Position 2022: Forward Discussion
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For those considering starting Dixon , last season :-
Darling 22
Allen 21
Kennedy 18
Waterman 14
Williams 6
Do we get enough games out of Dixon (if named) before Allen & Darling return.
Might get 1-2 price rises out of him , 2-3 of those on our starting benches and cash generation becomes a serious issue
Darling 22
Allen 21
Kennedy 18
Waterman 14
Williams 6
Do we get enough games out of Dixon (if named) before Allen & Darling return.
Might get 1-2 price rises out of him , 2-3 of those on our starting benches and cash generation becomes a serious issue
As the 2nd tall forward?
I'm not actually sure why people think this is so unlikely. The majority of teams run 3KPF and a ruckman. While I personally don't rate CCJ very highly at all and even more lowly as a ruckman where he's been embarrassing in the preseason, he still fits perfectly well as the 2nd KPF with Goldy as 3rd/2nd ruck. Same setup that Melbourne runs with McDonald, Brown, Jackson and Gawn for example.
I'm not actually sure why people think this is so unlikely. The majority of teams run 3KPF and a ruckman. While I personally don't rate CCJ very highly at all and even more lowly as a ruckman where he's been embarrassing in the preseason, he still fits perfectly well as the 2nd KPF with Goldy as 3rd/2nd ruck. Same setup that Melbourne runs with McDonald, Brown, Jackson and Gawn for example.
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Thoughts on running a
Dunks, cogs, McGovern, Brodie, xerri, Rachelle with hayes and martin/Durdin forward line?
love the potential value in butters, treloar, Heeney, dusty but also love the team it gives me upfield with the cogs forward 2 setup with the hope of the next 3 averaging 75+ and making 150k each
Dunks, cogs, McGovern, Brodie, xerri, Rachelle with hayes and martin/Durdin forward line?
love the potential value in butters, treloar, Heeney, dusty but also love the team it gives me upfield with the cogs forward 2 setup with the hope of the next 3 averaging 75+ and making 150k each
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I defiantly think butters break out is on the cards but how much are you predicting he will average?
looked great in preseason against 2 bottom 4 teams the mid minutes are defiantly there but The first practice game was 5th mid behind boak drew wines Amon
And than In the 2nd game he was the 4th mid behind wines boak drew
How much do you trust a skinny 75 kilo 21 year old over the first 5 rounds with games against lions dees and Carlton who have some big body mids?
I feel like he will defiantly have some massive games leveled out with some 60s and go about 95-100 which is great for his price but not a must have
I could be looking at this completely wrong though. Just find it a risk missing out on some proven guys for a guy who is not proven with 8 100s in a 48 game career and has missed 15 games in last 2 seasons through injury Aswell.
(Not saying I am right at all just my thoughts on butters, think his a star in the making just have doubts over him myself at the moments)
looked great in preseason against 2 bottom 4 teams the mid minutes are defiantly there but The first practice game was 5th mid behind boak drew wines Amon
And than In the 2nd game he was the 4th mid behind wines boak drew
How much do you trust a skinny 75 kilo 21 year old over the first 5 rounds with games against lions dees and Carlton who have some big body mids?
I feel like he will defiantly have some massive games leveled out with some 60s and go about 95-100 which is great for his price but not a must have
I could be looking at this completely wrong though. Just find it a risk missing out on some proven guys for a guy who is not proven with 8 100s in a 48 game career and has missed 15 games in last 2 seasons through injury Aswell.
(Not saying I am right at all just my thoughts on butters, think his a star in the making just have doubts over him myself at the moments)
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This worries me, think about it most days and it's hard to go past.
Has talent, has the drive but does he have the body to hold a 100 average for the season.
Confident he'll come out early and score well but footy does catch up after half a dozen rounds and my gut says that'll hold him back - but hey, everyone has him and we have extra trades
Has talent, has the drive but does he have the body to hold a 100 average for the season.
Confident he'll come out early and score well but footy does catch up after half a dozen rounds and my gut says that'll hold him back - but hey, everyone has him and we have extra trades
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defiantly agree
I honestly feel more nervous about leaving out treloar, I know the recent injury history
But this is the first full preseason with out any hiccups since 2019
Over the 2 preseason games he is playing the role he played in the grand final more inside mid where he scored 122 and the role he played at the pies where he averaged 109+ 4 out of 5 seasons
he is the one I have a few times sacrificed Gawn to Witts to bring him in but that’s obviously very risky injury wise
I honestly feel more nervous about leaving out treloar, I know the recent injury history
But this is the first full preseason with out any hiccups since 2019
Over the 2 preseason games he is playing the role he played in the grand final more inside mid where he scored 122 and the role he played at the pies where he averaged 109+ 4 out of 5 seasons
he is the one I have a few times sacrificed Gawn to Witts to bring him in but that’s obviously very risky injury wise
I'd argue Treloar's improvement over the pre season is because they've put Libba and Bont in cotton wool but if you think that role is sustainable and trust his body to be able to do it sufficiently for a 22 game season by all means pick him at the price, I'd much rather take the chance on a 21 year old who has already shown a bucketload of talent though but that's just my opinion, he averaged 87 as a pretty raw 19 year old scoring potential isn't a great concern of mine, he gets injured you're in the same position as 40% of sides so that aspect isnt a big deal either.
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If Treloar averages 109 you can get him for ~60k more inside round 10, given the questions on the role and his durability, I'd pay that premium to be sure.
It's 100k if Butters does it but, perhaps more importantly, 42% of teams have Butters which given only 49% of teams have Neale indicates that roughly 90% of teams that actually matter have Butters right now. That's a very significant fade on a guy who really only seems not likely to do 100 if he gets hurt and definitely has the profile to go 110+.
It's 100k if Butters does it but, perhaps more importantly, 42% of teams have Butters which given only 49% of teams have Neale indicates that roughly 90% of teams that actually matter have Butters right now. That's a very significant fade on a guy who really only seems not likely to do 100 if he gets hurt and definitely has the profile to go 110+.
I’ve gone back and watched the North v Sydney game for the first time. Agree that Xerri won his share of contested possessions and held his own in the ruck, even against Hickey. Playing ruck time should hopefully translate into some regular points and hopefully he’ll obtain dual position status come round 6. I’m glad I initially posted and appreciate the feedback from other posters!
I’ve tinkered with something similar. Basically means you can play a ”safe” MID structure (no speculative rookies) and pretty much have no rookies on the ground in DEF. It certainly has merit. Just means you’re punting on Butters, Heeney, Treloar, Martin etc all staying at their priced average or at least not going bunta. It’s a big gamble against the majority but could pay off. Looking at it another way - ask yourself who’s more likely to jump significantly - the popular underpriced FWDs (Burtters, Heaney, Treloar, Martin) or the underpriced DEFs (Hewitt, Sicily, Whitfield and maybe Daniel although he’s borderline)? If you’re willing to bet on the latter, then that structure is the way to go.
