Strategy Round 7: Trades

[whiteTiga2k]

Do I trade Clark or Gulden this week?

I really like the look of Clark if he can get a string of games. The issue with Clark is I need to commit to him to the byes I think to see it pay off given his bloody Emg Sub 13 last week. $#^%$%*^( Scott. However his D/M link with Laird offers some benefit as well trading down the track.
Of course managing the "Scott" factor is a total mess anyway. Bloody sure him and Horse laugh between themselves when they catch up and talk Supercoach coaches that they f**(ed over..

I traded Gulden out last week instead of Clark even when i knew Gulden was playing. It irritated me bad when Clark came on and freakin scored 13! Preferred he didn't play at all. I moved him to midfield so I still keep the link with Laird. I prefer it for now.

That being said... if he plays this week - which I don't really know if i want him to... he might drop more.

Might need to move him on. I don;t think he'll score 90+. Clearly not shown any ability to do that at all this year.

 

[whiteTiga2k]

I traded Gulden out last week instead of Clark even when i knew Gulden was playing. It irritated me bad when Clark came on and freakin scored 13! Preferred he didn't play at all. I moved him to midfield so I still keep the link with Laird. I prefer it for now.

That being said... if he plays this week - which I don't really know if i want him to... he might drop more.

Might need to move him on. I don;t think he'll score 90+. Clearly not shown any ability to do that at all this year.

While writing this, i actually thought of playing Laird in the midfield to cover Martin.

So chances are, I will be keeping Clark - especially if Highmore plays...

 

[Zimmer]

I guess team announcements will tell the tale, but as it stands:

1. Dunks > Gawn.
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2. Dunks & Gulden > Zorko & Marshall
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3. (Rookie cupboard is bare...)

 

[SuchIsLife]

Literally $300 off getting Oliver instead of Duncan/Guthrie. So annoying.

I'm not entirely sold on them either but there aren't many other options. Duncan has averaged 109 in the past and if you take out his injury-affected 13 last year he averaged 110. Don't see why he can't replicate that this year. I think Boak's last 3 weeks are more reflective of where he'll end up this year - 103-108. Treloar is building nicely I have to admit. I'd look at Lloyd but I already have a full backline. Forward options aren't inspiring - will wait for Marshall.

If you want to look at Boak's last 3 games, surely you expect him to average 110 - 115? That Richmond game appears to be an uncharacteristic outlier. Scored in the 80s, but disposals/DT in line with all other games, just had too many clangers.

 

[Deeman1]

I guess team announcements will tell the tale, but as it stands:

1. Dunks > Gawn.
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2. Dunks & Gulden > Zorko & Marshall
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3. (Rookie cupboard is bare...)

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Normally my advise would be get Gawn ASAP, but with 4 rookies in the forward line (yeah I know its only this week with Dusty out), but with 3 rookies on field even when Dusty returns, I think getting some of those forward rookies of field ASAP is hte better play.

As long as one of Campbell, Berry Brockman play I would go option 2.

As long as Flynn plays, I dont't think given the state of the forward line I don't think you can get Gawn.

If Campbell/Berry/Brockman don't play, are you able to do Dunkley/Campbell to Zorko/Brayshaw or something simliar (under the assumption Gulden plays)?

 

[whiteTiga2k]

If you want to look at Boak's last 3 games, surely you expect him to average 110 - 115? That Richmond game appears to be an uncharacteristic outlier. Scored in the 80s, but disposals/DT in line with all other games, just had too many clangers.

Rate Duncan as elite. Has been very consistent and hard to stop. Doesn't get tagged and can have huge games too.

 

[SuchIsLife]

Just came up with a plan to bring in Zorko, Sidebottom, Heeney, Ridley, Martin over 4 rounds. Have about $70-80k wiggle room just in case Ridley pumps out multiple 150s, fingers crossed...

 

[SuchIsLife]

I guess team announcements will tell the tale, but as it stands:

1. Dunks > Gawn.
v
2. Dunks & Gulden > Zorko & Marshall
v
3. (Rookie cupboard is bare...)

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I still don't think you can bring in Marshall without seeing how he works with Ryder this year. Saints delivery inside 50 is an unknown this year, and even last year I felt Marshall only scored well by making the most out of limited opportunities.

I say just bring in Gawn and forget about it.

 

[Zimmer]

Normally my advise would be get Gawn ASAP, but with 4 rookies in the forward line (yeah I know its only this week with Dusty out), but with 3 rookies on field even when Dusty returns, I think getting some of those forward rookies of field ASAP is hte better play.

As long as one of Campbell, Berry Brockman play I would go option 2.

As long as Flynn plays, I dont't think given the state of the forward line I don't think you can get Gawn.

If Campbell/Berry/Brockman don't play, are you able to do Dunkley/Campbell to Zorko/Brayshaw or something simliar (under the assumption Gulden plays)?

Yeah, my immediate thought was Gawn in, locked. But then all the fwd carnage kicked in.

I can do the Cambell option if things fall that way, but I'm wary of Brayshaw. I know he's going well, but he's burned me before. I guess I might have to move past it, and remember that Ross isn't coaching them anymore, so he may be able to realise potential. (Made a mistake not having a D/M link to use Laird if needed.)

Was thinking Marshall as both R/F cover is handy, but is a risk the way Saints are playing & w Ryder coming back. Outside Ziebell, Dunkley who knows how the forward line will play out?

At least team announcements will be a bit easier to negotiate this week. Thanks Deeman.

 

[Quasimodo]

I just feel like this happens nearly every season with Duncan. He goes on a hot streak and people start talking about getting him in and then you look at the end of the year and he has a 105 average alongside his name. The 4 goals padded his score last week against a hapless Eagles side missing a bunch of their stars. Also he's never gone over 110 average in his career although maybe this will be the season he finishes as a top 10 mid.

I'll admit no Danger for a big chunk of the season does have me more interested this time around. But for me he seems another in a long list of mids who will probably average 105-110 this season.

 

[Zimmer]

I just feel like this happens nearly every season with Duncan. He goes on a hot streak and people start talking about getting him in and then you look at the end of the year and he has a 105 average alongside his name. The 4 goals padded his score last week against a hapless Eagles side missing a bunch of their stars. Also has never gone over 110 average in his career although maybe this will be the season he finishes as a top 10 mid.

I'll admit no Danger for a big chunk of the season does have me more interested this time around. But for me he seems another in a long list of mids who will probably average 105-110 this season.

Yeah, I've got Duncan and Guthrie on my short list, but I'm hesitant with both, especially Duncan. Don't think you can take either of their scores from last week as representative.

 

[kennychao]

I just feel like this happens nearly every season with Duncan. He goes on a hot streak and people start talking about getting him in and then you look at the end of the season and he has a 105 average alongside his name. The 4 goals padded his score last week against a hapless Eagles side missing a bunch of their stars. Also has never gone over 110 average in his career although maybe this will be the season he finishes as a top 10 mid.

I'll admit no Danger for a big chunk of the season does have me more interested this time around. But for me he seems another in a long list of mids who will probably average 105-110 this season.

It would make more sense to look up his scores from 2020, he averaged just under 110 a game take out his score of 13

Consistent scores and more proven scorer than Guthrie

He was playing well prior to his 149 last week (i brought him in last week)

For those that are looking at that 550-600k range of midfielders, honestly it’s each to their own. Everyone has preferences (one player over another), as long as you can justify your decision to back whichever player you bring in, and you don’t lose sleep over it, only hindsight will really tell what a ‘better’ decision is

Personally I don’t believe Brayshaw is a ‘proven’ premium so therefore I’m not even considering him at 472k (I know a lot of you guys are), whereas Duncan/Boak/Walsh/Mundy I’d class in the more proven category (considering one of the latter 3 this week for Dunkley)

 

[Quasimodo]

Yeah, I've got Duncan and Guthrie on my short list, but I'm hesitant with both, especially Duncan.

I'd prefer a Walsh, Oliver or even a Mundy for similar money but I guess it comes down to personal preference really. I do like Duncan's Rd12 bye though as a keeper.

 

[Zimmer]

I'd prefer a Walsh, Oliver or even a Mundy for similar money but I guess it comes down to personal preference really. I do like Duncan's Rd12 bye though as a keeper.

Yeah, their bye is what is keeping them in the equation for me. However, I've learned the hard way not to let it decide a trade unless I'd already decided to target a player, or if its a geniune 50/50.

 

[Bones]

Thoughts on when to cash in Flynn?

Was expecting him to rise to $400k eventually but Mumford complicates things?

Lots of interest in this question As you say Mumford complicates things - my initial thoughts were to hold him to cover Rd 14 but there is no guarantee he will play that round. As @Quasimodo said he needs another 2/3 price rises and it will be interesting to see if Mumford will play this week and maybe plays two in a row. If that develops into a pattern (Flynn 1 game / Mummy 2) could be a long wait for the cash. May use him in a few weeks to get Marshall in and swap Fullarton up.

 

[jobeywatto]

If you want to look at Boak's last 3 games, surely you expect him to average 110 - 115? That Richmond game appears to be an uncharacteristic outlier.

Is it? Boak had 3 scores of 70 or below last year. I just don't know if he has a 110+ season in him.

I'd prefer Oliver over Duncan if I had the money, but I don't see why Duncan is any worse of a pick than Walsh/Mundy/Boak types who all don't have solid scoring histories.

 

[Tranterpants]

So got $375k and need to trade Dunkley...
Thinking Berry goes as well for 2 of the below, while I already have Macrae, Oliver, Zerrett, Kelly:
Walsh, Lyons, Duncan, Bont, Brayshaw - any others worth considering?
Will look to grab Ridley in 2...

 

[kennychao]

Is it? Boak had 3 scores of 70 or below last year. I just don't know if he has a 110+ season in him.

I'd prefer Oliver over Duncan if I had the money, but I don't see why Duncan is any worse of a pick than Walsh/Mundy/Boak types who all don't have solid scoring histories.

I think it’ll come down to personal preference. Duncan has always been underrated behind Danger - should almost be a coin toss between those to be honest

Walsh - breakout year? Unproven premium
Mundy - unsustainable scores / 35yo
Boak - point sharing & can be tagged out

 

[SuchIsLife]

Is it? Boak had 3 scores of 70 or below last year. I just don't know if he has a 110+ season in him.

I'd prefer Oliver over Duncan if I had the money, but I don't see why Duncan is any worse of a pick than Walsh/Mundy/Boak types who all don't have solid scoring histories.

Well despite the many tags, Boak averaged 109.9 last season lol... So he was only 0.1 average off the 110+ you mentioned. Also not getting as many times this with the emergence of Wines which has really helped.

I think Oliver is defs preferred over Duncan. For Duncan if you assume he will end up with the highest ever average of 109, that means he's on track to average 105 ish from here, since you already missed the big scores.

FWIW I can see all of those Duncan/Mundy/Gutherie types working, just not the % play imo.

 

[jobeywatto]

I think it’ll come down to personal preference. Duncan has always been underrated behind Danger - should almost be a coin toss between those to be honest

Walsh - breakout year? Unproven premium
Mundy - unsustainable scores / 35yo
Boak - point sharing & can be tagged out

To pick Boak or Mundy you're essentially relying on them to have their best-ever seasons at their ripe old ages. Maybe they'll do it, but history is against them. Walsh you're relying on him to continue his breakout... I think he'll do it - his inside/outside game looks unstoppable at the moment. But all the mids below Oliver in price have question marks. As you said, probably a flip of the coin, and unless injury hits I don't think there'll be much between them.