Yeah, It's much harder for us ''ruck rookie guys'' with the team announcements this year as we were already taking a risk. Pretty much everything for us hangs on Meek playing for 6-8 weeks I think. We definitely need to have plan B's and C's ready. Lets hope we get earlier than game day confirmation on Meek for Sunday, think he will score much better vs Flynn than Hunter did.
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*with 5 years of development under the guidance of and going against a pretty solid AFL-standard ruckman at training every week under his belt...
People have to remember that Hunter was a failed mature-age rookie who didn't show much at AFL level and while he was "dominant" at SANFL level it is a much lower standard of competition for a ruckman (despite all the equivalent SC scoring "hype").
I actually didn't think he'd gone that badly and am confused by the switch to McKernan, which was the catalyst for Flynn's second-half explosion.
From what I observed watching the game (Hunter) might not have been winning a lot of the taps, but Flynn wasn't winning them clearly or getting the easy HTA's that McKernan was gifting him either and both ruckman had a similar impact around the ground to half time.
People have to remember that Hunter was a failed mature-age rookie who didn't show much at AFL level and while he was "dominant" at SANFL level it is a much lower standard of competition for a ruckman (despite all the equivalent SC scoring "hype").
I actually didn't think he'd gone that badly and am confused by the switch to McKernan, which was the catalyst for Flynn's second-half explosion.
From what I observed watching the game (Hunter) might not have been winning a lot of the taps, but Flynn wasn't winning them clearly or getting the easy HTA's that McKernan was gifting him either and both ruckman had a similar impact around the ground to half time.
I think there was a quote from Ratten somewhere that said they were worried about Hunter's tank in his first game at AFL level. So better to have McKernan at least make it to each contest than your main ruck be so gassed that he can't even nominate.
But just something I -think- I've read on this site somewhere.
But just something I -think- I've read on this site somewhere.
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Yeah that was the only thing I could think of and I think I too have raised the possibility of Hunter being a bit gassed maybe. Still he was off for almost the entire second half when the game was on the line and McKernan was downright horrible in the ruck, so it was still a head-scratcher for mine.
McDonald isn't an academy product. Drafted from WA where he was playing senior footy last year and dominating (finished second in the WAFL Coleman equivalent).
He does look good but I'd like to see him back it up against some form of competition (Brisbane were so bad!) and with Buddy in the team. Young KP guys have always struggled and while he looks pretty special I don't think he's likely to be the only exception to that rule!
I think he's a bit more advanced than King but wouldn't expect significantly different scoring from him. Saints being a better team probably cancels out the advancement.
I also wouldn't expect Gulden to score like that every week and would like to see him with Buddy there and some competition also, though I do think he's an exceptional prospect but I still think there are role concerns. Actually reminds me quite a bit of Papley's debut oh so many years ago now. I'd be surprised if he isn't something closer to 65 when it's all said and done given the role and expected team strength, I really hope I'm wrong on both fronts though
He does look good but I'd like to see him back it up against some form of competition (Brisbane were so bad!) and with Buddy in the team. Young KP guys have always struggled and while he looks pretty special I don't think he's likely to be the only exception to that rule!
I think he's a bit more advanced than King but wouldn't expect significantly different scoring from him. Saints being a better team probably cancels out the advancement.
I also wouldn't expect Gulden to score like that every week and would like to see him with Buddy there and some competition also, though I do think he's an exceptional prospect but I still think there are role concerns. Actually reminds me quite a bit of Papley's debut oh so many years ago now. I'd be surprised if he isn't something closer to 65 when it's all said and done given the role and expected team strength, I really hope I'm wrong on both fronts though
McDonald isn't an academy product. Drafted from WA where he was playing senior footy last year and dominating (finished second in the WAFL Coleman equivalent).
He does look good but I'd like to see him back it up against some form of competition (Brisbane were so bad!) and with Buddy in the team. Young KP guys have always struggled and while he looks pretty special I don't think he's likely to be the only exception to that rule!
I think he's a bit more advanced than King but wouldn't expect significantly different scoring from him. Saints being a better team probably cancels out the advancement.
I also wouldn't expect Gulden to score like that every week and would like to see him with Buddy there and some competition also, though I do think he's an exceptional prospect but I still think there are role concerns. Actually reminds me quite a bit of Papley's debut oh so many years ago now. I'd be surprised if he isn't something closer to 65 when it's all said and done given the role and expected team strength, I really hope I'm wrong on both fronts though
He does look good but I'd like to see him back it up against some form of competition (Brisbane were so bad!) and with Buddy in the team. Young KP guys have always struggled and while he looks pretty special I don't think he's likely to be the only exception to that rule!
I think he's a bit more advanced than King but wouldn't expect significantly different scoring from him. Saints being a better team probably cancels out the advancement.
I also wouldn't expect Gulden to score like that every week and would like to see him with Buddy there and some competition also, though I do think he's an exceptional prospect but I still think there are role concerns. Actually reminds me quite a bit of Papley's debut oh so many years ago now. I'd be surprised if he isn't something closer to 65 when it's all said and done given the role and expected team strength, I really hope I'm wrong on both fronts though
Not expecting Gulden to reach the heights of RD1 but he will still start on the field this week. Hope he can keep his place in the team.
Will be great to see Buddy grace the Footy Field in RD2. I Do hope the Legend can stay fit and kick a few.
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At the moment he has played 1 game , scored 88 so very much on the watch list for mine to see what he scores in Round 2.
Have 5 mid eligible players in my team who scored 50's , no which score I would prefer.
Don't really like to compare to similar type players in the past (think we can get too caught up in comparisons).
Buddy may hinder him or actually help him if all the attention is on Buddy.
Have 5 mid eligible players in my team who scored 50's , no which score I would prefer.
Don't really like to compare to similar type players in the past (think we can get too caught up in comparisons).
Buddy may hinder him or actually help him if all the attention is on Buddy.
Correct, they're both academy boys, best mates as well.
Watching Gulden it wouldn't surprise me if he ends up in the Zerrett/Titch type of player long term, just has that same craft and ability to pop up everywhere.
Flynn was actually still scoring on the bench due to how well he'd played.
Hunter was on the field but not rucking, not a shock that a pretty pure ruckman, playing FP, in the wet is going to score very poorly.
The question is why was he not rucking and will it be ongoing. The only real positive is that McKernan was so bad in the ruck that Flynn scored that 87 on him...
Watching Gulden it wouldn't surprise me if he ends up in the Zerrett/Titch type of player long term, just has that same craft and ability to pop up everywhere.
His time off was well spent then
Second half SC scores: Flynn 87, Hunter 7.
Second half SC scores: Flynn 87, Hunter 7.
Hunter was on the field but not rucking, not a shock that a pretty pure ruckman, playing FP, in the wet is going to score very poorly.
The question is why was he not rucking and will it be ongoing. The only real positive is that McKernan was so bad in the ruck that Flynn scored that 87 on him...
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Phew had a massive week and only just coming back.
Gawflyn owner myself and I say I'm a pretty good chance to move Gawn on, Fullerton to R3 and putting all eggs on Flynn + Meek.
Allows a mini restructure this week and next week again with more info.
At worse, next week I use the cash sitting around from Gawn (won't be able to use it all at once cause I started Danger) to bring in Hickey/Stef possibly on a nice bubble
At best, Fleek do well and Rd 3 gives me a chance to put cash on-top of a Dow or Impey and get another premo - say Zorko over Impey or Short over Dow.
Pretty appealing. If that structure does work out could be a real catalyst for rank and worth the 4 trades (if you also have the right rooks)
Now's the time to burn trades if you can get em right
Gawflyn owner myself and I say I'm a pretty good chance to move Gawn on, Fullerton to R3 and putting all eggs on Flynn + Meek.
Allows a mini restructure this week and next week again with more info.
At worse, next week I use the cash sitting around from Gawn (won't be able to use it all at once cause I started Danger) to bring in Hickey/Stef possibly on a nice bubble
At best, Fleek do well and Rd 3 gives me a chance to put cash on-top of a Dow or Impey and get another premo - say Zorko over Impey or Short over Dow.
Pretty appealing. If that structure does work out could be a real catalyst for rank and worth the 4 trades (if you also have the right rooks)
Now's the time to burn trades if you can get em right
