Strategy Round 8: Trades
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So in terms of trading with overall rank in mind...
I've always thought trade hard once upgrade season starts, use the maximum until reaching full premo... save trades by holding injured premiums for 3 weeks rather than by not using trades. This is how we reach full premo. Is this the best strategy in terms of maximising points?
With 19 trades left and down to 17 after this weeks trades, I'm getting super nervous. Hoping to just hit full premo and ride out the season with 4 - 6 trades left. At the moment I have Impey, Atkins and even Cumming, who could all be 2nd/3rd tier keepers if push comes to shove. At this stage Impey probably is a keeper, unsure of Atkins yet and Cumming likely turns into Lloyd/Whitfield as a luxury trade later on.
I've always thought trade hard once upgrade season starts, use the maximum until reaching full premo... save trades by holding injured premiums for 3 weeks rather than by not using trades. This is how we reach full premo. Is this the best strategy in terms of maximising points?
With 19 trades left and down to 17 after this weeks trades, I'm getting super nervous. Hoping to just hit full premo and ride out the season with 4 - 6 trades left. At the moment I have Impey, Atkins and even Cumming, who could all be 2nd/3rd tier keepers if push comes to shove. At this stage Impey probably is a keeper, unsure of Atkins yet and Cumming likely turns into Lloyd/Whitfield as a luxury trade later on.
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Been my strategy, although league focused. Make the decision that is best longer term.
If you can go up and down, why trade an injured player is wise.
Biggest issue is deciding on who to get in.
May - value although can throw one game in 4 up that is a 60.
Bolton - why the one low score
Zorko ok
Sidey - dont trust he gets thrown more forward
Thilthorpe - hard run coming
If you can go up and down, why trade an injured player is wise.
Biggest issue is deciding on who to get in.
May - value although can throw one game in 4 up that is a 60.
Bolton - why the one low score
Zorko ok
Sidey - dont trust he gets thrown more forward
Thilthorpe - hard run coming
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Atkins was the one I initially looked at , then looked at Stringer's numbers and thought he could score similar for 70k less.
Need to work every $ this season , provided I get enough out of Berry , McNeil & Rowe when I trade them I hope to get a $ 540k premium for each of JordOn , Powell & Warner.
McCreeey could actually go to de Goey @ F6 with a profit based in price projections 😀
No idea how to upgrade D6.
Will still leave me with the likes of May , Daniel , Cripps , Ziebell , Impey & Stringer so just pray they all can go 90+.
Need to work every $ this season , provided I get enough out of Berry , McNeil & Rowe when I trade them I hope to get a $ 540k premium for each of JordOn , Powell & Warner.
McCreeey could actually go to de Goey @ F6 with a profit based in price projections 😀
No idea how to upgrade D6.
Will still leave me with the likes of May , Daniel , Cripps , Ziebell , Impey & Stringer so just pray they all can go 90+.
The problem being that most had to start 5+ premiums down back as a result and now have no room for all these downgrade targets 
There are several things to go for here...
1. Avoid sideways at all costs - You've covered this in your hold for 3 weeks thing, basically every sideways trade in the next month is going to compound and unravel your upgrades/downgrades, it's essentially a missed target, stick 3 or 4 of them in and you're dead in the water.
2. Maximise the on-field replacement on each upgrade - This generally means replacing the worst on field scorer but not always, for example a Gawn over rookie scoring 75 is a better upgrade than a 45 to a 90 forward upgrade but generally it's going to be getting the weakest rookie off the field.
3. Byes - The hidden points here can be significant, plan around them and factor it in, any rookie you bring in now is most likely there for the byes so you need to consider how they align with premiums and you also want to get the ones most likely to play in the byes, every score helps!
4. DPP links - You need to start setting them up for the rest of the season and should think about them before locking players in less than ideal spots. It's not a tiebreaker level consideration but it should certainly be considered and planned as best as possible without sacrificing targets. It's most valuable in the byes onward because it saves trades.
5. Job security on rookies, especially in a couple of weeks - The guys in the next couple of weeks will hopefully make cash and be out by the byes but from round 9 onward, the reality is most of those rookies are season long picks and thus you should target the ones who will play the rest of the season, a guy making a quick 100k you're not using has less value than a guy pumping out a 40 to avoid a donut later on when one of the premiums in every team misses.
6. Have a plan - Which positions do you need? Who are the bargains at those positions? How can you get them? Is the bargain the right call? Is the value the obvious name or the less obvious name? Is May this week at 410k better value than Ridley at 510k next week, especially if it is your D6 upgrade? The other factor, is there a super premium you're missing at that position that you need to get, they're going to take more work to get.
7. Durability is your god - See point one but every guy you don't have to trade later is more trades, can you get those luxury trades in play later that let you have a boom or bust loophole target that actually provides more points than a minor upgrade to your last spots on field?
8. Maximise depth - This kind of plays into point 2 but if you can push the guys on-field to the bench for a few weeks of cover that's great, the stronger your bench, the more you can handle a player out for a week or two, which means you can stay on the plan and not get de-railed.
There are several things to go for here...
1. Avoid sideways at all costs - You've covered this in your hold for 3 weeks thing, basically every sideways trade in the next month is going to compound and unravel your upgrades/downgrades, it's essentially a missed target, stick 3 or 4 of them in and you're dead in the water.
2. Maximise the on-field replacement on each upgrade - This generally means replacing the worst on field scorer but not always, for example a Gawn over rookie scoring 75 is a better upgrade than a 45 to a 90 forward upgrade but generally it's going to be getting the weakest rookie off the field.
3. Byes - The hidden points here can be significant, plan around them and factor it in, any rookie you bring in now is most likely there for the byes so you need to consider how they align with premiums and you also want to get the ones most likely to play in the byes, every score helps!
4. DPP links - You need to start setting them up for the rest of the season and should think about them before locking players in less than ideal spots. It's not a tiebreaker level consideration but it should certainly be considered and planned as best as possible without sacrificing targets. It's most valuable in the byes onward because it saves trades.
5. Job security on rookies, especially in a couple of weeks - The guys in the next couple of weeks will hopefully make cash and be out by the byes but from round 9 onward, the reality is most of those rookies are season long picks and thus you should target the ones who will play the rest of the season, a guy making a quick 100k you're not using has less value than a guy pumping out a 40 to avoid a donut later on when one of the premiums in every team misses.
6. Have a plan - Which positions do you need? Who are the bargains at those positions? How can you get them? Is the bargain the right call? Is the value the obvious name or the less obvious name? Is May this week at 410k better value than Ridley at 510k next week, especially if it is your D6 upgrade? The other factor, is there a super premium you're missing at that position that you need to get, they're going to take more work to get.
7. Durability is your god - See point one but every guy you don't have to trade later is more trades, can you get those luxury trades in play later that let you have a boom or bust loophole target that actually provides more points than a minor upgrade to your last spots on field?
8. Maximise depth - This kind of plays into point 2 but if you can push the guys on-field to the bench for a few weeks of cover that's great, the stronger your bench, the more you can handle a player out for a week or two, which means you can stay on the plan and not get de-railed.
The team is coming along nicely, with only 4 upgrades needed if i bring in atkins and may this week
problem is, about 6 of my premiums are borderline and may need to be upgraded due to them being lower class preimums
however at the moment it means i am only fielding 4 rookies which is very good points wise, helped me reach highest rank in past 2 years 801
should i look at getting someone like walsh and fredrick this week instead, but miss may and have to field a scott or rowe?
problem is, about 6 of my premiums are borderline and may need to be upgraded due to them being lower class preimums
however at the moment it means i am only fielding 4 rookies which is very good points wise, helped me reach highest rank in past 2 years 801
should i look at getting someone like walsh and fredrick this week instead, but miss may and have to field a scott or rowe?
Keep doing what you are doing , like the May & Atkins options.
Just need to see the price projections for your bench players to fund your 4 upgrades.
Powell should get close to $ 400k , really need the other 3 to get close to $ 350-375k each.
Looking at your bench Scott will make you $ 125k , McNeil might get you $ 90-100k.
Wouldn't be banking on any of the others making much $$$ at all , just hope they return.
Just need to see the price projections for your bench players to fund your 4 upgrades.
Powell should get close to $ 400k , really need the other 3 to get close to $ 350-375k each.
Looking at your bench Scott will make you $ 125k , McNeil might get you $ 90-100k.
Wouldn't be banking on any of the others making much $$$ at all , just hope they return.
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One thing to consider with both.
May's role could change to smaller types if Tom McDonald ends up back now with Tomlinson out. Weideman could replace McDonald in the forwards with Jackson + Brown there in future rounds.
Caleb Daniel could still be used less when Williams comes back in the next round or 2.
May's role could change to smaller types if Tom McDonald ends up back now with Tomlinson out. Weideman could replace McDonald in the forwards with Jackson + Brown there in future rounds.
Caleb Daniel could still be used less when Williams comes back in the next round or 2.
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Has anyone looked ahead to the bye rounds?
Looks fairly ugly, the main potential issue being the dead wood clogging the bench (Highmore, Sharp, Flynn to an extent, Waterman types - and probably young Macrae, too).
One or two of those might be OK, starts to get tricky fielding an 18, though.
Suppose slingshotting could help here and there and there's still some time to course correct.
Looks fairly ugly, the main potential issue being the dead wood clogging the bench (Highmore, Sharp, Flynn to an extent, Waterman types - and probably young Macrae, too).
One or two of those might be OK, starts to get tricky fielding an 18, though.
Suppose slingshotting could help here and there and there's still some time to course correct.
