Discussion 2021: Strategy, Team & Player Discussions

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What convinced me to switch from Preuss to Gawn was Preuss's injury history. Apparently he has had a few injuries in the past so he's not 100% guaranteed to play 22. Add the fact that Mumford is there and it's not a sure thing that he'll be excellent enough as an R2 to risk losing out on Gawn 140s.
Always been conservative myself and never started both so I will this year.
 
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Thinking about Damon Greaves in defence, 20 year old, 3 games last year 97, 75, 100. I know he is a high priced mid at $389,700. Can any Hawks supporters tell me anything about him or anyone else has any thoughts. cheers
 
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Thinking about Damon Greaves in defence, 20 year old, 3 games last year 97, 75, 100. I know he is a high priced mid at $389,700. Can any Hawks supporters tell me anything about him or anyone else has any thoughts. cheers
Not sure he will play every game this year, but he does look like a good player in the future/when playing. Hawks played pretty much their whole list last year to trial them in the second half of the season to see who was worth keeping. I would look elsewhere personally, but if he is named in Rd 1 (I don't expect he will), it is very good signs, and he could work.
 
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Not sure he will play every game this year, but he does look like a good player in the future/when playing. Hawks played pretty much their whole list last year to trial them in the second half of the season to see who was worth keeping. I would look elsewhere personally, but if he is named in Rd 1 (I don't expect he will), it is very good signs, and he could work.
Thanks for the feedback, I will keep this in mind.
 
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Will be interesting to see Carltons backline with the likes of Weitering,Marchbank,Jones,Plowman,Saad,Docherty,Williamson,Newman,SPS.
Any blues supporters think any will change positions like SPS,Newman and Docherty to a wing? Who misses out on a starting gig?
 
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Seems like he is overpriced but he could be worth starting anyway, going to be a tough one
Going 170pts with the (C)...... good investment.
I wanted to go Preuss, but then I had to weight the extra trade and would the additional 400K make up the difference in points elsewhere.

Previous advice in this thread convinced me, there is better value players out there, I have taken the easy way with Gawn/Grundy.

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Will be interesting to see Carltons backline with the likes of Weitering,Marchbank,Jones,Plowman,Saad,Docherty,Williamson,Newman,SPS.
Any blues supporters think any will change positions like SPS,Newman and Docherty to a wing? Who misses out on a starting gig?
Newman worth a shout on the wing.?Does this Williams a lock? for midfield duties.
 
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The midfield options seem much more short this year compared to previous years. Only the three most expensive (Neale, Steele, Oliver) + Cripps seem to be really solid options. The Doggies midfield really throws a spanner in the works with Treloar threatening Macrae's and Bont's scoring, and there has to be a bit of doubt as to whether Petracca (forward risk?) and Merrett (disappointing 2018/19 seasons) can back up their averages.
 

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The midfield options seem much more short this year compared to previous years. Only the three most expensive (Neale, Steele, Oliver) + Cripps seem to be really solid options. The Doggies midfield really throws a spanner in the works with Treloar threatening Macrae's and Bont's scoring, and there has to be a bit of doubt as to whether Petracca (forward risk?) and Merrett (disappointing 2018/19 seasons) can back up their averages.
I largely agree with you - although I saw Mitchell as a key exception as well? Do you see some risk with him?
 
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I largely agree with you - although I saw Mitchell as a key exception as well? Do you see some risk with him?
Mitchell looks to be a good option, I am less convinced on Cripps. Whilst he had shoulder issues, the constant attention and tagging seem to wear him down.

The last game of 26 clearly underprices him by 3-4 points. How did the shoulder impact him, given his tackle count was solid through the year.

What is noticeable is his poor scoring games are mostly where his kick/handball ratio falls below 1, suggesting close attention sees him move to a handball game.

Each year it is hard to predict how many taggers there will be, just don't think he can wear the attention like Fyfe can, yet seems to have constant bodyguard whilst the seagull players can pick off the chips at will. Will review in preseason games.

anyone looking at Taylor Adams with no Treloar? highlighted in dream team article elsewhere, stacks up he does well ex Treloar.

To Me, Neale, Olivier and Mitchell look first picked, maybe Steele and Macrae, with Adams, Walsh and Cripps looking like they could have upside yet come with risk.
 
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The midfield options seem much more short this year compared to previous years. Only the three most expensive (Neale, Steele, Oliver) + Cripps seem to be really solid options. The Doggies midfield really throws a spanner in the works with Treloar threatening Macrae's and Bont's scoring, and there has to be a bit of doubt as to whether Petracca (forward risk?) and Merrett (disappointing 2018/19 seasons) can back up their averages.
Steele has to share with Brad Crouch this year. I'm not suggesting he becomes a bad pick but at that price it wouldn't hurt to wait and see.
 
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What is the best option for flexibility and value:

Dangerfield (mid) / Rowan Marshall (fwd)
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Mitchell (mid) / Dangerfield (fwd)
 
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What is the best option for flexibility and value:

Dangerfield (mid) / Rowan Marshall (fwd)
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Mitchell (mid) / Dangerfield (fwd)
Mitchell/Danger will be for me. If I am struggling for choice in mids for no.4/5 position and need to save a $100k, then I would consider Danger mids and picking another fwd. This is putting players such as Heppell to the side for now.
 
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I omitted Rowan Marshall and brought in Dangerfield from the midfield.

I have chosen expensive rookies, as I expect the higher draft choices too get a better opportunity to play earlier on (easier to downgrade than upgrade) which results in 11 premium players.

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I think Rowell and Cunnington are reasonable midpriced picks.
+1.
Yeo/Taranto very juicy prices aswell
I would highly advise against Cunnington and fail to see any value in the selection.

Has never recorded a Time on Ground Percentage at or above 80%.
Career high TOG% of 78.5% in 2019.
Poor kick to handball ratio.
Doesn't accumulate enough of the ball to be relevant or worthy of selection in SC.
His best season of his career only translated to a 102 avg (2019).
Only averaged 110.54 pre byes in 2019 for his career best form.
Inconsistent and prone to record many scores below 80.
Emerging young group of midfielders at North Melbourne doesn't bode well for his prospects.

The absolute maximum and best case scenario for Cunnington is an average between 100-103. The likely situation will involve him averaging low to mid 90's and with other holes to fix throughout the season you do not want to be stuck with him at M6-M8 etc.
 
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