Discussion 2022: Rate My Team

[N29]

Nothing wrong with any premium selected in this team.

Not sure about Curnow and Brodie however.

You think Brodie plays round 1 and receives decent midfield time?

I would say right now I think he scrapes in. Let's see how he goes with Fyfe and Mundy in the team next week, but JL really likes him from everything I've seen so far. Picking a 22 is no easy task but I currently have it looking something like this.

Logue - Pearce - Ryan
Young - Cox - Clark
Aish - Brayshaw - Frederick
Walters - Treacy - Schultz
Switta - Taberner - Lobb
Darcy - Fyfe - Serong
Mundy - Henry - Chapman - Brodie

 

[NT.Thunder]

I actually think Lloyd is very fadeable this year, I'm picking him and have had him in every draft but that's because I'm parking all my risk up forward and have gone the safest picks down back to counteract that but I'd be surprised if he gets to the 115+ range it would require for him to harm those who don't start him. Simple reality is that at his price if he's at 110 average at round 7 he's going to cost what he costs now. It's actually hard for him to really punish from where he's at. It's possible and he's done it before but I think that both Campbell and Blakey are much worse partners in crime than Mills was when he was at his peak. Mills a much more patient ball user who was happy to go sideways a couple of times to pry openings for either him or Lloyd to advance into. Blakey is going to tuck and run, always, it's what he does. Campbell thinks he can make any kick, a habit that will need to change but wont quickly, and as a result he doesn't yet understand the value in that sideways shift to open the seam up for the kick and instead backs what is, admittedly, an amazing leg to brute force into gaps that are going to close quite often at this level.

I do think Sydney's success last year was a bit of a flash event and that after teams had worked us out we did struggle last year and may do so again this year but not to the extent that Lloyd's likely to average 120 again.

I mean I'm picking him for the first time in about 4 years, so I hope he does, but I think he's an easy fade target. The hardest fades are definitely the guys like Sicily or Dunkley where they could be 20+ points underpriced, they're stupidly popular picks and it would be really hard to close the POD if you go against them. Dunkley it's because his role can change at a whim and his terrible durability, those aren't changing mid season. Sicily may be easier to close but it's hard mentally to do it and there are lots of other options. Fading Grundy also very hard with his upside and popularity and the lack of alternates.

Some very strong teams in the last few posts, genuinely struggle to find issues with them.

I've nearly always gone this way in regards to the fully priced uber prem for posn compared to the undervalued higher risk player like Sicily. My only reasoning here is that I know come round 3 if things go pear-shaped with the uber premium I can always move him down to Sicily if he hits the ground running, It's usually much harder to go the other way unless you're holding cash. I'm still concious of the hot headed Sicily and his ability to just lose his mind at the drop of a hat.

I also think Dawson moving on helps as we saw last sason when he moved further up the ground and Lloyd went back to his seagull ways

 

[RIAL]

I would say right now I think he scrapes in. Let's see how he goes with Fyfe and Mundy in the team next week, but JL really likes him from everything I've seen so far. Picking a 22 is no easy task but I currently have it looking something like this.

Logue - Pearce - Ryan
Young - Cox - Clark
Aish - Brayshaw - Frederick
Walters - Treacy - Schultz
Switta - Taberner - Lobb
Darcy - Fyfe - Serong
Mundy - Henry - Chapman - Brodie

Not a fan of the Brodie selection as someone on the Brayshaw train haha.

Do you expect Fyfe and Mundy to both feature at the majority of CBAs this year?

 

[Connoisseur]

Like it overall but I think Brodie is a classic preseason hype pick - with Fyfe & Mundy in the team I don’t know if he would be best 22 tbh

Thanks. Brodie currently occupying the spot as the price point easily allows me to allocate funds to turn Hayes into Preuss if needed or increase my bench spend on the Mid or Def benches without having to make wholesale changes. Confident that he could average around 70 for a 5-8 week period to then be quickly offloaded for a premium whilst hopefully avoiding the sub 45 scores at F6.

 

[Herbie66]

Getting bored waiting , so have gone back to Cookie Cutter until the next round of practice matches.

Rookies obviously will change once Round 1 teams are announced , $ adjustment should allow for a 12th premium

Rucks will change

LLOYD , WHITFIELD * , SICILY , Coleman * , Gibcus , NWM * / Sinn * , Kemp

MACRAE , STEELE , MITCHELL , NEALE , Berry , JHF , Daicos , Ward / D Stephens , Erasmus , Hobbs

GAWN , DARCY / Preuss

DUNKLEY * , HEENEY , Coniglio * , Curnow , Rachele * , McCartin * / Durdin , Maginness *

$ 13,500.00

11-4-7

 

[N29]

Not a fan of the Brodie selection as someone on the Brayshaw train haha.

Do you expect Fyfe and Mundy to both feature at the majority of CBAs this year?

Yes both to still play primarily as midfielders.

 

[The Experiment]

Not a fan of the Brodie selection as someone on the Brayshaw train haha.

Do you expect Fyfe and Mundy to both feature at the majority of CBAs this year?

In my opinion, first choice rotation will be Fyfe, Serong, Brayshaw

Mundy certainly will be involved too, but the 3 named above get the majority the CBAs for mine. I reckon Brodie will also be part of that second string rotation, bigger body playing that Fyfe extraction role when Fyfe is resting. I think we know Brodie will score okay when playing that role, it's how he scores/where he plays when he isn't on ball which will dictate whether he becomes a good SC selection or not.

I reckon he is in the 22 over the early rounds, obviously form/injury dictates if he stays there.

 

[RIAL]

Yes both to still play primarily as midfielders.

In my opinion, first choice rotation will be Fyfe, Serong, Brayshaw

Mundy certainly will be involved too, but the 3 named above get the majority the CBAs for mine. I reckon Brodie will also be part of that second string rotation, bigger body playing that Fyfe extraction role when Fyfe is resting. I think we know Brodie will score okay when playing that role, it's how he scores/where he plays when he isn't on ball which will dictate whether he becomes a good SC selection or not.

I reckon he is in the 22 over the early rounds, obviously form/injury dictates if he stays there.

Interesting, because my thesis on Brayshaw is based on him averaging at least 60% CBA, hopefully he can achieve that as he frequently went under in 2021.

 

[Santoz]

Getting bored waiting , so have gone back to Cookie Cutter until the next round of practice matches.

Rookies obviously will change once Round 1 teams are announced , $ adjustment should allow for a 12th premium

Rucks will change

LLOYD , WHITFIELD * , SICILY , Coleman * , Gibcus , NWM * / Sinn * , Kemp

MACRAE , STEELE , MITCHELL , NEALE , Berry , JHF , Daicos , Ward / D Stephens , Erasmus , Hobbs

GAWN , DARCY / Preuss

DUNKLEY * , HEENEY , Coniglio * , Curnow , Rachele * , McCartin * / Durdin , Maginness *

$ 13,500.00

11-4-7

I think you can count Coniglio as a Premo in the same vein as Ziebell last season.

 

[wogitalia]

In my opinion, first choice rotation will be Fyfe, Serong, Brayshaw

Mundy certainly will be involved too, but the 3 named above get the majority the CBAs for mine. I reckon Brodie will also be part of that second string rotation, bigger body playing that Fyfe extraction role when Fyfe is resting. I think we know Brodie will score okay when playing that role, it's how he scores/where he plays when he isn't on ball which will dictate whether he becomes a good SC selection or not.

I reckon he is in the 22 over the early rounds, obviously form/injury dictates if he stays there.

Brodie is a really tough sell to me. What he did as a midfielder is exactly what he's always done, he's a legitimately good inside midfielder. The problem is that he wasn't even good enough as a HF to stick in some pretty terrible GC sides.

What he showed was the opposite of what I wanted to see from him to be honest, what would have raised his status was playing HF and actually contributing to the team and then getting some points in limited midfield rotations, aka a realistic role for him when Fyfe, Mundy, Brayshaw and Serong are all playing together.

Never know, maybe Longmuir genuinely wants him in there and will push Fyfe and Mundy out, in which case he'll be a brilliant pick. For mine he's the bailout option for other guys at round 3 and get some real evidence on his role because his career history is he is great in that role and then out of the side a month later when not playing it.

 

[Herbie66]

I think you can count Coniglio as a Premo in the same vein as Ziebell last season.

Hopefully stays on the park long enough.

 

[RIAL]

Brodie is a really tough sell to me. What he did as a midfielder is exactly what he's always done, he's a legitimately good inside midfielder. The problem is that he wasn't even good enough as a HF to stick in some pretty terrible GC sides.

What he showed was the opposite of what I wanted to see from him to be honest, what would have raised his status was playing HF and actually contributing to the team and then getting some points in limited midfield rotations, aka a realistic role for him when Fyfe, Mundy, Brayshaw and Serong are all playing together.

Never know, maybe Longmuir genuinely wants him in there and will push Fyfe and Mundy out, in which case he'll be a brilliant pick. For mine he's the bailout option for other guys at round 3 and get some real evidence on his role because his career history is he is great in that role and then out of the side a month later when not playing it.

I can't see it working out. If he was a versatile player he would've gotten games at GC.

FWIW, I think he is an exceptional talent with huge potential. I see him being a 110 - 115 type in a few years with the right role. But he won't be getting that at Fremantle, at least not in 2022.

 

[Buckley's Chance]

Hey guys what do you think of this?

$26k left in bank

Would love some feedback on it

 

[wogitalia]

I can't see it working out. If he was a versatile player he would've gotten games at GC.

FWIW, I think he is an exceptional talent with huge potential. I see him being a 110 - 115 type in a few years with the right role. But he won't be getting that at Fremantle, at least not in 2022.

There's a ton of his type around the league, genuinely hard to find the sides who don't have a couple of very good inside midfielders, probably because it's the most translatable position from juniors but the good ones don't miss as often. You look around the league and there is a Brodie or a Hewett/Lipinski (last year) at every club.

 

[wogitalia]

Hey guys what do you think of this?

$26k left in bank

Would love some feedback on it

I don't mind the picks but it's a very risky structure. Counting Sicily and Heeney as premiums I still only get to 11, Hewett might work but with Sicily and Ridley both probably looking more like D6 types than D3 types, it's risky.

OMc I don't like as a pick, I just struggle to see 120 from him, which means your scope for missing is so small and there's no cash generation, the most likely "best case" scenario I can see for him is he holds his value while Gawn falls towards the 113 type range and Darcy gets injured, that's a lot of variables for him and even then, you're still needing trades or losing points, albeit at a better $pp rate, to other teams.

Type of side though that if you believe in those picks you should go for it! And if you're right, you're going to be right in the mix!

 

[Professor]

Another update lol, switching forwards to mids, with view to switch back forward. Not comfortable with the mid rookies also being overpriced.

 

[Toothless Tigers]

I have come full circle back to where I started from, if it was any more vanilla I would use it to bake a cake.

Let me know what you think.

Thank you for taking a look

 

[Santoz]

Another update lol, switching forwards to mids, with view to switch back forward. Not comfortable with the mid rookies also being overpriced.

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Definitely going against the grain with this one.

The difference between a 5 rookie on-field setup like this and another with the top tier mid rooks is that you really need to be nailing those mid pricer picks to stay ahead (or even on par) for points each week.

In saying that, if you're confident that Weller & Sidebottom will be keeper selections then you're ahead in keepers say of a side that's set up with the top rookie mids at M6, M7 & M8.

Courageous lateral thinking if you run this set up.

 

[Vicwood]

I would say right now I think he scrapes in. Let's see how he goes with Fyfe and Mundy in the team next week, but JL really likes him from everything I've seen so far. Picking a 22 is no easy task but I currently have it looking something like this.

Logue - Pearce - Ryan
Young - Cox - Clark
Aish - Brayshaw - Frederick
Walters - Treacy - Schultz
Switta - Taberner - Lobb
Darcy - Fyfe - Serong
Mundy - Henry - Chapman - Brodie

No O ‘Driscoll for the bench.

 

[Vicwood]

Still have some wriggle room with cash on hand.

For R1 Gawn, need to see WCE next game and who is on deck in the MID rotation.

Dunkley F1, Dusty looked like more “CBA” and time around the sherrin in general play.

Steele Oliver at M2, gut feeling Tracca goes 120+ this year and adds the Brownlow to the trophy cabinet.

Gone Risky with D4, but I believe Hewitt wasn’t bought into the Blues for defensive or tagging duties.

All comment welcome. AAMI should provide more info on roles and the rookies that will start.