Strategy Round 4: Trades

[Quasimodo]

Because this option locks in 4 trades, 2 now plus 2 in the future, while Lloyd & Chapman is only 3. Sideways trading now means you will end up short of 22 premiums come seasons end.

Are we sure that Impey is not a keeper though?? Has a great role and playing fantastic footy. Even if he only scores 85-90 from here he wouldn't be the worst F6/7 going around. Also an excellent onfield option if you're having to field say a Rowe, Scott, Jones or Brockman instead.

Also I'm holding off rushing to get Lloyd in for both DT and AF (own him in SC). The Swans new game style isn't really lending itself to Lloyd having massive games. Not only reduced kick-ins but less round the back cheapies and switching across the flanks with the Swans playing a more direct brand of footy.

In fact the Doctor Supercoach crew had a whole segment on today's podcast advising their listeners to wait on Lloyd as they believe he could have a 70pt game in him that would see him plunge below $600K. It's just not the same old Swans nor the same old Lloyd, although others may disagree. It's just an opinion's business after all and so far he has scored well enough for his top pricing.

 

[Spifflicator]

With Waterman, Parks, Robertson and Burgess all likely to be potential trade in options next week before their price rise, is it worth going early on any of them? If so, which one do we think carries the least risk going early on?

Waterman will probably struggle to score 80s very often given his role in a side that will most likely struggle this year, but he is a mature ager he could play fairly consistently.

Parks played well on debut and could have a spike game given his ability to intercept, however does Marchbank push him out of the side?

Robertson is priced at a premium but probably has the best scoring potential of the lot. I guess job security is the biggest question mark.

Burgess could be anything for the next few weeks. He could score 100s or 20s, nobody knows. I guess he has solid job security but at 210k it could end up being a problem.

I personally would say Robertson and Waterman would be the safest options to go early on but I'd love to here some other thoughts.

I wouldn't be going early on any of them. Job security is questionable for them all, Waterman could just as easily score a 20 next week, I agree with Robertson looking promising, but if Berry is back will he even get named? Burgess is expensive, and way too risky given we have no idea how a 191cm ruckman will score. Lastly Carlton defenders are all over the shop SC wise from week to week, so apart from his JS questions Parks is not a compelling option. After this week the picture will be clearer, but I doubt that more than 2 (if even that many) will end up as a serious option.

 

[NT.Thunder]

Are we sure that Impey is not a keeper though?? Has a great role and even if he only scores 85-90 from here he wouldn't be the worst F6/7 going around. Also an excellent onfield option if you're having to field say a Rowe or Brockman instead.

Also I'm holding off rushing to get Lloyd in for both DT and AF (own him in SC). The Swans new game style isn't really lending itself to Lloyd having massive games. Not only reduced kick-ins but less round the back cheapies and switching across the flanks with the Swans playing a more direct brand of footy.

In fact the Doctor Supercoach crew had a whole section on today's podcast advising their listeners to wait on Lloyd as they believe he could have a 70pt game in him that would see him plunge below $600K. It's just not the same old Swans nor the same old Lloyd, although others may disagree. It's just an opinion's business after all and so far he has scored well enough for his top pricing.

Any reason impey scored poorly round #1, can see his DE was down and had 5 clangers in their only win this season so far.

Others that are also interesting include Jiath and Cumming who are both in that same price range and scoring well also.

 

[whiteTiga2k]

Any reason impey scored poorly round #1, can see his DE was down and had 5 clangers in their only win this season so far.

Others that are also interesting include Jiath and Cumming who are both in that same price range and scoring well also.

Actually really surprised he scored so badly - he played well and always takes intercept marks. I love him as a player - but no idea why he scored so badly.

 

[TommyGobbler]

Any reason impey scored poorly round #1, can see his DE was down and had 5 clangers in their only win this season so far.

Others that are also interesting include Jiath and Cumming who are both in that same price range and scoring well also.

Yeah Impey had 8 turnovers Round 1. Still scored 74 DT so might have just been a bad game.

Personally I prefer Impey over the 2 defenders because he has more potential to be a keeper. The forward line is pretty shallow so he could potentially fill F6 if he can average 90-95. Top 6-8 defenders look harder to crack so I'd be guessing Jiath and Cumming would need to be traded out at some point. They are awkwardly priced too so won't make enough money to justify the trade IMO.

 

[Quasimodo]

Any reason impey scored poorly round #1, can see his DE was down and had 5 clangers in their only win this season so far.

Others that are also interesting include Jiath and Cumming who are both in that same price range and scoring well also.

Sorry I have to confess I didn't watch Impey in the opening game. Was instead watching my Swans touch up the Lions which was on at the same time I believe. A 64 is not exactly a disaster for a sub $300K player. That's about what Clary scored this week.

I agree that both CJ and Cumming look enticing options albeit a little more expensive than the Imp. It's also pretty hard to argue that they will be anything close to D6 material with our super loaded DEF lines. But again they could present as excellent onfield options in the short term and a stepping stone until you find that perfect sideways to a fallen premo. I'm actually bringing in Cumming in AF this week (for Young) and CJ is a pure excitement machine that could be fun to own.

 

[BIGB0Y]

Is Phillips to walker a sideways trade?

 

[Shaunpro1]

With Waterman, Parks, Robertson and Burgess all likely to be potential trade in options next week before their price rise, is it worth going early on any of them? If so, which one do we think carries the least risk going early on?

Waterman will probably struggle to score 80s very often given his role in a side that will most likely struggle this year, but he is a mature ager he could play fairly consistently.

Parks played well on debut and could have a spike game given his ability to intercept, however does Marchbank push him out of the side?

Robertson is priced at a premium but probably has the best scoring potential of the lot. I guess job security is the biggest question mark.

Burgess could be anything for the next few weeks. He could score 100s or 20s, nobody knows. I guess he has solid job security but at 210k it could end up being a problem.


I personally would say Robertson and Waterman would be the safest options to go early on but I'd love to here some other thoughts.

Robertson has Berry to return so not sure on long term JS, Marchbank is a better footballer than Parks so think he'll also struggle to hold, Burgess could be anything but think theres too much role uncertainty to play 200K plus (does Graham play, Smith rushed back in 3-4 stifling cash gen etc.) Waterman is the only one I'm convinced on JS wise and his scoring could very easily fluctuate they won't dominate like that every week wouldnt go early on any of them IMHO.

 

[Shaunpro1]

Closer we get to Round 4 the more I think I'll just go Neale-Ridley, one less headache every weekend.

 

[AngryAnt]

Actually really surprised he scored so badly - he played well and always takes intercept marks. I love him as a player - but no idea why he scored so badly.

He was on something like 32 at quarter time in round one and didn't do much in the second quarter. Didn't really use the ball well either. I think his last game against Geelong was his most complete game, was also being used as the first short option on many occasions from the kick ins. With Day out for a bit he looks like an even better proposition than before.

 

[Creeker]

As much as want Ridley in my team, I think I will hold this week.
Actually pretty happy with my squad, just missing premo Ridley, and cash cow Warner.
As I said, I'd love Ridley in there at the moment, but you can't have em all at this stage.
It's hold, hold. hold from me. Prefer to sit on 27 trades.

week 1. Danger to Titchell

week 2. Phillips to Tex, and Taranto to Dunkley.

 

[Quasimodo]

Is Phillips to walker a sideways trade?

The answer is yes.

The real question is it a good or bad sideways trade? As a non Tex owner in any format I'll be clenching my teeth (and everything else) when he trots out against the Wretched Roos who Brucey just kicked 10 on.

He's just in insane form right now and the Crows upcoming draw is very favourable indeed. I moved on Phillips for Ridley last week and that worked out well so far. Others may choose to conserve trades and back Phillips in although I personally feel we his owners were a little duped in the preseason. So I was ok moving him on for what I saw as a much better SC option in the Riddler at the cost of a trade and some bank.

Unfortunately I have other issues to attend to with the Young injury so I will just be a passive bystander (and not an investor) when it comes to Tex watch. But geez I hope he doesn't keep busting out these megatons!

 

[whiteTiga2k]

He was on something like 32 at quarter time in round one and didn't do much in the second quarter. Didn't really use the ball well either. I think his last game against Geelong was his most complete game, was also being used as the first short option on many occasions from the kick ins. With Day out for a bit he looks like an even better proposition than before.

Probably not the place to say it - but really missed Day's accurate kick out of the backline - he has been a great substitute for Sicily. Found it hard getting out of the backline at times.

 

[Bones]

Yeah Impey had 8 turnovers Round 1. Still scored 74 DT so might have just been a bad game.

Personally I prefer Impey over the 2 defenders because he has more potential to be a keeper. The forward line is pretty shallow so he could potentially fill F6 if he can average 90-95. Top 6-8 defenders look harder to crack so I'd be guessing Jiath and Cumming would need to be traded out at some point. They are awkwardly priced too so won't make enough money to justify the trade IMO.

Agree with this. Impey has a much lower bar to clear and I've considered trading out Rowe to him for cash gen and points on field, but Rowe will make $150k by the byes even scoring 54 per week so, as much as I'm doing my FOMO thing, I think I need to show a little restraint.

 

[NT.Thunder]

Yeah Impey had 8 turnovers Round 1. Still scored 74 DT so might have just been a bad game.

Personally I prefer Impey over the 2 defenders because he has more potential to be a keeper. The forward line is pretty shallow so he could potentially fill F6 if he can average 90-95. Top 6-8 defenders look harder to crack so I'd be guessing Jiath and Cumming would need to be traded out at some point. They are awkwardly priced too so won't make enough money to justify the trade IMO.

Sorry I have to confess I didn't watch Impey in the opening game. Was instead watching my Swans touch up the Lions which was on at the same time I believe. A 64 is not exactly a disaster for a sub $300K player. That's about what Clary scored this week.

I agree that both CJ and Cumming look enticing options albeit a little more expensive than the Imp. It's also pretty hard to argue that they will be anything close to D6 material with our super loaded DEF lines. But again they could present as excellent onfield options in the short term and a stepping stone until you find that perfect sideways to a fallen premo. I'm actually bringing in Cumming in AF this week (for Young) and CJ is a pure excitement machine that could be fun to own.

Both true, can only see 5 Clangers for Impey round 1 in the stats page so that's an extra 20SC point there so potentially could've been an 84 game.

Good points regarding defender lines and scoring options. I also only have one more position to fill which is being saved for SeaGull as I'm already running Ridley, Laird, Stewart, Daniel, Docherty and Clarke so balance says Impey forward would be a better move. I was really hoping to get Rowe off the field but can't do that and at this stage, barring Bergman I have all my forwards including rookies playing. Defenders with Kosi and Highmore could become problematic.

 

[TommyGobbler]

Agree with this. Impey has a much lower bar to clear and I've considered trading out Rowe to him for cash gen and points on field, but Rowe will make $150k by the byes even scoring 54 per week so, as much as I'm doing my FOMO thing, I think I need to show a little restraint.

I'm trading Rowe to Impey. Feels a bit sideways as I'm also trading Clark to facilitate the trade but I'm going for overall so being aggressive. I want cash gen and upgrades ASAP. Rowe will be a slow burn so happy to cut him now even though he will make money long term.

 

[gunslinga]

Hi, didnt take Jordon last week and now have Young to deal with. Thoughts on Young to Jordon vs Impey vs Chapman.
Have 80k in bank and ranked top 300...Am leaning towards Impey as it gets Laird to D5 and also lets me keep Rowe/Brockman off the field? Thoughts? Thanks a lot

 

[NT.Thunder]

I can do Brockman (mids) to Impey if he misses this week and move Campbell to mids should Bergman come back in and Rowe and Jones hold their spots. Trouble is I would need to do this tomorrow before the Swans lock out.

 

[BIGB0Y]

The answer is yes.

The real question is it a good or bad sideways trade? As a non Tex owner in any format I'll be clenching my teeth (and everything else) when he trots out against the Wretched Roos who Brucey just kicked 10 on.

He's just in insane form right now and the Crows upcoming draw is very favourable indeed. I moved on Phillips for Ridley last week and that worked out well so far. Others may choose to conserve trades and back Phillips in although I personally feel we his owners were a little duped in the preseason so was ok moving him on.

Unfortunately I have other issues to attend to with the Young injury so I will just be a passive bystander (and not an investor) when it comes to Tex watch. But geez I hope he doesn't keep busting out these megatons!

Would you prefer tex or impey?

 

[Connoisseur]

Hi, didnt take Jordon last week and now have Young to deal with. Thoughts on Young to Jordon vs Impey vs Chapman.
Have 80k in bank and ranked top 300...Am leaning towards Impey as it gets Laird to D5 and also lets me keep Rowe/Brockman off the field? Thoughts? Thanks a lot

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