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Position SC 2021: Defender Discussion
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Howe has always been a 100+ guy when he's fit playing the intercept role. He had a couple of seasons where he got stuck in a KPD role before Moore and Roughy and then he would constantly get injured and play through them, ankles are what spring to my mind the most. Last year though was just a hot patch like he's always been capable, he'll have games he has to be more accountable.
Basically he's SC porn, contested marks galore, elite kicking, takes kick-outs and run and carry. Do think that faster ball movement is a double edged sword for him, less intercept opportunities which are his biggest bonus but he's also their designated kicker (as much as they have one) so he'll get more chances.
The Pies have also become a very defensive possession oriented team over the past couple of years as you can see from Crisp, Maynard, Langdon et al's scoring, Howe unfortunately played hurt and underdone all season and didn't really get into it but last year we saw what he can do.
Still think he's more of a low 100s guy though which given his durability issues makes a questionable value proposition.
Basically he's SC porn, contested marks galore, elite kicking, takes kick-outs and run and carry. Do think that faster ball movement is a double edged sword for him, less intercept opportunities which are his biggest bonus but he's also their designated kicker (as much as they have one) so he'll get more chances.
The Pies have also become a very defensive possession oriented team over the past couple of years as you can see from Crisp, Maynard, Langdon et al's scoring, Howe unfortunately played hurt and underdone all season and didn't really get into it but last year we saw what he can do.
Still think he's more of a low 100s guy though which given his durability issues makes a questionable value proposition.
About 50% of them from what I saw. Lloyd still took a decent share and Ling/Campbell both capable. Rampe will also steal a few here and there when he plays.
More important though is that he was playing in defense where I expect he'll be the primary interceptor replacing Mills. He's scored very well playing as the 2nd interceptor behind Mills in the past couple of years and I think should be even better as the main guy.
Biggest issue is his positional versatility, even when he finished 2019 on fire playing off HB and then started 2020 well also he still got moved to just about every position on the field last year before essentially bombing out of most of them to end up back in defense at the end.
I think he's definitely in the mix though in that role, has basically sustained high 90s over almost a season's worth of games across the last two years in the role, shame he's been pretty ordinary across other roles (especially from a SC perspective).
More important though is that he was playing in defense where I expect he'll be the primary interceptor replacing Mills. He's scored very well playing as the 2nd interceptor behind Mills in the past couple of years and I think should be even better as the main guy.
Biggest issue is his positional versatility, even when he finished 2019 on fire playing off HB and then started 2020 well also he still got moved to just about every position on the field last year before essentially bombing out of most of them to end up back in defense at the end.
I think he's definitely in the mix though in that role, has basically sustained high 90s over almost a season's worth of games across the last two years in the role, shame he's been pretty ordinary across other roles (especially from a SC perspective).
Would you look at that, I’d just come in here to talk about Dawson. Seeing lots of big bombs up the middle from kick ins so far.
I’ve probably been Dawson’s number one fan on this site the last few years and Ill be back again to pump him up after their game this week if he’s taking significant kick ins, that left foot was made for this sort of game style
I’ve probably been Dawson’s number one fan on this site the last few years and Ill be back again to pump him up after their game this week if he’s taking significant kick ins, that left foot was made for this sort of game style
This was basically my thinking (the parts in favour of keeping him).
Obviously it could be enough to justify making a change, but if Williams is a 100 player and D7 is a 50 player, it’s only a 50 point swing across the whole season. Williams’ role seems to be pretty favourable and he even seems to have played well when forward.
I was very reluctant to put him in, but his role, scoring, and better durability than I thought now have me thinking he may be worth keeping despite potentially losing round 1.
The certainty of the duration of a suspension, and the fact it has no impact on his ability to score when he returns, mean that I think it’s potentially a different situation.
Not yet decided, but I’m inclined to leave him in.
Obviously it could be enough to justify making a change, but if Williams is a 100 player and D7 is a 50 player, it’s only a 50 point swing across the whole season. Williams’ role seems to be pretty favourable and he even seems to have played well when forward.
I was very reluctant to put him in, but his role, scoring, and better durability than I thought now have me thinking he may be worth keeping despite potentially losing round 1.
The certainty of the duration of a suspension, and the fact it has no impact on his ability to score when he returns, mean that I think it’s potentially a different situation.
Not yet decided, but I’m inclined to leave him in.
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Would you look at that, I’d just come in here to talk about Dawson. Seeing lots of big bombs up the middle from kick ins so far.
I’ve probably been Dawson’s number one fan on this site the last few years and Ill be back again to pump him up after their game this week if he’s taking significant kick ins, that left foot was made for this sort of game style
I’ve probably been Dawson’s number one fan on this site the last few years and Ill be back again to pump him up after their game this week if he’s taking significant kick ins, that left foot was made for this sort of game style
My team is getting taken over by the bloods.
Didn't watch most of the game, but looking back at the scores, had 8 touches to halftime, with 4 clangers, 16 touches at 3qt with 6 clangers, ended with 24 touches and 10 clangers for a 46, so that would explain the low score, unfortunately can't shed any light as to whether the clangers were unforced or not. I'll go back to the tape and have a quick look.
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Pettracca is a definite no from me, one year of premium scoring in a season/scoring system like nothing we've previous seen. Last year suited him 100 times over with shorter games, not saying he won't be at the pointy end but there's better option that are cheaper IMO.
Oliver will likely have the same input as every other year, but again there are others I like better that may be more suited to the new rules.
Oliver will likely have the same input as every other year, but again there are others I like better that may be more suited to the new rules.
