Discussion 2022 AFL: Practice Matches & AAMI Community Series Discussion

[Herbie66]

Even with our full midfield he's still around 4th/5th mid, which is about where Berry sits too. Yet Berry is a lock and Caldwell a trap 🤔.

Who is he ahead out of McGrath , Merrett , Parish , Shiel & Stringer ?

Just curious as I don't know the pecking order at all.

 

[Shaunpro1]

Even with our full midfield he's still around 4th/5th mid, which is about where Berry sits too. Yet Berry is a lock and Caldwell a trap 🤔.

Difference is Berry can score playing on the wing and doesnt rely on bulk CBA's, Caldwell isnt in the midfield his scoring output drops off massively.

 

[N29]

It's pretty clear Caldwell is going to be a very good footballer (still played less than 15 games mind you). Don't think you can write him off at his price tag regardless of midfield rotation. Is it because he is mid only? That really shouldn't make a difference as a cash cow option.

Berry, Caldwell and potentially after today Polec (named on a wing) all present as interesting options IMO.

 

[Leroy]

Can somebody please explain the scoring system for supercoach afl, would really appreciate it

Try this article to start:
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...ws-story/1354e8aff8390ca80726225943120f30?amp

Main difference with SC compared to other formats is that the effectiveness of a disposal matters: put a 30m kick to a 1:1 that puts the ball into dispute: ineffective disposal = 0 SC pts; other formats you get points for the kick.

There's much more intricacies than what's written there but it's a good start.

 

[Uncle Drew]

Who is he ahead out of McGrath , Merrett , Parish , Shiel & Stringer ?

Just curious as I don't know the pecking order at all.

I put him about the same as McGrath, ahead of Stringer. Stringer will get more CBAs for sure, but less overall mid time as we need him forward.

For CBAs he probably drops to 5th/6th. But I think people put too much emphasis on CBAs, there's a lot of players who start outside the centre, but push up for stoppages and around the ground, where there's plenty of points to be had.

 

[Connoisseur]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1500065276016082944

 

[Uncle Drew]

Difference is Berry can score playing on the wing and doesnt rely on bulk CBA's, Caldwell isnt in the midfield his scoring output drops off massively.

I don't think Caldwell needs huge CBAs, just to be able to push up to stoppages around the ground. I can easily see him averaging 80 in that role and making 150k, which is more than I can say for most of the rookie options.

I do think Berry is a better option, but not by that much. Thinking Berry is a lock, and not even considering Caldwell, is just confirmation bias IMO.

 

[Leroy]

Locked for me

At D2? I've comfortably had Lloyd and Crisp ahead of him for now but might take a second think after seeing how the games fall today.

Lloyd named on a wing is a bit hmm

 

[Tex]

New team, no preseason matches and no discounts makes him an upgrade target for sure. I would like to see him play first if I'm paying 550k for him.

This ^

 

[Meltingpot38]

Thanks for these comments. Excellent context here. If others didn’t watch the game and saw the score, Caldwell will get included in teams. In my opinion, the previous preseason game (not last night) showed Caldwell’s more likely role which would translate to lower scores. However, I could be completely wrong ! Again, this is the beauty of the SC game - different opinions so back your gut ! As a disclaimer, I picked Caldwell at the start of last year in my starting team - but that was before Parish’s break out and Stringer’s emergence as midfield package.

Agreed I’d stay away from Caldwell. Just don’t know how it’s going to play out with the uncertainties mentioned. I think Berry is a much safer bet

 

[Meltingpot38]

GWS v Collingwood at Giants Stadium, 12.40pm AEDT

GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY

B: I.Cumming 13 S.Taylor 15 P.Davis 1
HB: L.Whitfield 6 L.Keeffe 25 H.Perryman 36
C: L.Ash 7 T.Green 12 X.O'Halloran 33
HF: T.Taranto 14 J.Riccardi 26 D.Lloyd 38
F: B.Hill 37 H.Himmelberg 27 C.Stone 18
Foll: M.Flynn 30 J.Kelly - C 22 S.Coniglio 3
I/C: J.Hopper 2 C.Ward 8 T.Bruhn 5 B.Preuss 11 C.Idun 39 J.Brander 31 J.Peatling 20 R.Angwin 9

Emerg: L.Aleer 21 J.Stein 42 W.Shaw 35 A.Kennedy 40

Notable absentees: Jesse Hogan, Toby Greene, Matt de Boer

COLLINGWOOD

B: N.Murphy 28 D.Moore 30 J.Madgen 44
HB: N.Daicos 35 B.Maynard 37 S.Pendlebury - C 10
C: J.Daicos 7 P.Lipinski 1 S.Sidebottom 22
HF: B.McCreery 31 M.Cox 46 W.Hoskin-Elliott 32
F: N.Kreuger 15 J.De Goey 2 J.Elliott 5
Foll: B.Grundy 4 J.Crisp 25 T.Brown 6
I/C: F.Macrae 18 J.Ginnivan 33 J.Noble 9 O.Henry 16 C.Brown 17 T.Ruscoe 21 T.Bianco 8 D.Cameron 14

Emerg: C.Poulter 24 R.McInnes 26 W.Kelly 20 T.Wilson 12

Notable absentees: Jeremy Howe, Jordan Roughead, Taylor Adams, Brody Mihocek, Isaac Quaynor

Sydney v North Melbourne at Giants Stadium, 4.20pm AEDT

SYDNEY

B: T.McCartin 30 D.Rampe 24 H.Cunningham 7
HB: J.McInerney 27 S.Reid 20 B.Campbell 16
C: J.Lloyd 44 J.Kennedy 12 N.Blakey 22
HF: I.Heeney 5 P.McCartin 39 E.Gulden 21
F: C.Warner 1 L.McDonald 6 W.Hayward 9
Foll: T.Hickey 31 L.Parker - C 26 J.Rowbottom 8
I/C: O.Florent 13 H.McLean 2 B.Ronke 25 C.Mills 14 D.Stephens 3 L.McAndrew 46 S.Wicks 15 M.Roberts 34

Emerg: A.Sheldrick 29 P.Ladhams 19 R.Fox 42 J.Bell 32

Notable absentees: Tom Papley, Lance Franklin, Peter Ladhams

NORTH MELBOURNE

B: J.Ziebell - C 7 A.Corr 4 K.Turner 28
HB: L.McDonald 11 J.Walker 19 La.Young 17
C: B.Scott 8 H.Greenwood 18 J.Polec 13
HF: T.Thomas 26 N.Larkey 20 C.Taylor 5
F: J.Mahony 1 J.Stephenson 2 J.Horne-Francis 6
Foll: T.Xerri 38 L.Davies-Uniacke 9 J.Simpkin 12
I/C: T.Goldstein 22 T.Powell 24 W.Phillips 29 J.Goater 31 C.Lazzaro 35 K.Hayden 37 E.Ford 40 C.Zurhaar 44

Emerg: A.Bosenavulagi 15 P.Curtis 25 M.Bergman 27 P.Walker 33

Notable absentees: Jed Anderson, Callum Coleman-Jones, Ben McKay

Fremantle v West Coast at Optus Stadium, 4.10pm AWST

FREMANTLE

B: L.Ryan 13 B.Cox 36 A.Pearce 25
HB: H.Young 26 G.Logue 2 J.Clark 6
C: A.Brayshaw 8 W.Brodie 17 L.Henry 23
HF: T.Colyer 33 B.Acres 9 M.Walters 10
F: M.Taberner 20 R.Lobb 37 L.Schultz 5
Foll: S.Darcy 4 C.Serong 3 S.Switkowski 39
I/C: M.Frederick 32 B.Banfield 41 M.Crowden 12 D.Mundy - C 16 H.Chapman 27 N.Wilson 14 E.Hughes 15 L.Meek 22

Emerg: N.O'Driscoll 30 C.Blakely 19 J.Hamling 21 J.Western 34

Notable absentees: Nat Fyfe, Darcy Tucker

WEST COAST

B: J.Rotham 35 T.Barrass 37 S.Hurn 25
HB: A.Witherden 23 J.McGovern 20 J.Nelson 30
C: A.Gaff 3 J.Redden 8 L.Foley 29
HF: J.Petruccelle 21 H.Dixon 41 W.Rioli 44
F: L.Ryan 1 J.Kennedy 17 B.Williams 32
Foll: N.Naitanui - C 9 T.Kelly 11 J.Jones 31
I/C: Z.Langdon 7 S.Petrevski-Seton 10 B.Hough 19 X.O'Neill 24 T.Joyce 26 C.West 36 P.Naish 38 C.Jamieson 40

Emerg: I.Winder 22 J.Williams 34 J.Waterman 2 L.Edwards 16

Notable absentees: Dom Sheed, Jamie Cripps, Jack Darling, Oscar Allen, Campbell Chesser, Elliot Yeo, Luke Shuey, Liam Duggan

Great to see Dixon named on field!
Have him at F8 linked with Hayes at R3

 

[Connoisseur]

Can somebody please explain the scoring system for supercoach afl, would really appreciate it

Target players that prefer to kick rather than handball, that also boast an average or above average disposal or kicking efficiency and contribute to many scoring categories (tackles, marks, etc).

Def: Target players that are highly efficient by foot with a very high kick to handball ratio as well as registering intercept marks or a lot of uncontested marks. If chasing those earmarked for a midfield role make sure it is clearly defined, coupled with a low possibility of returning to the backline if the team has sufficient depth to cover any injuries without being swung back.

Mids: When paying a premium make sure it is not for a predominantly outside midfielder, as you will be overly reliant on them accumulating a large amount of the ball to compensate for their lack of contribution in other categories such as tackles and contested possessions which help to raise the scoring floor for players in this position. Due to registering a lot of their possessions in close proximity this takes a hit to to their disposal efficiency as well being likely to handball more than kick. Finding players that can balance the aforementioned very well provides much needed consistency and increases your ceiling.

Rucks: Target the best tap ruckmen (eg those with above average Hitout to advantage rates) that also pair this with a high work rate around the ground which leads to intercept marks, goals or recording 15+ disposals.

Fwds: Steer clear of expensive key position forwards unless they are very mobile and can gather a lot of the ball around the ground and not overly reliant on kicking 4+ goals on a regular basis. Target those with high midfield rotations or players receiving a role change to the other end of the ground (not as a lockdown role). Best place to seek value and avoid overspending as it is common practice for younger players to transition from a forward role to a midfield role after a few seasons.

 

[AryaBosses]

Target players that prefer to kick rather than handball, that also boast an average or above average disposal or kicking efficiency and contribute to many scoring categories (tackles, marks, etc).

Def: Target players that are highly efficient by foot with a very high kick to handball ratio as well as registering intercept marks or a lot of uncontested marks. If chasing those earmarked for a midfield role make sure it is clearly defined, coupled with a low possibility of returning to the backline if the team has sufficient depth to cover any injuries without being swung back.

Mids: When paying a premium make sure it is not for a predominantly outside midfielder, as you will be overly reliant on them accumulating a large amount of the ball to compensate for their lack of contribution in other categories such as tackles and contested possessions which help to raise the scoring floor for players in this position. Due to registering a lot of their possessions in close proximity this takes a hit to to their disposal efficiency as well being likely to handball more than kick. Finding players that can balance the aforementioned very well provides much needed consistency and increases your ceiling.

Rucks: Target the best tap ruckmen (eg those with above average Hitout to advantage rates) that also pair this with a high work rate around the ground which leads to intercept marks, goals or recording 15+ disposals.

Fwds: Steer clear of expensive key position forwards unless they are very mobile and can gather a lot of the ball around the ground and not overly reliant on kicking 4+ goals on a regular basis. Target those with high midfield rotations or players receiving a role change to the other end of the ground (not as a lockdown role). Best place to seek value and avoid overspending as it is common practice for younger players to transition from a forward role to a midfield role after a few seasons.

So guys to target for each position

Def: Short, Ridley, Dawson, Crisp

Mid: Macrae, Steele, Oliver, Miller, Walsh (if notinjured), Neale

Ruck: Gawn, Grundy, Darcy

Fwd: Dunkley, Duncan, Taranto, Heeney, Butters, Weller, Brodie, Cogs

 

[Juzzo]

Target players that prefer to kick rather than handball, that also boast an average or above average disposal or kicking efficiency and contribute to many scoring categories (tackles, marks, etc).

Def: Target players that are highly efficient by foot with a very high kick to handball ratio as well as registering intercept marks or a lot of uncontested marks. If chasing those earmarked for a midfield role make sure it is clearly defined, coupled with a low possibility of returning to the backline if the team has sufficient depth to cover any injuries without being swung back.

Mids: When paying a premium make sure it is not for a predominantly outside midfielder, as you will be overly reliant on them accumulating a large amount of the ball to compensate for their lack of contribution in other categories such as tackles and contested possessions which help to raise the scoring floor for players in this position. Due to registering a lot of their possessions in close proximity this takes a hit to to their disposal efficiency as well being likely to handball more than kick. Finding players that can balance the aforementioned very well provides much needed consistency and increases your ceiling.

Rucks: Target the best tap ruckmen (eg those with above average Hitout to advantage rates) that also pair this with a high work rate around the ground which leads to intercept marks, goals or recording 15+ disposals.

Fwds: Steer clear of expensive key position forwards unless they are very mobile and can gather a lot of the ball around the ground and not overly reliant on kicking 4+ goals on a regular basis. Target those with high midfield rotations or players receiving a role change to the other end of the ground (not as a lockdown role). Best place to seek value and avoid overspending as it is common practice for younger players to transition from a forward role to a midfield role after a few seasons.

Very good tips here, but I think he was asking for the SC scoring system, no?

 

[Juzzo]

So guys to target for each position

Def: Short, Ridley, Dawson, Crisp

Mid: Macrae, Steele, Oliver, Miller, Walsh (if notinjured), Neale

Ruck: Gawn, Grundy, Darcy

Fwd: Dunkley, Duncan, Taranto, Heeney, Butters, Weller, Brodie, Cogs

Now trim that list, add rookies and you're done!

 

[Herbie66]

I put him about the same as McGrath, ahead of Stringer. Stringer will get more CBAs for sure, but less overall mid time as we need him forward.

For CBAs he probably drops to 5th/6th. But I think people put too much emphasis on CBAs, there's a lot of players who start outside the centre, but push up for stoppages and around the ground, where there's plenty of points to be had.

Thanks for that.

Totally agree , once the ball bounces the entire team is just , pretty much 50 metres away from the ball involved in a rolling maul in any case.

 

[Shaunpro1]

I don't think Caldwell needs huge CBAs, just to be able to push up to stoppages around the ground. I can easily see him averaging 80 in that role and making 150k, which is more than I can say for most of the rookie options.

I do think Berry is a better option, but not by that much. Thinking Berry is a lock, and not even considering Caldwell, is just confirmation bias IMO.

Caldwell virtually didn't leave the forward line with 3 CBA's and only had 15 touches in the trial game with their full midfield minus Stringer actually playing full minutes, just think people are going to get burned here, Berry is a far better option.

 

[Zim^zuM]

Have Geelong and Gold Coast named their teams

 

[AryaBosses]

Very good tips here, but I think he was asking for the SC scoring system, no?

Yes I was, would appreciate sent me the actual scoring system but very good information from Connoisseur so thanks anyways

 

[Toothless Tigers]

Have Geelong and Gold Coast named their teams

https://www.afl.com.au/news/713381/aami-teams-superstars-missing-in-action-de-goey-returns

Here are the teams link in the AFL