Discussion 2021: Round 1: Teams & In Game Discussion
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Clark's best attribute is a proven ability to put up a big score, plenty of 80+ in that first season and the monster preseason game. Very capable of a price spike even if his average does end up well below what's needed.
I still don't love him as a pick though, I really rate him as a player but it's clear Scott has some serious issues with him because he's played a lot of very limited players instead of him over the past 2 years and the truth is that at his positions that he has shown ability in they're quite strong. Stewart is a stud but I would argue the rest of their back flanks are the limited guys but Tuohy, Higgins, Smith, Duncan and Menegola is a pretty serious group or wingers he has to beat out.
Clark's the textbook all or nothing, he's going to either be averaging 85 or not playing in round 4 because he's going to have to win his spot every week early in the season. Definitely capable of it but at that price I don't really like that risk factor.
Disagree entirely with this theory. This would only be a good point if you lost the cash for not spending it but that's not the case. Otherwise you're better off every single time taking the 150k from Murray and just keeping the other 140k in the bank to bank to have 390k for the next player instead of 350k and if you did spend that 140k fairly you'd have more points on the field playing Murray than Clark to boot so there's just no case for Clark in this scenario outside of "no one else exists" which seems at least unlikely. Basically your theory is to put an extra 140k at risk for a reduced return.
Clark is a cash cow, plain and simple and his peers are the rookies, I'd question why anyone would be giving up cash generation and points on the field to pick him if they don't think he's going to at least match the rookies. To be fair I can totally buy a keeper narrative on Clark, I rate him that highly, and that would change the reason for picking him but I do think it's a very long shot, at his price he probably only needs 93+ though.
I still don't love him as a pick though, I really rate him as a player but it's clear Scott has some serious issues with him because he's played a lot of very limited players instead of him over the past 2 years and the truth is that at his positions that he has shown ability in they're quite strong. Stewart is a stud but I would argue the rest of their back flanks are the limited guys but Tuohy, Higgins, Smith, Duncan and Menegola is a pretty serious group or wingers he has to beat out.
Clark's the textbook all or nothing, he's going to either be averaging 85 or not playing in round 4 because he's going to have to win his spot every week early in the season. Definitely capable of it but at that price I don't really like that risk factor.
Disagree entirely with this theory. This would only be a good point if you lost the cash for not spending it but that's not the case. Otherwise you're better off every single time taking the 150k from Murray and just keeping the other 140k in the bank to bank to have 390k for the next player instead of 350k and if you did spend that 140k fairly you'd have more points on the field playing Murray than Clark to boot so there's just no case for Clark in this scenario outside of "no one else exists" which seems at least unlikely. Basically your theory is to put an extra 140k at risk for a reduced return.
Clark is a cash cow, plain and simple and his peers are the rookies, I'd question why anyone would be giving up cash generation and points on the field to pick him if they don't think he's going to at least match the rookies. To be fair I can totally buy a keeper narrative on Clark, I rate him that highly, and that would change the reason for picking him but I do think it's a very long shot, at his price he probably only needs 93+ though.
I guess everyone reads things differently...
I see a puff piece that confirms he missed two months of the preseason and has literally no empirical evidence to support his feelings that he's fit this year. If he'd said he'd run personal bests despite it, yeah, I'm buying but that's the equivalent of someone saying "yeah I feel like it was a cold January" when there is empirical evidence available to confirm it one way or the other, you don't use feelings when you know the actual answer with facts unless the facts don't support your feelings...
Yeah, I'm hunting justification for why he's not in my side again after getting torched for a couple of years
but seriously, that's genuinely how I read an article like that, I'm a skeptic at heart and to me the things that people don't say often say a lot more than what they do.
I see a puff piece that confirms he missed two months of the preseason and has literally no empirical evidence to support his feelings that he's fit this year. If he'd said he'd run personal bests despite it, yeah, I'm buying but that's the equivalent of someone saying "yeah I feel like it was a cold January" when there is empirical evidence available to confirm it one way or the other, you don't use feelings when you know the actual answer with facts unless the facts don't support your feelings...
Yeah, I'm hunting justification for why he's not in my side again after getting torched for a couple of years
but seriously, that's genuinely how I read an article like that, I'm a skeptic at heart and to me the things that people don't say often say a lot more than what they do.He's a textbook wait and see for me. As someone who has had minor shoulder surgery before that puts you out for 6 weeks they're surprisingly hurtful to conditioning because as much as "you can still use your legs" you really can't.
His is a lot more severe than what I had done and I couldn't run or do rigourous exercise for the best part of 4 weeks and you lose a lot of strength in the process.
Throw in the rate of recurrence and that's he clearly rushing back underdone and it's a perfect storm of things I don't want in a premium pick.
He's right up there on my upgrade target list though.
His is a lot more severe than what I had done and I couldn't run or do rigourous exercise for the best part of 4 weeks and you lose a lot of strength in the process.
Throw in the rate of recurrence and that's he clearly rushing back underdone and it's a perfect storm of things I don't want in a premium pick.
He's right up there on my upgrade target list though.
I guess everyone reads things differently...
I see a puff piece that confirms he missed two months of the preseason and has literally no empirical evidence to support his feelings that he's fit this year. If he'd said he'd run personal bests despite it, yeah, I'm buying but that's the equivalent of someone saying "yeah I feel like it was a cold January" when there is empirical evidence available to confirm it one way or the other, you don't use feelings when you know the actual answer with facts unless the facts don't support your feelings...
Yeah, I'm hunting justification for why he's not in my side again after getting torched for a couple of years but seriously, that's genuinely how I read an article like that, I'm a skeptic at heart and to me the things that people don't say often say a lot more than what they do.
I see a puff piece that confirms he missed two months of the preseason and has literally no empirical evidence to support his feelings that he's fit this year. If he'd said he'd run personal bests despite it, yeah, I'm buying but that's the equivalent of someone saying "yeah I feel like it was a cold January" when there is empirical evidence available to confirm it one way or the other, you don't use feelings when you know the actual answer with facts unless the facts don't support your feelings...
Yeah, I'm hunting justification for why he's not in my side again after getting torched for a couple of years
but seriously, that's genuinely how I read an article like that, I'm a skeptic at heart and to me the things that people don't say often say a lot more than what they do.
