Discussion 2022: Rate My Team
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Only if you have the wrong ones...
If you'd picked Ziebell, Impey, Walker, Jiath, Daniher, Cumming and Dale last year you'd have probably just about locked the cash up... if you'd picked Clark, Dow, Stef Martin and some of the other names that we will happily forget then no.
Realistically if there is a 120k rookie who has similar JS and cash generation prospects, you take them every time but if there isn't then you have to generate cash somehow and you have to find players to field somewhere. I think we've got a very interesting group of them this year that offer a nice balance of job security and scoring potential. There's also a couple that have at least some keeper potential to them.
I'm definitely finding myself in that 6-9 range on that group consistently and while I'd love to ditch a few of them there are also a couple more I wouldn't mind having
I do worry that the exceptional results of last year will definitely create a bit of a recency bias in how we view that price group and could be a contributing factor to why we're looking at many of them or it could just be that there's an exceptionally good crop again and it's the right call!
If you'd picked Ziebell, Impey, Walker, Jiath, Daniher, Cumming and Dale last year you'd have probably just about locked the cash up... if you'd picked Clark, Dow, Stef Martin and some of the other names that we will happily forget then no.
Realistically if there is a 120k rookie who has similar JS and cash generation prospects, you take them every time but if there isn't then you have to generate cash somehow and you have to find players to field somewhere. I think we've got a very interesting group of them this year that offer a nice balance of job security and scoring potential. There's also a couple that have at least some keeper potential to them.
I'm definitely finding myself in that 6-9 range on that group consistently and while I'd love to ditch a few of them there are also a couple more I wouldn't mind having
I do worry that the exceptional results of last year will definitely create a bit of a recency bias in how we view that price group and could be a contributing factor to why we're looking at many of them or it could just be that there's an exceptionally good crop again and it's the right call!
For me, the PS is all about establishing the role changes that were flagged last year and a solid PS for those that are discounted. So those players that might or do have role changes in PS games have to be treated as traps, De Goey is a prime example. Someone who comes out of the blue during the season like Walker have to be considered because of their immediate cash gen.
Bench cover is something that I'm working hard on achieving both from a cash gen. and JS perspective, for my team it's imperative that I make $ on the bench given that I'm only running 4 rookies on field.
If you get a chance, could you run an eye over my team and give a bit of a critique? I'm relatively new at this game and need all the help I can get.
Oh definitely, 8 rookies would not fund 11 upgrades even with a decent 2nd tranche. But once you factor in the embedded value then you are saving, potentially, 1 trade/upgrade and by logic, 1 less rookie that's needed to facilitate that upgrade.
You're right in saying that I have to calculate how much each of those 200-380k players will make, so I'm trying to choose those players that have enough upside to generate the $ and save those trades. For me, the benefit will be enhanced JS and scoring potential.
So someone like Coleman, priced at 48, has to score 73 (it's my benchmark) to make him a worthwhile pick (83 is my projection). Realistically he should score somewhere in the middle. Scoring at 73 he should be worth around 370k after 6 rounds or so (more if he spikes a game or 2) I then would need 2 rookies to get him to a 600k+ premo. This is where I'm banking on the 2nd tranche of rookies becoming available.
I'm choosing all of my players at the lower end of expectations, my reading is that they'll be a bit more productive. I think all of the below have decent upside without even considering the JS
Preuss
JHF
Curnow
Cogs
Caldwell
Milera
Rioli
Witts
You're right in saying that I have to calculate how much each of those 200-380k players will make, so I'm trying to choose those players that have enough upside to generate the $ and save those trades. For me, the benefit will be enhanced JS and scoring potential.
So someone like Coleman, priced at 48, has to score 73 (it's my benchmark) to make him a worthwhile pick (83 is my projection). Realistically he should score somewhere in the middle. Scoring at 73 he should be worth around 370k after 6 rounds or so (more if he spikes a game or 2) I then would need 2 rookies to get him to a 600k+ premo. This is where I'm banking on the 2nd tranche of rookies becoming available.
I'm choosing all of my players at the lower end of expectations, my reading is that they'll be a bit more productive. I think all of the below have decent upside without even considering the JS
Preuss
JHF
Curnow
Cogs
Caldwell
Milera
Rioli
Witts
I will need to get my calculator , pen & paper out.
Even 8 perfect downgrades of $ 150k each (unlikely to happen) means you would need 8 of your players to get to $ 350k each so then you can get them to $ 500k players (possibly works for D & F premiums)
The possible problem arises if your bench rookies are stuck only making $ 60-100k ish in profit when you trade them down.
Obviously the higher in price your mid pricers can get the "less" money you would need for upgrades.
I don't know the exact calculation required for the likes of Caldwell , Cogs , Kiddy , Milera etc price types to get to say $ 400k each what they need to average.
Think JHF , Daicos , Ward need to be 75-80 minimum to get up to $ 350k themselves.
Maybe it works if everything goes right.
Even 8 perfect downgrades of $ 150k each (unlikely to happen) means you would need 8 of your players to get to $ 350k each so then you can get them to $ 500k players (possibly works for D & F premiums)
The possible problem arises if your bench rookies are stuck only making $ 60-100k ish in profit when you trade them down.
Obviously the higher in price your mid pricers can get the "less" money you would need for upgrades.
I don't know the exact calculation required for the likes of Caldwell , Cogs , Kiddy , Milera etc price types to get to say $ 400k each what they need to average.
Think JHF , Daicos , Ward need to be 75-80 minimum to get up to $ 350k themselves.
Maybe it works if everything goes right.
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Really like the ruck and forward lines as I have been playing around with structures very similar. As for the midfield, it is one too heavy given the amount of mid rookies that look promising such as J Horne Francis, D Stephens and N Erasmus and I would prefer the cash to be utilised down back.
For example you could cut Parish for one of the aforementioned rookies and use the $420,000 to $450,000 to upgrade a defensive rookie. This should provide a much safer structure down back as I would be cautious about relying on a structure with five defensive rookies and the lowest average spend for a line. Forward line is the best place to go weak either in terms of premium players or loading up on players between the $200,000 to $450,000 range.
For example you could cut Parish for one of the aforementioned rookies and use the $420,000 to $450,000 to upgrade a defensive rookie. This should provide a much safer structure down back as I would be cautious about relying on a structure with five defensive rookies and the lowest average spend for a line. Forward line is the best place to go weak either in terms of premium players or loading up on players between the $200,000 to $450,000 range.
Very nice, probably because it has the exactly the same forward and ruck lines as me 😄
I've taken Hewett and Coleman down to guys like Sinn and Kemp and used the cash to turn an Erasmus/Stephens into a 4th super mid at slightly lower price-point... someone like Petracca maybe.
Really a wait and see call though, as the MID rookies on field could still be better than the DEFs (or vice versa).
I've taken Hewett and Coleman down to guys like Sinn and Kemp and used the cash to turn an Erasmus/Stephens into a 4th super mid at slightly lower price-point... someone like Petracca maybe.
Really a wait and see call though, as the MID rookies on field could still be better than the DEFs (or vice versa).
Been tinkering with my side. Let's just say I'll be in it for enjoyment this year. So I'm not interested in maximising my premiums onfield before the start of round 1. As we get closer things will obviously change. 😁
CCJ added again, looking likely to be a regular in the forward line, again open to debate. Cooper Sharman is a player of the future, while everyone goes Gresh, I'll go Sharman. 3 rookies in defence isn't ideal, but have $245k available for any changes. Forward bench looks dicey, will make changes, probably SDK.
CCJ added again, looking likely to be a regular in the forward line, again open to debate. Cooper Sharman is a player of the future, while everyone goes Gresh, I'll go Sharman. 3 rookies in defence isn't ideal, but have $245k available for any changes. Forward bench looks dicey, will make changes, probably SDK.
