Discussion 2022: Rookie Discussion
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He was winning ball a bit up the ground in the two pre-season games. First praccy he had 17 disposals from memory. From a JS perspective he's as solid a pick as you can get for your bench with the potential to have games where he will kick a few goals and score an 80. Wouldn't dream of fielding him though.
Thanks @AngryAnt @Shaunpro1. My impression was that Durdin’s scoring might be questionable, but good JS with a chance of spike games might suffice if there aren’t better options.
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Agree, his comparison last year would be Rowe, when he kicks a couple or sets a couple up it's going to be 80ish and when he doesn't it will be 40s.
I wouldn't go as far as great job security as they do have some depth to challenge but it sure seems he's on the inside track and it's his spot to lose which makes him pretty much the cheapest rookie this year who meets that criteria.
Saw OMc mentioned early and agree entirely with @Bontempele that it looks like there's one spot between him and Young, I think OMc was slightly better in the preseason but it's only just, possession is 9/10ths and all that but Young is right there and they targeted him for the role so have to think that even if OMc is slightly better they will push development into Young who definitely has a bigger ceiling as a player, imo.
I wouldn't go as far as great job security as they do have some depth to challenge but it sure seems he's on the inside track and it's his spot to lose which makes him pretty much the cheapest rookie this year who meets that criteria.
Saw OMc mentioned early and agree entirely with @Bontempele that it looks like there's one spot between him and Young, I think OMc was slightly better in the preseason but it's only just, possession is 9/10ths and all that but Young is right there and they targeted him for the role so have to think that even if OMc is slightly better they will push development into Young who definitely has a bigger ceiling as a player, imo.
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Woggie made comments else on McInnerny - hard to say if his role is wing or inside. Expect he gets the good wing over Dylan Stephens.
With Hall not playing, Dawson unseen and maybe a question for round 1, yet to see DPP impact, it feels hard to pick more than 4 defenders. Not sure Lloyd is a cut above the rest still and given movement of players do we see some change coming.
If not Whitfield, who is marginally above before you get up to the $570k players. Does Ridley give us 105 if not going with the kick outs.
if you think 17 games for Whitfield then you dont pick him. Post kidney issue he missed one game from memory last year, although he is a tall slender player despite having been in the system for a long time.
With Hall not playing, Dawson unseen and maybe a question for round 1, yet to see DPP impact, it feels hard to pick more than 4 defenders. Not sure Lloyd is a cut above the rest still and given movement of players do we see some change coming.
If not Whitfield, who is marginally above before you get up to the $570k players. Does Ridley give us 105 if not going with the kick outs.
if you think 17 games for Whitfield then you dont pick him. Post kidney issue he missed one game from memory last year, although he is a tall slender player despite having been in the system for a long time.
I really don't think Whitfield is that cheap. If he can get back to 2019 for then, yes, otherwise he's only 5-8 points underpriced on the other 4 seasons 2 either side of that one. He's played a full season twice (incl 17 game season) in that 5 year period, missing 6-7 games in the other 3.
There's definitely upside to him but his realistic outcome I think is probably a solid D4 level of scoring. Obviously if he moons, that's another story but I'll be honest, I reckon Daniel at the same price is just as good a buy with significantly better durability but no one is talking about him
I don't like the JMc pick, averaged ~80 over the last ten in the same role and wing is just a really hard role in SC to score greatly in. He doesn't really do any of the things that the wingers who have scored great do either. His kicking is sound but not elite, he doesn't intercept mark, he doesn't win much contested ball, he's not high volume and he doesn't tackle. At his price he has to be a keeper so you're talking 95+, there were like 3 wings in the league who did that last year.
Like the player and it's possible he starts doing some of those things but you're looking for 15+ points of natural improvement basically as the role is unchanged. Not impossible by any means but that's a strong jump.
There's definitely upside to him but his realistic outcome I think is probably a solid D4 level of scoring. Obviously if he moons, that's another story but I'll be honest, I reckon Daniel at the same price is just as good a buy with significantly better durability but no one is talking about him
I don't like the JMc pick, averaged ~80 over the last ten in the same role and wing is just a really hard role in SC to score greatly in. He doesn't really do any of the things that the wingers who have scored great do either. His kicking is sound but not elite, he doesn't intercept mark, he doesn't win much contested ball, he's not high volume and he doesn't tackle. At his price he has to be a keeper so you're talking 95+, there were like 3 wings in the league who did that last year.
Like the player and it's possible he starts doing some of those things but you're looking for 15+ points of natural improvement basically as the role is unchanged. Not impossible by any means but that's a strong jump.
I just question the scoring capacity of smalls in crap sides last year for instance they had Sam Berry 46 (tackled like a madman), Murphy 54, McAdam 52 and Rowe 57, its hard to then see Rachele come out and average 60+ in his first season which we really need out of a 180k rookie to be making that 100-150k quickly, no doubt the guys a super talent but just not sure its going to translate to consistent SC output in a likely bottom 4 side which worries me for cash generation.
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