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Hi Rowsus, after hearing the news of possible sanctions for Jobe Watson do you think it is better to keep him out of our sides? He didnt perform well in the NAB cup and i think rockliff or Fyfe could outperform him anyway
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Hi lakb24,
I don't believe there will be any sanctions, as in the end it is the AFL that decides what, if any, penalties. Still, that being said, there is still a chance it will happen, and even the long drawn out process hanging over those 12 players heads must be having some affect. I think it is wise to avoid Watson for the moment, and that goes double for Hibberd. Given he's got the same problem, and a hamstring niggle, he's out of my team until he shows he's 100%, and even then I will think twice.
 

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Thanks for the clarification on Brodie Smith.

With Cunnington, I'm a bit concerned that he might get the no. 1 tag (although ziebell might get it?) - thinking of not starting him and have a look at Cunners after the bye to see where he's at.

I was also interested in Mitch Duncan but he's so hard to fit in the midfield with all the value available.
Interesting, I was right on Cunnington till you said that. Surely Wells or NDS are going to get the no.1 tag at the Roos?
 

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Interesting, I was right on Cunnington till you said that. Surely Wells or NDS are going to get the no.1 tag at the Roos?
Cunnington still has a touch of the FTB's about him. I expect he will improve after the bye, when Norths draw opens up a bit. That doesn't mean he is of no use before then, though.
 

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Hi lakb24,
I don't believe there will be any sanctions, as in the end it is the AFL that decides what, if any, penalties. Still, that being said, there is still a chance it will happen, and even the long drawn out process hanging over those 12 players heads must be having some affect. I think it is wise to avoid Watson for the moment, and that goes double for Hibberd. Given he's got the same problem, and a hamstring niggle, he's out of my team until he shows he's 100%, and even then I will think twice.
My understanding is that ASADA & WADA still get to 'oversee' any potential penalties handed out by the AFL & if they aren't satisfied, they can appeal. :confused:

I recall this was the case with a VFL footballer getting his penalty appealed & altered by ASADA;

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...k-of-information/story-e6frg6n6-1226689067381

Clark was banned for nine months after being given a drink called Hemo Rage, which contained the prohibited substance dimethylpentylamine.

ASADA appealed against his sentence and his ban was increased to two years, meaning Clark is due to return in May next year.

 
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My understanding is that ASADA & WADA still get to 'oversee' any potential penalties handed out by the AFL & if they aren't satisfied, they can appeal. :confused: [/I]
That was also my understanding, hence the titles of Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority and World Anti-Doping Authority. I thought ASADA would provide "assistance" to the AFL and recommend/oversee all the penalties and sanctions. If the AFL didn't adhere to most/all of the recommendations, ASADA has the power to appeal. If ASADA and WADA don't have these powers, what is their point of existence?

If i am wrong, someone please correct me.
 

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My understanding is that ASADA & WADA still get to 'oversee' any potential penalties handed out by the AFL & if they aren't satisfied, they can appeal. :confused:

I recall this was the case with a VFL footballer getting his penalty appealed & altered by ASADA;

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...k-of-information/story-e6frg6n6-1226689067381

Clark was banned for nine months after being given a drink called Hemo Rage, which contained the prohibited substance dimethylpentylamine.

ASADA appealed against his sentence and his ban was increased to two years, meaning Clark is due to return in May next year.

That was also my understanding, hence the titles of Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority and World Anti-Doping Authority. I thought ASADA would provide "assistance" to the AFL and recommend/oversee all the penalties and sanctions. If the AFL didn't adhere to most/all of the recommendations, ASADA has the power to appeal. If ASADA and WADA don't have these powers, what is their point of existence?

If i am wrong, someone please correct me.
You are both probably right, I was just quoting what I read in the Herald-Sun when it all hit the fan last week.
I quoted the article in another thread, and will see if I can find it for you. It was the one where the 12 players where named etc.
 
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Hi Rowsus,

My question is in relation to the clear lack of cheap forward rookies and how much a trade is worth during the season.

I think Taylor and Kersten will be 2 of the best forward rookies this year. Like many good rooks in the past - eg j pod, rocky, vlastuin, terlich they won't play r 1. If I think they may be on the bubble somewhere before the bye is it worth starting one of them at F8.

My theory is that it would save a trade and the potential F8 may not have made enough money to be worth it. Eg McDonough, McCarthy, Merrett or another random cheap fwd that gets a gig R1. How much would one of these starting F8's need to make in cash to be worth starting over a more blue chip rookie like kersten or taylor? Most ordinary fwd rooks seem to take an age just to get to 240k and I think not getting the 120k from them is ok if I save a trade.

Don't know if the above makes sense but am interested in your thoughts
 
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Hey Rowsus,

Just wondering if you have stuck with Pendlebury. I had him in there but have since taken him out and replaced with Libba.
The extra $ I have spent on extra premo (Enright) in the backs and taken a riskier approach with mid pricers like Caddy/Higgins as there are no good rookies.
 

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Hey Rowsus,

Just wondering if you have stuck with Pendlebury. I had him in there but have since taken him out and replaced with Libba.
The extra $ I have spent on extra premo (Enright) in the backs and taken a riskier approach with mid pricers like Caddy/Higgins as there are no good rookies.
Definitely stuck with Pendles. My philosophy on selection is, pick the 2 players you want as Captain loophole material first, then Rookies, then see what you can do. Libba is looking good, so I can't knock your thought process there. I actually had Enright sitting in my team for 2 days this week, but he's back out again. I am hoping to get him though. I've gone with Caddy over Higgins. He seems less likely to get injured, and given Higgins best season was an 89 in 2009, and his best since is an 83, I think Caddy has more upside to him. I only have 4 mid pricers in my team right now, and I'm hoping/trying to avoid more.
 

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Hi Rowsus,

My question is in relation to the clear lack of cheap forward rookies and how much a trade is worth during the season.

I think Taylor and Kersten will be 2 of the best forward rookies this year. Like many good rooks in the past - eg j pod, rocky, vlastuin, terlich they won't play r 1. If I think they may be on the bubble somewhere before the bye is it worth starting one of them at F8.

My theory is that it would save a trade and the potential F8 may not have made enough money to be worth it. Eg McDonough, McCarthy, Merrett or another random cheap fwd that gets a gig R1. How much would one of these starting F8's need to make in cash to be worth starting over a more blue chip rookie like kersten or taylor? Most ordinary fwd rooks seem to take an age just to get to 240k and I think not getting the 120k from them is ok if I save a trade.

Don't know if the above makes sense but am interested in your thoughts
Hi Blaze,
your thought process is right, just be careful of your catagorizing though. I'm not 100% convinced that Taylor and Kersten are so blue chip compared to the others. Even though we know the excuses, Kersten and Taylor haven't been seen too much yet. Taylor in particular with foot problems worries me. It's not the first time he had them, so if you go with your plan, Kesrten might be better, but I still think it is possible you are just swapping one problem for another.
 
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Hey Rowsus (and other people),

Just wondering if anyone is deliberately leaving cash left over this year.
I am trying to work out a fairly good team with at least a couple of hundred thousand left over.
Simply due to the uncertainty of fwd and def rookies this year, not too mention risky Ruck choices, I am thinking of holding back a little and waiting to see what happens in the first few rounds.
 

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Hey Rowsus (and other people),

Just wondering if anyone is deliberately leaving cash left over this year.
I am trying to work out a fairly good team with at least a couple of hundred thousand left over.
Simply due to the uncertainty of fwd and def rookies this year, not too mention risky Ruck choices, I am thinking of holding back a little and waiting to see what happens in the first few rounds.
Hey Slammer,
the same as every other year. I'm not going out of my way to keep money, and I'm not going out of my way to spend it all either.
When I'm happy with my team whatever is left, is left.
 

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Hi Rowsus,

I really enjoy your stats work, but am interested to know how you address a situation where the qualitative disagrees with the quantitative. Specifically Buddy Franklin. The stats say he is a great underpriced premium, but looking at his preseason performance suggests otherwise. I think it was you who suggested that the quad injury is a big red flag, and he has clearly been managed this preseason.

Is he still a good buy at that price? Stats say yes, observation says no

Further impacting the decision is that all the other options are uninspiring.
My Forwardline, like many others, is:
Dangerfield, Martin, Pavlich, ?, Caddy, Higgins, rookie, rookie
2 x premium
1 x fallen premium
1 x improvement + role change = projected points increase
1 x high rookie priced burnman risk with high job security & decent scoring potential

Another rookie? I dont like more than 2 fwd rookies at this stage, and I dont like the high rookie options (Rohan/Bennedy)
Another nearly-premium? I'm not sure about gambling on one of Parker/Titchell/Wingard to back up last years efforts
Another full premium? I have no idea which premium forwards will be in the top 6 beyond Martin and Danger
Or Buddy?

Is there one option 'less bad' than the rest, or more statistically likely to yield a good outcome?
Or is it all down to a shot in the dark now?
 
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Hi Rowsus.

Any views on Troy Menzel and Sam Blease? Both have potential to be used in different ways by their respective coaches this year. Menzel filling Betts' role.

Roos seems to think Blease is in the best 22, whether is body holds together is another matter.

Thanks.
 

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Hey Rowsus, just wondering if you'll be doing the brownlow thread again? Will you be making any changes this year or will it be the same as last year? Cant wait! :D
 

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Hi Rowsus,

I was just wondering from a stats point of view how important you rate a floating donut? I currently have Zach Merrett in my forwards as a cash cow, but am debating switching Thurlow to the forward line and using his DPP with Ben Brown as a non-playing R4.

My initial thoughts were that cash generation at the start is key and I can worry about loopholes later on. Especially with the lack of R/F premiums to make Brown still useful after Thurlow has been cashed in. But I can't see Merrett's cash generation being huge and I'd then likely miss out on loophole opportunities for the first few rounds at least.

Thanks!
 
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Hi Rowsus,
Hey as a Dees supporter could you fill this in to give me your idea of likely round 1 team for Melbourne ?

Melbourne Round 1 Team

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HB
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Foll:
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Emg:
I'll have to give that some thought, and get back to you Oz.
Given it enough thought yet ? or maybe you not seen enough play from Challenge games to give your idea of what it may be for 1st round.

If not, don't worry about it. Might be a challenge in Denmark seeing enough footage to give one.
 

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Hi Rowsus,

I really enjoy your stats work, but am interested to know how you address a situation where the qualitative disagrees with the quantitative. Specifically Buddy Franklin. The stats say he is a great underpriced premium, but looking at his preseason performance suggests otherwise. I think it was you who suggested that the quad injury is a big red flag, and he has clearly been managed this preseason.

Is he still a good buy at that price? Stats say yes, observation says no

Further impacting the decision is that all the other options are uninspiring.
My Forwardline, like many others, is:
Dangerfield, Martin, Pavlich, ?, Caddy, Higgins, rookie, rookie
2 x premium
1 x fallen premium
1 x improvement + role change = projected points increase
1 x high rookie priced burnman risk with high job security & decent scoring potential

Another rookie? I dont like more than 2 fwd rookies at this stage, and I dont like the high rookie options (Rohan/Bennedy)
Another nearly-premium? I'm not sure about gambling on one of Parker/Titchell/Wingard to back up last years efforts
Another full premium? I have no idea which premium forwards will be in the top 6 beyond Martin and Danger
Or Buddy?

Is there one option 'less bad' than the rest, or more statistically likely to yield a good outcome?
Or is it all down to a shot in the dark now?
Hi RocketPip,

really good question, but hard to nail down an exact answer for you, particularly statistically.
There is no doubt backing players to maintain last years level, or return to previous levels (as long as they weren't too far back!), has a statistically better history, than trying to find players to take their game to a new level.
The funny thing with Buddy is we tend to look at him differently, because he is Buddy. Imagine we were looking at Fred Nerk, and Fred was priced the same as Buddy is today. If we picked Fred in our initial team, and he averaged 95 for the season, we'd say "good job, I filled my F4/5 cheaply". Given Buddy's history, it's hard not to feel it should have been better, and it was even a mini-fail if he does the same thing. We that feel that way need to move past it, and assign our expectations to the dollar value attached.
As to assessing the qualitative against the quantitative, there is no specific way to do that. Buddy looks bigger than we have seen him, and he's not moving how we know he can move. His speed and agility used to look effortless, and now it looks a little laboured. You touched on the quad injury. Yes, it is a red flag to me, every single time. Think Zaharakis 2012, he was listed as 3-4 for about 8-9 weeks! Think Beams last season. Before round 1 we were expecting/hoping he'd be back round 4 or 5. Nope! They were players that they could afford to be patient with. We don't know what the situation with Buddy is, but possibly he is carrying a niggle, and they are playing him anyway. When you commit $10 million dollars, with a strategy of "We'll make half of it back on the extra bums on seats when he plays", he better play! Maybe, and I have no idea I'm just spitballing here, it's a case of them knowing there is an injury there, and they've been told there is no prognosis. He could be better in 2 weeks, he could be better in 12 weeks. But the injury is unlikely to get worse by playing him. Either way, I'm believing my eyes, from the little I've seen of him this preseason, and reading between the lines of how much he's been out on the ground, that things aren't 100% right. That being the case, I'm backing my qualitative over the quantitative, in this case. Every case needs to be taken on it's own merits, and you need to weigh up the pros and cons for yourself. I weighed it up, and said from what I've seen and read, the risk is too great. Even if he pumps out a big score round 1, I will cop it on the chin, and see what happens in the next few weeks after that, before I decide if I was right or wrong.
If you decide to dump him it is hard to know who is best ot replace him. Parker or Mitchell actually need to take a step up if you take them. Last years scores won't cut it. Wingard's scores would be ok, if he could repeat them. Roughies scores from last year are good enough, too. I tossed up between Parker and Mitchell for days, and ended up dumping them both for Roughie. He's a risk too, but if he stays fit, he should be good enough to hold a season long top 10-12 Fwd spot. Maybe even F3. History would say Roughie and Wingard are the safer options, followed by Buddy, then Parker/Mitchell. Existing or most current form, over returning to previous level, over setting new levels. But temepred with believing and analysing what you see in front of you.
 
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Hi Rowsus.

Any views on Troy Menzel and Sam Blease? Both have potential to be used in different ways by their respective coaches this year. Menzel filling Betts' role.

Roos seems to think Blease is in the best 22, whether is body holds together is another matter.

Thanks.
I am not convinced about either being in their Clubs best 22 right now. Even though are both cheaply priced, I think there are better options out there.
 
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