, Wasim

So very depleted early on and bowling attack now looks rather thin during that time period as well ...
Still have Richardson , Lalor & Boyce.

+ 1 of Prestwidge/Evans/Perry until Sutherland is available.

Rd 4 onwards though who misses out ? and why sign them if you are not playing them every game

seems weird to me

if Finch , SOS & Roussow all get going together early they might not even worry who they have to bowl 😀
 
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Still have Richardson , Lalor & Boyce.

+ 1 of Prestwidge/Evans/Perry until Sutherland is available.

Rd 4 onwards though who misses out ? and why sign them if you are not playing them every game

seems weird to me

if Finch , SOS & Roussow all get going together early they might not even worry who bowls 😀
Not sure if Richo is a given yet but assume they were planning on having Nabi and Noor available

- Not sure how long Nabi will be here for either ...
 

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Okay so I think this is how things work. Feel free to correct me if you think I'm wrong..

Scorchers batting first with Turner on field in SC and he's subbed out as part of the x-factor rule, his score WILL NOT count and your emergency will count instead.

Scorchers bowling first with Turner on field in SC and he's subbed out as part of the x-factor rule, his score WILL count.

Any player who is subbed in as part of the x-factor rule WILL score points.

Sub fielders WILL NOT score points.
 
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Okay so I think this is how things work. Feel free to correct me if you think I'm wrong..

Scorchers batting first with Turner on field in SC and he's subbed out as part of the x-factor rule, his score WILL NOT count and your emergency will count instead.

Scorchers bowling first with Turner on field in SC and he's subbed out as part of the x-factor rule, his score WILL count.

Any player who is subbed in as part of the x-factor rule WILL score points.

Sub fielders WILL NOT score points.
From what I've read today that is my take on it thus far .....

So deliberately setting up more than one non-playing bench player for specific loophole purposes may come with additional risk.
 
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Okay so I think this is how things work. Feel free to correct me if you think I'm wrong..

Scorchers batting first with Turner on field in SC and he's subbed out as part of the x-factor rule, his score WILL NOT count and your emergency will count instead.

Scorchers bowling first with Turner on field in SC and he's subbed out as part of the x-factor rule, his score WILL count.

Any player who is subbed in as part of the x-factor rule WILL score points.

Sub fielders WILL NOT score points.

Like I said before and if your Bat Emergency is then subbed out in another game in the same round, you don't get any points at all.

Do they have a different ruling for concussion substitutes as well ?
 

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Here we go. The exact definition below which is exactly what I had mentioned a few posts above;

"Points are awarded based on a participant’s Starting 11 players and any “emergency” who replaces a member of the participant’s Starting 11. An emergency will also replace a player who is named in the starting 11 for the team batting first, but is substituted OUT of the match under the X-Factor supersub rule. The player being substituted IN and ALL substituted players from the team bowling first will not be replaced by emergencies and will be deemed to have played in the match.

A substitute who comes on and off the field temporarily (i.e. fielding) in a match will NOT be deemed to have played, and will NOT be awarded any points."
 
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Here we go. The exact definition below which is exactly what I had mentioned a few posts above;

"Points are awarded based on a participant’s Starting 11 players and any “emergency” who replaces a member of the participant’s Starting 11. An emergency will also replace a player who is named in the starting 11 for the team batting first, but is substituted OUT of the match under the X-Factor supersub rule. The player being substituted IN and ALL substituted players from the team bowling first will not be replaced by emergencies and will be deemed to have played in the match.

A substitute who comes on and off the field temporarily (i.e. fielding) in a match will NOT be deemed to have played, and will NOT be awarded any points."
That could have been worded better .... that very first sentence to me actually makes it confusing ....

- Probably should have used and any “emergency” who replaces a member of the participant’s Starting 11 that did not play etc .... as per usual ...

The other thing I'm still confused about ..... does the player that was a temporary "substituted" out receive any points by the temporary substitute ...

- Ie. Player A goes for a couple of overs, Player B replaces him and takes a catch. Does player A receive the points instead or are none awarded at all ???

- Wasn't it David Willey ?? who got injured in the warm up, never took part in the match but got awarded points for a catch he never took because he was listed in the starting XI ...
 
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Ingram subbed off for 0, replaced by Turner (E) subbed off for 0 different games, same round

Onfield donut as C to take VC score so you could end up with 2 donuts each round

or 3 if your bowler and bowler E are subbed off as well in the same round in the first innings

Might have to pick Bairstow to play it safe ;)
 
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Ingram subbed off for 0, replaced by Turner (E) subbed off for 0 different games, same round

Onfield donut as C to take VC score so you could end up with 2 donuts each round

or 3 if your bowler and bowler E are subbed off as well in the same round in the first innings

Might have to pick Bairstow to play it safe ;)
Maybe we should ask them to add Nevill in again...
 
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the way i read it every starting 11 or X factor player who takes the field is deemed to have participated in the match and as a result their score will count.
so the only way a player will be regarded as a non playing donut is if they bat first and are subbed out without getting a hit (or fielding obviously)

sub fielders will not count
 
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That’s it ... I’m filling my batting positions with openers!

Hang on, that won’t work if they field first!
The answer is your 10 WK side + 7 bowlers who will bowl more than 1 over (if they bowl first of course)

but maybe not Banton, Fletcher , Harper, Inglis , Philippe, Wade if they are going to open
 
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Ingram subbed off for 0, replaced by Turner (E) subbed off for 0 different games, same round

Onfield donut as C to take VC score so you could end up with 2 donuts each round

or 3 if your bowler and bowler E are subbed off as well in the same round in the first innings

Might have to pick Bairstow to play it safe ;)
Not too concerned about the batting line as "most" should be able to cover with an E ...

However the other two I am ....

- Quite a few running with Holt, Pfeffer etc but what if your other Keeper gets subbed out .... unlikely but not impossible ...

- But it's the bowling line I'm most concerned about .... doesn't bowl (0) or bowls one over and gets tonked (- points) ... not a thing you can do if they are one of your on field players and get subbed out as the score will stand
- However if they are an E and you have another E selected on the same bench then you may be able to get out of trouble ... time to review my bowling setup ...
 
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Not too concerned about the batting line as "most" should be able to cover with an E ...

However the other two I am ....

- Quite a few running with Holt, Pfeffer etc but what if your other Keeper gets subbed out .... unlikely but not impossible ...

- But it's the bowling line I'm most concerned about .... doesn't bowl (0) or bowls one over and gets tonked (- points) ... not a thing you can do if they get subbed out as the on score will stand ... time to review my bowling setup ...
i'm more concerned about Holt or Pfeffer getting subbed in.

as for the bowlers not much has changed. they get tonked, they get dragged, you get their ****ty score. just now there is absolutely no chance of redemption or a miracle 20 with the bat...but how often does that happen anyway.
 
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Not too concerned about the batting line as "most" should be able to cover with an E ...

However the other two I am ....

- Quite a few running with Holt, Pfeffer etc but what if your other Keeper gets subbed out .... unlikely but not impossible ...

- But it's the bowling line I'm most concerned about .... doesn't bowl (0) or bowls one over and gets tonked (- points) ... not a thing you can do if they get subbed out as the on score will stand ... time to review my bowling setup ...
Yeah I guess if you have a batsmen subbed out in the first game, you might have 2 choices available as the E.

I could see Holt & Pfeffer being subbed in if their team has bowled first and they then need to chase something down significantly (both sides probably have 6 bowling options)

Scorchers have keeping options that will play, so do the Hurricanes.

Stanlake could get smashed on his first over, no dot balls , a nb or a wide and off he goes.

How do you plan though for possible subs over the course of 61 games for what may or may not happen regularly ?
 
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i'm more concerned about Holt or Pfeffer getting subbed in.

as for the bowlers not much has changed. they get tonked, they get dragged, you get their ****ty score. just now there is absolutely no chance of redemption or a miracle 20 with the bat...but how often does that happen anyway.
Agree ... but you'd imagine if Holt or Pfeffer got subbed in then it was for a reason .... pinch hitters etc ....

TBH I don't have the answers ... just running through some scenarios with how strong a bench I might need to have at the moment ...

- only really got 2 players in my team that I would consider being at risk of being subbed out at the moment so don't need to change anything just yet ...
 
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