Position 2022: Midfield Discussion
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Hewett is more on the Jarryd Lyons level, who to be fair has pushed pretty damn close to Touk and Steele land.
Averaged 88 a couple of years ago playing as a HF with some stopping roles, injury completely derailed his 2020 season, last year he spent the first 2/3 of the season playing as a lockdown defender. Last third or so he was released into the midfield where he averaged 90 but that's behind Mills, Parker and JPK and playing as the defensive midfielder.
When he does get to cut loose he can score very freely. Very tidy ball user, wins contests and tackles very well, a very good mix. Not going to break games open but will just outwork to contests, again, Jarryd Lyons like.
The real question is how Carlton actually want to use him. He's a very good defensive midfielder, a solid tagger in the right matchups or he can be a very good ball winning and spread midfielder, personally I think Carlton needs the last part more than anything but I honestly have no idea. He's a really good value signing for them though.
I think he's probably a better play in draft leagues though, basically has to be a keeper and I think 105 is possible by very much on the higher end of possible outcomes and well beyond my expected outcomes on him. I think realistically he's looking to consolidate a solid 90+ full season as a mid, if that kind of number works then he's in play for you, if it doesn't then avoid. Basically I'd bet good money he's in the 85-95 range if his role is good, to go beyond that it needs to be great. If he ends up lining up in a back pocket then it goes way down!
Averaged 88 a couple of years ago playing as a HF with some stopping roles, injury completely derailed his 2020 season, last year he spent the first 2/3 of the season playing as a lockdown defender. Last third or so he was released into the midfield where he averaged 90 but that's behind Mills, Parker and JPK and playing as the defensive midfielder.
When he does get to cut loose he can score very freely. Very tidy ball user, wins contests and tackles very well, a very good mix. Not going to break games open but will just outwork to contests, again, Jarryd Lyons like.
The real question is how Carlton actually want to use him. He's a very good defensive midfielder, a solid tagger in the right matchups or he can be a very good ball winning and spread midfielder, personally I think Carlton needs the last part more than anything but I honestly have no idea. He's a really good value signing for them though.
I think he's probably a better play in draft leagues though, basically has to be a keeper and I think 105 is possible by very much on the higher end of possible outcomes and well beyond my expected outcomes on him. I think realistically he's looking to consolidate a solid 90+ full season as a mid, if that kind of number works then he's in play for you, if it doesn't then avoid. Basically I'd bet good money he's in the 85-95 range if his role is good, to go beyond that it needs to be great. If he ends up lining up in a back pocket then it goes way down!
We traded him in 2020 with a $263K profit. Very dissapointing.
Last year he was $495k and hadn't played for a year.
This year he is $342 and played the last 11 games of 2021.
On a side not supercoach has a thumbs down next to his name because he has a poor average against his next opponent, West Coast. He had 15% time on ground against them last year.
Last year he was $495k and hadn't played for a year.
This year he is $342 and played the last 11 games of 2021.
On a side not supercoach has a thumbs down next to his name because he has a poor average against his next opponent, West Coast. He had 15% time on ground against them last year.
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Between the Constable and Yeo range, Rowell is the one I have given most consideration to so far and has been occupying M4 or M5 in most structures. Hopefully he can recapture his form from his opening season and if not, his price is nice to allow us to grab a missed rookie early on and upgrade a mid-priced.
Regarding those avoiding Rowell due to prior circumstances, the past needs to be put behind us and should not cloud decision making. No place for emotions in a data driven game.
Regarding those avoiding Rowell due to prior circumstances, the past needs to be put behind us and should not cloud decision making. No place for emotions in a data driven game.
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Not a defender but if you have Bont's first half and second half year breakdowns over the last 3 years id love a memory refresh 
Pre Bye: 118.88 from 34 (3/34 below 80, 11/34 below 100, 17/34 120+)
2019: 112.45 from 11 (1/11 below 80, 5/11 below 100, 4/11 120+)
2020: 114.29 from 14 (2/14 below 80, 6/14 below 100, 5/14 120+)
2021: 126.5 from 12 (2/12 below 100, 8/12 120+)
Post Bye: 115.71 from 24 (2/24 below 80, 8/24 below 100, 10/24 120+)
2019: 117 from 11 (1/11 below 80, 4/11 below 100, 5/11 120+)
2020: 124.67 from 3 (1/3 120+)
2021: 111.6 from 10 (1/10 below 80, 4/10 below 100, 4/10 120+)
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Disappointing as in he was absolutely flying in his rookie season and looked like he would be a keeper until the injury.
Then started with him last year as he was a great price and had high hopes... only to be let down again in round 1 with a crap onfield score, crap round 1 rank as a result, and a forced trade.
So yeah, I was disappointed both the previous times I owned him. Last year more so than the first year.
But as I said... I'll let others take the punt, and wish them good luck.
Then started with him last year as he was a great price and had high hopes... only to be let down again in round 1 with a crap onfield score, crap round 1 rank as a result, and a forced trade.
So yeah, I was disappointed both the previous times I owned him. Last year more so than the first year.
But as I said... I'll let others take the punt, and wish them good luck.
It's very interesting how that last sentence can be applied. One could definitely argue that emotion is being used to paint 3 good games in his first season to be a more accurate reflection of the data than the 12 games in his second season or the other 2 games from his first season.
To be honest I think the truth falls somewhere in between, he's not as good as he was for those couple of games and he's not as bad as he was last year, it's finding which side in between it falls to and he did look amazing in those couple of games.
For mine that price range is only really useful in the mids if the rookies don't exist so while I haven't ruled him out, I'm hopeful I won't need to go near him.
To be honest I think the truth falls somewhere in between, he's not as good as he was for those couple of games and he's not as bad as he was last year, it's finding which side in between it falls to and he did look amazing in those couple of games.
For mine that price range is only really useful in the mids if the rookies don't exist so while I haven't ruled him out, I'm hopeful I won't need to go near him.
What interests me is that we "know" what his role will be ... inside mid ... if he stays fit he should be fine and push 100 ..
When I look at the high priced rookies everyone is keen on ...
- Horne / Erasmus / Ward / Hobbs etc ... would assume most won't be pure midfielders and play a M/F role (wing for Ward) ...
- Daicos should have a M/D role from all reports but can see a managed rest here or there ..
When I look at the high priced rookies everyone is keen on ...
- Horne / Erasmus / Ward / Hobbs etc ... would assume most won't be pure midfielders and play a M/F role (wing for Ward) ...
- Daicos should have a M/D role from all reports but can see a managed rest here or there ..
The problem is that's the same role he's played his whole career and last year it wasn't close to a 100+ role.
Will be watching closely though still, he looked absolutely shellshocked last year, had no confidence, no time, no touch, was just a mess of a player so would be great if he can reverse that and get back to those first few games where he was none of that.
Still such a no man's land price. If he was a forward I'd be all over him but that jump in the mids is a big one and his durability doesn't fill me with any confidence that he actually generates cash.
Will be watching closely though still, he looked absolutely shellshocked last year, had no confidence, no time, no touch, was just a mess of a player so would be great if he can reverse that and get back to those first few games where he was none of that.
Still such a no man's land price. If he was a forward I'd be all over him but that jump in the mids is a big one and his durability doesn't fill me with any confidence that he actually generates cash.