Discussion EPL Dream Team Discussion - Season 2021/22
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Leicester’s Jakupovic at the advice of @vsberlina
DEFs rarely get subbed off. Only if they're injured. Wouldn't be a high risk. In any case, we play a 2-5-3, so likely you wouldn't start the other 3.
If they do cameos, worse they can drop to is 3.5m from 3.75m. Loose change really. But they have plenty of upside.
You'd likely get TAA, Tsimikas for a few weeks (Robbo injury many say is 6-8 weeks, so should get 3 games out of him), and VVD.
If Matip gets injured, you've got both of the likely backups, so gain another starter.
If VVD gets injured, you've got his replacement without needing a transfer.
But yes, a Pool postponement will give you 2 DEF donuts, unless you use transfers.
It might also be a missed opportunity to make cash, but then all players are a risk.
We'll likely use transfers to get the ones that will skyrocket in price after GW3.
If they do cameos, worse they can drop to is 3.5m from 3.75m. Loose change really. But they have plenty of upside.
You'd likely get TAA, Tsimikas for a few weeks (Robbo injury many say is 6-8 weeks, so should get 3 games out of him), and VVD.
If Matip gets injured, you've got both of the likely backups, so gain another starter.
If VVD gets injured, you've got his replacement without needing a transfer.
But yes, a Pool postponement will give you 2 DEF donuts, unless you use transfers.
It might also be a missed opportunity to make cash, but then all players are a risk.
We'll likely use transfers to get the ones that will skyrocket in price after GW3.
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Here’s where I sit with only the Thursdays Super Cup to come (can’t give an image because the files too big on my phone).
400K in the bank
GK: Bachmann (Jakupovic)
The 17% owned Bachmann due to price and fixtures.
Jakupovic for loophole purposes.
DEF: Trent, Maguire, Pereira, VVD (Tsimikas)
Pools fixtures dictate the inclusion of Trent and VVD. Maguire is there to cover a price point, and may switch him if a must have with future decent fixtures presents. Fall a mil short of Shaw, but he’s as nailed on as you can get and loves a header. May get on the end of a Shaw corner.
Pereira due to Leicester’s fixtures and the attacking threat he presents at sub 5mil. The 400K can easily be used to switch to Firpo or White.
Tsimikas for obvious reasons. Pools fixtures and some attacking threat based upon his assist in this mornings friendly. May start him against Norwich and bench Maguire just for giggles.
MID: Bruno, Havertz, Mbeumo (Sancho, Gilmore)
Bruno because of the captaincy option. Think he’s overpriced, think he plays deeper, don’t think there will be as many pens….but it’s a price point that can be moved off.
Havertz because he’s too cheap. Lukaku will hurt him a fair bit as the OOP won’t be there, but his ownership and price dictate he should be picked.
Mbeumo due to Brentfords first 5 weeks, think the fixtures are good. Takes some set pieces, and lines up next to Toney. Will be Canos if he wasn’t named for some reason, but expecting he will be.
Sancho with the thinking he’s too cheap and picking him saves a transfer, even if he may not be starting week 1.
Gilmore for fodder reasons. Nailed. Probably subjective to seeing Southampton’s lineup and notably Tella, or Watford's Sema. Enough in the bank to get to Canos if needed.
FWD: Salah, Vardy, Toney
Salah for Pools fixtures and captaincy, as well as his ownership.
Vardy with 2 peach fixtures against Wolves and Norwich in the first 3, where he may even be used as a captain in week 3. Maybe only a 70 minute cameo going forward, but he’s on pens and he’s closer to getting to Lukaku and Kane than others. A short term punt at low ownership.
Toney with Brentfords fixtures and ownership. The bank can get him to Greenwood if necessary. I like Greenwood but am prepared to wait and see if he gets off to a hot start.
Looking forward to the season kicking off. Hopefully someone in here takes it out.
400K in the bank
GK: Bachmann (Jakupovic)
The 17% owned Bachmann due to price and fixtures.
Jakupovic for loophole purposes.
DEF: Trent, Maguire, Pereira, VVD (Tsimikas)
Pools fixtures dictate the inclusion of Trent and VVD. Maguire is there to cover a price point, and may switch him if a must have with future decent fixtures presents. Fall a mil short of Shaw, but he’s as nailed on as you can get and loves a header. May get on the end of a Shaw corner.
Pereira due to Leicester’s fixtures and the attacking threat he presents at sub 5mil. The 400K can easily be used to switch to Firpo or White.
Tsimikas for obvious reasons. Pools fixtures and some attacking threat based upon his assist in this mornings friendly. May start him against Norwich and bench Maguire just for giggles.
MID: Bruno, Havertz, Mbeumo (Sancho, Gilmore)
Bruno because of the captaincy option. Think he’s overpriced, think he plays deeper, don’t think there will be as many pens….but it’s a price point that can be moved off.
Havertz because he’s too cheap. Lukaku will hurt him a fair bit as the OOP won’t be there, but his ownership and price dictate he should be picked.
Mbeumo due to Brentfords first 5 weeks, think the fixtures are good. Takes some set pieces, and lines up next to Toney. Will be Canos if he wasn’t named for some reason, but expecting he will be.
Sancho with the thinking he’s too cheap and picking him saves a transfer, even if he may not be starting week 1.
Gilmore for fodder reasons. Nailed. Probably subjective to seeing Southampton’s lineup and notably Tella, or Watford's Sema. Enough in the bank to get to Canos if needed.
FWD: Salah, Vardy, Toney
Salah for Pools fixtures and captaincy, as well as his ownership.
Vardy with 2 peach fixtures against Wolves and Norwich in the first 3, where he may even be used as a captain in week 3. Maybe only a 70 minute cameo going forward, but he’s on pens and he’s closer to getting to Lukaku and Kane than others. A short term punt at low ownership.
Toney with Brentfords fixtures and ownership. The bank can get him to Greenwood if necessary. I like Greenwood but am prepared to wait and see if he gets off to a hot start.
Looking forward to the season kicking off. Hopefully someone in here takes it out.
Tsimikas is now a must, and with the amount of crosses he puts in, I'm happy to start him.
A few crosses meet a header, a goal is scored, and it's a successful cross, a key pass and an assist.
Pereira's stats in the Charity Shield were excellent. 8 tackles.
Shows up, tackles, thanks for the 6 pts. Add the rest, and I like him a lot.
Bertrand on some SPs, so a good option too if you can't afford Pereira.
Vardy 4 shots with 3 on target. With Firmino scoring a brace, I got put off Jota, and Iheanacho is too risky a starter.
Vardy should be 100% for the 1st GW, and he's still got pens, so worth at least a 1 week punt, and can be kept for 3 weeks if he starts well.
If Gundy plays in the KDB role like he did last season, he's gold. But I'll wait until GW2 to see how he goes, and if KDB is back.
A few crosses meet a header, a goal is scored, and it's a successful cross, a key pass and an assist.
Pereira's stats in the Charity Shield were excellent. 8 tackles.
Shows up, tackles, thanks for the 6 pts. Add the rest, and I like him a lot.
Bertrand on some SPs, so a good option too if you can't afford Pereira.
Vardy 4 shots with 3 on target. With Firmino scoring a brace, I got put off Jota, and Iheanacho is too risky a starter.
Vardy should be 100% for the 1st GW, and he's still got pens, so worth at least a 1 week punt, and can be kept for 3 weeks if he starts well.
If Gundy plays in the KDB role like he did last season, he's gold. But I'll wait until GW2 to see how he goes, and if KDB is back.
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I started Vardy in FPL last season. He can be frustrating because a match can run deep and he hasn’t touched it let alone had a shot, however pens can get the bloke out of trouble, and they saved my bacon a few times where he picked up the bonus on the back of them. I’m expecting him to be scaled back minutes wise with Nacho probably coming off the bench and the addition of Daka, but even 70mins in the plum week 1 and 3 fixtures could be golden.
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Fair enough you think about the game a lot more than me and obviously play it better.
Personally can't see the point picking 2 backup centre backs waiting for Matip & VVD to see if they get injured or not , if it is a few games just bench VVD , if it is longer just trade in the replacement.
If it is Matip the other 2 probably haven't played so their price won't have moved much.
Would have thought picking starting bench players to play and make $$$ ASAP was a key ingredient to then enable onfield upgrades to premiums.
Interested to see how it all works out.
Personally can't see the point picking 2 backup centre backs waiting for Matip & VVD to see if they get injured or not , if it is a few games just bench VVD , if it is longer just trade in the replacement.
If it is Matip the other 2 probably haven't played so their price won't have moved much.
Would have thought picking starting bench players to play and make $$$ ASAP was a key ingredient to then enable onfield upgrades to premiums.
Interested to see how it all works out.
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I'm new to this EPL dream team,
Does the price rise increase much after 3 rounds if a bottom priced player gets say a 8pt average ?
Not sure if i should GK donut as above and a cheapie, or 2 cheapies being upgrade once they've made a lil bit of money.
Also how much should we be trading/holding onto them?
Does the price rise increase much after 3 rounds if a bottom priced player gets say a 8pt average ?
Not sure if i should GK donut as above and a cheapie, or 2 cheapies being upgrade once they've made a lil bit of money.
Also how much should we be trading/holding onto them?
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Manchester City’s Brazilian and English players have returned to the City Football Academy ahead of the 2021-22 season.
Ederson, Gabriel Jesus, John Stones and Kyle Walker all reported to the training ground on Tuesday morning after their summer breaks following their exploits in the Copa America and EURO 2020.
Both Brazil and England made it to the final of their respective tournaments, only to fall at the final hurdle, with Ederson and Jesus losing 1-0 to Argentina, whilst the Three Lions suffered penalty shootout heartbreak against Italy.
The quartet now have five days to get up and running ahead of the new campaign, though, having missed all of City’s pre-season friendlies, it remains to be seen whether they will be involved against Tottenham Hotspur on Sunday.
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Ederson, Gabriel Jesus, John Stones and Kyle Walker all reported to the training ground on Tuesday morning after their summer breaks following their exploits in the Copa America and EURO 2020.
Both Brazil and England made it to the final of their respective tournaments, only to fall at the final hurdle, with Ederson and Jesus losing 1-0 to Argentina, whilst the Three Lions suffered penalty shootout heartbreak against Italy.
The quartet now have five days to get up and running ahead of the new campaign, though, having missed all of City’s pre-season friendlies, it remains to be seen whether they will be involved against Tottenham Hotspur on Sunday.
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There are 3 reasons I like having 4-5 Pool.
1) It's Pool. We know they can CS.
2) With 4 guys sub 4.5m, you really can't argue with that price. Risk/reward is like shooting fish in a barrel.
3) You can still make value on them, given they don't lose value when they don't play.
There will be rotation come UCL games, and no matter who starts, you're likely covered, and saving transfers.
Last season City went on a bad run. I was desperate and grabbed 3 City DEF at bargain prices when the timing was right.
Cancelo, Dias and Stones were all around 5-6m, and that felt cheap.
Pool DEF for under 4.5 is an even bigger bargain.
If you're going to put all your eggs in one basket, doing it cheaply with an EPL & UCL winning team isn't the worst risk you'll ever take.
1) It's Pool. We know they can CS.
2) With 4 guys sub 4.5m, you really can't argue with that price. Risk/reward is like shooting fish in a barrel.
3) You can still make value on them, given they don't lose value when they don't play.
There will be rotation come UCL games, and no matter who starts, you're likely covered, and saving transfers.
Last season City went on a bad run. I was desperate and grabbed 3 City DEF at bargain prices when the timing was right.
Cancelo, Dias and Stones were all around 5-6m, and that felt cheap.
Pool DEF for under 4.5 is an even bigger bargain.
If you're going to put all your eggs in one basket, doing it cheaply with an EPL & UCL winning team isn't the worst risk you'll ever take.
Given the combined 9m price tag, it's a risk that's minimised because you can still get all the attacking big guns.
Both are proven fantasy gods, and LEI have a good run of fixtures. I see lots of potential upside with minimal downside.
If Pool weren't cheaper and had a better run, I'd probably be looking at both too.
I'll probably hedge though and grab one of them.
Bertrand took some set pieces in pre-season games, but that might have just been experimental.
Maddison and Tielemans have taken set pieces in the past and I can't recall Bertrand taking too many at Soton.
Both are proven fantasy gods, and LEI have a good run of fixtures. I see lots of potential upside with minimal downside.
If Pool weren't cheaper and had a better run, I'd probably be looking at both too.
I'll probably hedge though and grab one of them.
Bertrand took some set pieces in pre-season games, but that might have just been experimental.
Maddison and Tielemans have taken set pieces in the past and I can't recall Bertrand taking too many at Soton.
Pricing algorithm is difficult to understand.
Most weighting is put on the last 3 weeks, and big price spikes occur with abnormally high scores for a week.
But if a 4m player averaged 8 pts per week, you'd expect them to gradually get to about 7.6m eventually.
Historically, the best way to loop has been the non-starting GK, and use the DEF slots to make the cash.
Given we play a 2-5-3 formation and the worst score comes off the bench, it's not a tactic to loop a DEF.
You could use a MID or FOR, but they're too precious a position to waste on a loop. The GK is thus the best spot.
It's also the spot highest at risk of returning a minus, so looping protects you from really bad scores.
Given most GK averages are only 3 pts apart, you also won't lose too much ground if you pick a really bad starting GK.
Most weighting is put on the last 3 weeks, and big price spikes occur with abnormally high scores for a week.
But if a 4m player averaged 8 pts per week, you'd expect them to gradually get to about 7.6m eventually.
Historically, the best way to loop has been the non-starting GK, and use the DEF slots to make the cash.
Given we play a 2-5-3 formation and the worst score comes off the bench, it's not a tactic to loop a DEF.
You could use a MID or FOR, but they're too precious a position to waste on a loop. The GK is thus the best spot.
It's also the spot highest at risk of returning a minus, so looping protects you from really bad scores.
Given most GK averages are only 3 pts apart, you also won't lose too much ground if you pick a really bad starting GK.
I guess my thinking is that I want my 3 bench defenders to be playing from the start and as much as possible so they can make $$$ ASAP so I can then upgrade Bachmann , Mbeuma & Toney to premiums as soon as I can.
Although if I then buy a Chelsea/City/Man United/Spurs defender and revert to 3-4-3 I possibly can downgrade Mbeuma (but will then need to upgrade one of D3-5 instead)
Although if I then buy a Chelsea/City/Man United/Spurs defender and revert to 3-4-3 I possibly can downgrade Mbeuma (but will then need to upgrade one of D3-5 instead)
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