Position SC 2021: Defender Discussion

[BlufBlufShuv]

Lol, just took a peek myself.
Geary and Webster?

Can't see it myself: Howard is playing fullback and it really does make sense for him to have the role long term. Geary broke his leg not that long back and realistically could be 6 weeks away from playing if not longer, Webster didn't kick in at all on the weekend and now has a broken jaw.

Edit: his scoring actually does match the number of kicks he had, which is itself tied to how inaccurate the opposition is, ie the number of kick ins he has. The Dees had 19 points on the weekend, Howard had 23 kicks: the week before the Giants kicked 12 points and thus Howard only had 15 kicks. The difference between the two weeks in terms of supercoach points, 99 points for the Giants game, 133 points for the Demons game. So my take that his ceiling is from his intercept marking wasn't true. Its the intercepts (given he's not really a link up player) plus the accuracy/inaccuracy of the opposition. He had 8 marks on the weekend compared to one the week before.

 

[bloke]

I haven't watched the Eagles this year, what's everyone's opinions of Duggan? It looks like his DE is poor, is it something he can turn around?

 

[warewolves]

After Round 2 by Average

Only 5 cost $ 500k +

Ridley 130.5
Bowes 130
Mills 123.5
Houston 119
Moore , D 118.5
Hurn 117.5
Howard 116
Laird 111.5
Lloyd 111
Short 110

Darcy Moore is the one I like - he seems to have stepped up this year and I can’t see why he won’t score near that level most weeks. 🤞🤞 for his hammies.

 

[Herbie66]

Darcy Moore is the one I like - he seems to have stepped up this year and I can’t see why he won’t score near that level most weeks. 🤞🤞 for his hammies.

Plays 22 games he wins the Brownlow 😀

yes he is that good

the hammies are the big concern

It's certainly a interesting list after 2 Rounds , especially for those who have started 5-6 premium deep.

I liked Bowes late last season so interested to see how he goes this year.

 

[Montyjnr]

I have him but I'm really now not sure if he's top 6 D by seasons end. Guys like Ridley et al have the intercept marking thing going on that likely put them a tier above Daniel.

Stewart has the intercept marking thing going and was barely a tier above Daniher on the weekend....

 

[BlufBlufShuv]

Stewart has the intercept marking thing going and was barely a tier above Daniher on the weekend....

83 is probably Stewart's floor, another who is "safe" because he dominates kick ins.

 

[Montyjnr]

83 is probably Stewart's floor, another who is "safe" because he dominates kick ins.

He didn’t dominate kick ins on Friday night if you watched it....

 

[BlufBlufShuv]

He didn’t dominate kick ins on Friday night if you watched it....

I'm rewatching it now, nearly through the first half. Stewart, Atkins and Henderson have taken kick ins so far, Stewart the most by my count.

 

[Montyjnr]

I'm rewatching it now, nearly through the first half. Stewart, Atkins and Henderson have taken kick ins so far, Stewart the most by my count.

He was no Ridley...

 

[BlufBlufShuv]

He was no Ridley...
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I'm not really sure what point you are trying to make (FYI I got Atkins and Clark mixed up), I don't have Stewart and have no plan to get him in, but there's no doubt he's a "safe" pick, one reason being he gets to kick the ball out more than other Cats players. That's what the word "dominate" means in the context I used it.

 

[freowho]

83 is probably Stewart's floor, another who is "safe" because he dominates kick ins.

It's almost gotten to the point where you don't have to watch a game to play supercoach. Just pick players who are high in CBA's or kick ins.

 

[BlufBlufShuv]

It's almost gotten to the point where you don't have to watch a game to play supercoach. Just pick players who are high in CBA's or kick ins.

No doubt, if you compare some of the scores from previous years to this year for certain players there's a big difference, and the kick-ins/CBAs seem to be the major factors.

 

[Montyjnr]

I'm not really sure what point you are trying to make (FYI I got Atkins and Clark mixed up), I don't have Stewart and have no plan to get him in, but there's no doubt he's a "safe" pick, one reason being he gets to kick the ball out more than other Cats players. That's what the word "dominate" means in the context I used it.

Ah ok I see what you mean.

I see dominating as hogging all the kick ins. Stewart only took 35% of Geelong’s on Friday, which is hardly a domination by my definition.

In comparison, Ridley took 91% of Essendon’s kick ins.

 

[jaca]

It's almost gotten to the point where you don't have to watch a game to play supercoach. Just pick players who are high in CBA's or kick ins.

Ahem.

 

[manyproblems]

I have him but I'm really now not sure if he's top 6 D by seasons end. Guys like Ridley et al have the intercept marking thing going on that likely put them a tier above Daniel.

I'm every chance to boot daniel for ridley next round, want to see another round from both. They are using Duryea and Williams a lot though HB. Its a lot to do with Ridley getting 90% of kickouts (teams have been accurate vs Dons so far as well), 100% TOG and natural improvement, he is going to moon to 650k at this rate. I have some recency bias though, Daniel was just terrible on the weekend offensively and defensively, 2 contested possession and spent the entire game running to space trying to get a receive. With the ball coming in so quick and often this year he's not doing anything to help that, relies on getting the ball from his teammates.

 

[Rumbler]

Could be a hard question to answer but what would Short's scoring be like when Houli comes back in? Would it drop down significantly (i.e. average of 90ish?).
Maybe the Tigers' fans on here could give a bit more of an insight

 

[Tranterpants]

Morning all,
What’s thoughts on Howe?! Practice Match he looked to be going well with scoring but last 2 games have been a drag to even score what he has?!
Do we see upside or time to correct?!

 

[Tranterpants]

He is in my team & I like him for a number of reasons - he is an elite kick so Freo will look to get the ball into his hands as much as possible/ role is as a rebounding half back but he is also strong defensively. He is sharing the kicking in duties with Luke Ryan, they would be Freo's best 2 kicks in the back half.

Here are his stats from round 1(love that kick to handball ratio ) & his heat map:-

Appreciate the good detail! Certainly a lot of appeal from both a scoring and JS perspective over the rookie crop.

First game all year I’ve watched fully was FREO v GWS (jeez GWS look stinky!) and he looks settled in that position, however, he did have a fair fee clangers (from what I saw) that stopped him from going mid-80s+ and therefore my concern with him is if he hits another 60 then cash production basically stops?!
However, not much more to replace him with other than flipping a Laird back, sideways to CJ (if think he has more upside with Day now out) or finding some extra cash to get him to Moore???

Interested on others’ thoughts?!

 

[AngryAnt]

Stewart has the intercept marking thing going and was barely a tier above Daniher on the weekend....

Stewart was benched for large parts of the last quarter for some inexplicable reason. He also dropped an intercept mark with seconds left in the game which would have gotten him some big points. Not playing much in the last quarter is a bit concerning. Still scored 83 from a poor game with his disposal and 5 clangers so it's not the worst score considering the game he had.

 

[BlufBlufShuv]

I'm every chance to boot daniel for ridley next round, want to see another round from both. They are using Duryea and Williams a lot though HB. Its a lot to do with Ridley getting 90% of kickouts (teams have been accurate vs Dons so far as well), 100% TOG and natural improvement, he is going to moon to 650k at this rate. I have some recency bias though, Daniel was just terrible on the weekend offensively and defensively, 2 contested possession and spent the entire game running to space trying to get a receive. With the ball coming in so quick and often this year he's not doing anything to help that, relies on getting the ball from his teammates.

I think its a good idea to see another round re: Ridley, Caleb. I think whatever happens from here there will be a LOT of good scoring options in the backline and the better teams will not overspend on defenders.