Position 2022: Forward Discussion

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Better question is who have you got that's cheaper and not needed more in defense? Right now I've got Rachele on the bench in the mids because that's how the rookies look to me that he's a "cheap" bench guy...
Yes there is so few rookies available in defence I might have to pick someone like Bowey @ $265,000 who has good js.
Chapman was named on an extended bench.
 
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Gonna swerve Rachele. Feels too-owned for me and I think his scoring will be poor.

Heeney seems more like a trade-in target to me now. Look at him in 2H when Papley is back and he sees some time in the guts. Concerned about T.Thomas role too, so I’ve ended up with Bailey. I don’t hate it.
I feel the same about Rachele but can't find 2 good fwd bench rookies that are better than him, so he remains in my team for now. Who have you got on your bench instead of Rachele?
 
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I feel the same about Rachele but can't find 2 good fwd bench rookies that are better than him, so he remains in my team for now. Who have you got on your bench instead of Rachele?
Durdin should be everyones F7 for mine as long as hes named, F8 really there is nobody thats looking secure so may aswell punt on Dixon/Martin.
 
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Durdin should be everyones F7 for mine as long as hes named, F8 really there is nobody thats looking secure so may aswell punt on Dixon/Martin.
I put Durdin in the same boat as Rachele. Good JS, poor scorer, will probably struggle to make enough cash. But I'd rather have Rachele to covering injuries than Durdin, so I've currently got Rachele ahead.

F8 could be De Koning with McCartin on field down back (for DPP purposes) in some set ups.
That's true, it would be good to use De Koning and McCartin to cover both lines. But then you end up swapping a dodgy F8 with a dodgy D8.
 
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I’m also interested in this.

Does anybody have any indication of what Xerri’s role will be and whether he still plays when CCJ is back?
CCJ himself said he left Richmond because he wanted to play more ruck, which also seemed to be part of North's pitch to him. Do they give CCJ the ruck role just to keep him happy? It is strange because he is better as a forward.

Personally, I think the best structure for North right now is Xerri ruck with Larkey, CCJ & Goldstein up forward. Goldstein then moves into the ruck when Xerri needs a rest.
 
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I’m also interested in this.

Does anybody have any indication of what Xerri’s role will be and whether he still plays when CCJ is back?
If his role isn’t “fighting Goldstein for #1 ruck responsibility” I’d be pretty surprised.

Don’t think they can play all 3 personally and can’t see CCJ being left out so leaves Xerri in no man’s land if they still want Goldy in there.

Potential to be the #1 rookie this year imo.
 
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If his role isn’t “fighting Goldstein for #1 ruck responsibility” I’d be pretty surprised.

Don’t think they can play all 3 personally and can’t see CCJ being left out so leaves Xerri in no man’s land if they still want Goldy in there.

Potential to be the #1 rookie this year imo.
Sorry mate, bit confused by this? You are saying Xerri could be the number one rookie, but might not actually get picked?
 
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Sorry mate, bit confused by this? You are saying Xerri could be the number one rookie, but might not actually get picked?
If he's playing then he's got a better pathway to good scores than pretty much anyone else around his price in the comp imo. However, if he's the unlucky one out of the three, then he won't get picked. That's how I feel anyway.
 
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If his role isn’t “fighting Goldstein for #1 ruck responsibility” I’d be pretty surprised.

Don’t think they can play all 3 personally and can’t see CCJ being left out so leaves Xerri in no man’s land if they still want Goldy in there.

Potential to be the #1 rookie this year imo.
Xerri is far better in the ruck than CCJ, when given opportunities in the ruck at the tigers CCJ was very ordinary/ looked much better as a tall fwd target.
Xerri has a real agro about him in the ruck, seems to thrive on the physicality part/ wants to hurt his opponents - I think Noble would love seeing this. CCJ doesn't bring that to the table when rucking. Goldy actually looked good playing as tall fwd so it is an interesting conundrum for North, it really depends on how they want to structure up but I personally think Xerri will given plenty of time in the ruck from how good he looked in the preseason games/ Noble saying he would be in the top 4-5 players in their preseason training this year.
 
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CCJ himself said he left Richmond because he wanted to play more ruck, which also seemed to be part of North's pitch to him. Do they give CCJ the ruck role just to keep him happy? It is strange because he is better as a forward.

Personally, I think the best structure for North right now is Xerri ruck with Larkey, CCJ & Goldstein up forward. Goldstein then moves into the ruck when Xerri needs a rest.
I thought North's interest in CCJ as a ruck was really strange. Based on what I saw at Richmond he's good if you want him to stand under the ball and take contested marks and that's about it. His mobility is terrible, you can't get away with that kind of turning circle these days.
 
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I’m also interested in this.

Does anybody have any indication of what Xerri’s role will be and whether he still plays when CCJ is back?
If you can divine what is in Noble's mind you'll have the answer ;)

Goldy is the best ruck at the club. But he'll be 34 this year and will possibly be retired by the time we next tilt at the flag, so the question is: do you play your best ruck as #1 to be as competitive as you can or do you give the time to your up and coming #2 (Xerri) and possibly lose more games (this year anyway)?

As others have picked up on, CCJ needs a lot of work to be competitive as a ruckman, but he can crunch packs and kick a bag - something we badly need up forward.

I hope Noble gives the role to Xerri - it's best for the club. Don't know if we play all of Goldy/CCJ/Larkey as forward targets though :unsure:
 
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The durability record of the top mids compared to the forwards would say that it's much easier on the body to play midfield than forward. The significantly reduced amount of jumping alone would be a pretty strong reason for this.

It's a fair point though that he needs managing, his durability record is quite simply a train wreck.
Maybe that's why Membrey is pretty durable, he jumps of 2 legs just about all the time.
 
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F8 could be De Koning with McCartin on field down back (for DPP purposes) in some set ups.
Please let me know who you're taking down back if taking SDK out!

CCJ himself said he left Richmond because he wanted to play more ruck, which also seemed to be part of North's pitch to him. Do they give CCJ the ruck role just to keep him happy? It is strange because he is better as a forward.

Personally, I think the best structure for North right now is Xerri ruck with Larkey, CCJ & Goldstein up forward. Goldstein then moves into the ruck when Xerri needs a rest.
I mean I want to go to bed every night with a prime Adriana Lima but sometimes we have to accept that what we want doesn't remotely align with what we have to offer.

I thought North's interest in CCJ as a ruck was really strange. Based on what I saw at Richmond he's good if you want him to stand under the ball and take contested marks and that's about it. His mobility is terrible, you can't get away with that kind of turning circle these days.
They wouldn't be the first club to tell a guy what he wants to hear to get a deal done.

Ultimately, CCJ as 2nd ruck would be a significant liability for North as a first ruck it would be suicide. I'd say that Shaun Grigg was a genuinely more competitive ruckman than CCJ was in his two games this preseason.

Still think there's room for all 3 though, Larkey is a very good athlete, Goldy is a good athlete who is very good at ground level for his size, Xerri is very physical and also competes at ground level. CCJ is a good aerial target, his ground level work is suspect and I think he's definitely the one who is the guy who has to demand they play them all alongside Xerri.

I mean the Demons just won a flag with Brown, McDonald, Jackson and Gawn, there's not a huge difference in the overall mobility there.

Really though, team sheet round 1 will dictate it. Xerri is a good enough player that I'd back him to hold the spot if he gets the chance at round 1 but it's definitely not a pick without significant risks. Positive is there are a lot of bailout candidates for it, genuine 85+ role if he takes it.
 
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Might just start Curnow & Xerri on the bench and see if anything more viable appears after 2 Rounds.

Dunkley * , Heeney , Butters , Coniglio * , McGovern , Brodie * / Curnow , Xerri

Like em all , thought about "hiding" Cogs & Brodie in the mids but think I will start both Cripps & Rowell with Macrae , Neale , Berry & the 3 Musketeers.

Leaves rookie at D5 & D6 which I don't like but nearly at the stage where I can't look at my team much more , just start the bloody season already.
 
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Might just start Curnow & Xerri on the bench and see if anything more viable appears after 2 Rounds.

Dunkley * , Heeney , Butters , Coniglio * , McGovern , Brodie * / Curnow , Xerri

Like em all , thought about "hiding" Cogs & Brodie in the mids but think I will start both Cripps & Rowell with Macrae , Neale , Berry & the 3 Musketeers.

Leaves rookie at D5 & D6 which I don't like but nearly at the stage where I can't look at my team much more , just start the bloody season already.
Didn't Mcgov leave the ground with hammy tightness last week?
 
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