Thanks Rowsus. I thought it might be a bit tricky but 17 was still higher than I thought and as you say some may have crossed the 200k line and dropped back. Interesting that 19 rookies fell into the 150k to 200k bracket. I would have thought more in this group and less in the over 200k bracket but they were almost the same.
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I'm not sure exactly what freowho meant in his original comment, but I took it to mean the amount of cash generated by the D8 position over the entire year.
If you downgrade that player in round 8 for 150k and then again in round 16 for 125k that makes 275k. This of course is costing you two trades, but a hypothetical 125-150k profit for one trade is getting close to a sum you'd be happy with.
If you had a doughnut sitting at D8, you might be either forced into making trades for closer to 100k than 150k - or alternatively making your trades later in the season and missing out on valuable upgrades and points along the way.
If you downgrade that player in round 8 for 150k and then again in round 16 for 125k that makes 275k. This of course is costing you two trades, but a hypothetical 125-150k profit for one trade is getting close to a sum you'd be happy with.
If you had a doughnut sitting at D8, you might be either forced into making trades for closer to 100k than 150k - or alternatively making your trades later in the season and missing out on valuable upgrades and points along the way.
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The table is simple. Once they hit 200k everyone stayed over it except Mayes who dropped under but made it back by the end of the season. Mayes was also the most expensive and took the longest to get to the 200k mark. Given this years pricing of rookies not sure if that has significance. It takes 7.75 games to get to the 200k. Only 3 players got they under Rd 10 and that was what interested me most. I will probably look at the 150k -200k bracket as well as are more likely to be traded as cash cows.
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I will post this in the strategy thread as well but I wanted Rowsus' opinion along with everyone else.
My question is posed in a "perfect world" were you can allocate your trades to what purpose they will serve throughout the year. I have gone with four options - Correction, Downgrade, Upgrade and Injury
I have looked at my trades from last year and compared them to the trades made by The Dimmawitts. Trading is obv where the game is won and lost (with a bit of luck thrown in) and it is crucial how they are used. I remember looking at Johns Dimmawitts about round 8 and was amazed at how good his side was so early so i wanted to analyse
My question is how should we use our trades? I have done up a table with 30 trades and want peoples opinion on how many trades i have allocated to each type and if they think it is realistic
I will post this in the strategy thread as well but I wanted Rowsus' opinion along with everyone else.
My question is posed in a "perfect world" were you can allocate your trades to what purpose they will serve throughout the year. I have gone with four options - Correction, Downgrade, Upgrade and Injury
I have looked at my trades from last year and compared them to the trades made by The Dimmawitts. Trading is obv where the game is won and lost (with a bit of luck thrown in) and it is crucial how they are used. I remember looking at Johns Dimmawitts about round 8 and was amazed at how good his side was so early so i wanted to analyse
My question is how should we use our trades? I have done up a table with 30 trades and want peoples opinion on how many trades i have allocated to each type and if they think it is realistic
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Thanks tracygrims. I was thinking about the worth of D8 for the whole year and starting with a doughnut at D8 for the captains loophole and a doghnut at R4 for an emergency loophole between Sandi and HMac. But as Rowsus pointed out your are bound to have a doughnut somewhere on the bench because of injuries or omissions anyway so there is no need to manufacture one.
I had a look at last years draw and the captains loophole versus a fixed captain (Ablett) and I reckon it was worth 360 points. I used the captains average as the yes or no trigger to use the vice captain. I assumed Ablett and Pendlebury and in their absence or playing against each other chose griffen and jelwood. There were 8 occasions where it was a positive result and only 2 occasions where it was negative. If I get time I might look at previous years, however I am thinking that it was a good year with 2 standout players whose games were timed really well for the loophole. Given the Captain earns double points I will initially use R4 for the captains loophole and as another doughnut appears use R4 as an emergency Ruck loophole.
Just out of curiosity I went through last years draw again and tried a Captains strategy of picking the best player without an obvious tag versus a fixed captain. It was a disaster. I picked the wrong guy too many times for it to be worthwhile.
I had a look at last years draw and the captains loophole versus a fixed captain (Ablett) and I reckon it was worth 360 points. I used the captains average as the yes or no trigger to use the vice captain. I assumed Ablett and Pendlebury and in their absence or playing against each other chose griffen and jelwood. There were 8 occasions where it was a positive result and only 2 occasions where it was negative. If I get time I might look at previous years, however I am thinking that it was a good year with 2 standout players whose games were timed really well for the loophole. Given the Captain earns double points I will initially use R4 for the captains loophole and as another doughnut appears use R4 as an emergency Ruck loophole.
Just out of curiosity I went through last years draw again and tried a Captains strategy of picking the best player without an obvious tag versus a fixed captain. It was a disaster. I picked the wrong guy too many times for it to be worthwhile.
In a perfect world I would have 15 downgrades, 15 upgrades to end up with a squad of 30 premiums.
Imagine having someone like Dean Cox as your R4!
Edit - not sure how this would work mathematically with the last upgrade/downgrade to end with 30 premiums but hey its just fantasy so I won't worry about it.
Imagine having someone like Dean Cox as your R4!
Edit - not sure how this would work mathematically with the last upgrade/downgrade to end with 30 premiums but hey its just fantasy so I won't worry about it.
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And here is the 150k table. I suspect there would be a number of players in this bracket who went above the 150k and then dropped below it. The list only has the ones that stayed above the 150k at the end of the season. Decided to include Pittard and Gorringe although they were not true rookies but were priced as cheap as a rookie. I added position this time as well. Take what you like out of it.
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I agree and this is at the heart of why i posted this and posed the question. Ideally we would have more upgrades, but how do we get this? We need cash to upgrade and this is usually generated from downgrading players
so from my proposed trades (4 correction, 12 downgrades, 9 upgrades and 5 for injury) where do we get the extra upgrades from? and does this come down to "skilled luck" in picking the correct rookies and initial team needing minimal corrections and being limited with injuries to your selected players throughout the year or can we generate cash in a more effective way to allow for these upgrades to occur?
so from my proposed trades (4 correction, 12 downgrades, 9 upgrades and 5 for injury) where do we get the extra upgrades from? and does this come down to "skilled luck" in picking the correct rookies and initial team needing minimal corrections and being limited with injuries to your selected players throughout the year or can we generate cash in a more effective way to allow for these upgrades to occur?
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