Discussion 2022: Rate My Team

[Shaunpro1]

Ive never felt the defence was as dire as people have made out that justifies locking in so many positions on one line, we really should get Hinge,McCartin,Gibcus,SDK and Kelly, that's plenty.

Sinn,Kemp and O'Driscoll aren't far off being named either and Daicos and McGovern are very likely to be able to support after Round 6.

 

[Shannon]

My mid is just about a carbon copy of your old team. I think Ward on field and another Def premo looks more balanced, but assuming Lloyd and Crisp (or a Hall or bolter) or Pendles, Merrett etc after round 6 are up the pointy end of defenders, will you have room for them? That's my main reason for only going 4 deep in def and hoping to scrape through with the appalling rookie selection down back.

Yep, its a solid point that I did have in mind -Lloyd,Crisp, Pendles, Merrett, even Daicos could potentially be must have defenders.

I think Ridley, Short & Whitfield are real chances at being top 6 defenders that offer very good value at their starting price.

Sicily & Hewett probably not/ will need a few things go their way but offer real value at their starting price/role - could slingshot them with the extra trades this year to the above guys or depending on how things go for my team, I may have to keep them for longer than ideal. I recall last year's winner starting Tim Taranto & ended up keeping him all year at M8 despite him averaging just 97 as he played every game at least as she had other more pressing needs to fix.

 

[BigRuss]

O'Driscoll is the designated loophole to start, with the lack of defensive options I'll gamble that he'll make his way into the side early on.

Hinge out over shoulder concerns.

Marshall is a gamble that he'll get forward status after R6 if Ryder comes back early enough.

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Bench is scary but you already know that. Reckon I’d prefer English over Marshall, removes the gamble and probably ends up a serviceable forward too. Gives you 50k to shore up the bench to some degree as well.

The D5 Premo teams are making me a bit uneasy about leaving rookie points on the bench come R7 after the DPP shuffle but there might not be a way of avoiding it if the rookies don’t come.

 

[RIAL]

Ive never felt the defence was as dire as people have made out that justifies locking in so many positions on one line, we really should get Hinge,McCartin,Gibcus,SDK and Kelly, that's plenty.

Sinn,Kemp and O'Driscoll aren't far off being named either and Daicos and McGovern are very likely to be able to support after Round 6.

100%, never understood where the idea came from tbh. I'd argue that even a 3 - 0 - 5 defence set up is achievable.

 

[PC]

100%, never understood where the idea came from tbh. I'd argue that even a 3 - 0 - 5 defence set up is achievable.

Go 3/0/5, be good to see someone take the punt

 

[pizza safety]

Bench is scary but you already know that. Reckon I’d prefer English over Marshall, removes the gamble and probably ends up a serviceable forward too. Gives you 50k to shore up the bench to some degree as well.

The D5 Premo teams are making me a bit uneasy about leaving rookie points on the bench come R7 after the DPP shuffle but there might not be a way of avoiding it if the rookies don’t come.

Cheers for the feeback Russ.

I just can't trust English to be honest with no Bruce in the team. He's shown that he can go quite well as a forward and with no Bruce I fear he could be stuck there for long periods. His 100 average year was the year where ruck scores were inflated. I can see the pick working, for sure, but I can also see it backfiring. If Ryder doesn't play many games I think Marshall will go 110 this season as long as he stays fit and I only see Gawn and Darcy going 115. Maybe I'm totally wrong here but it's something I'm backing.

I am worried about having nobody at D8 but I'm half confident that the players on the other 3 lines will be there and that they won't be much worse than most seasons. Rookies often get dropped and you just roll with it. Finding the rookies with the best scoring potential and job security is difficult, for now I prefer Cooper Stephens to Hough and Baldwin to Dixon, if Martin is named for Essendon I'd prefer him to Baldwin on scoring potential alone.

What did you mean by leaving rookie points on the bench come round 7?

 

[Woodsey]

Whist Cripps did look great, just wondering if would be wiser to take another premium defender/seems a waste having Ward on the bench.

I’ve also tinkered with no Cripps and feel the balance is much better.
- Brings Ward on ground and can bring in MacDonald or another named rookie once teams are out
- I’ve been able to upgrade Hewitt to Whitfield who I see as a genuine keeper
- Bring in Gawn for English.

Two remaining issues:
Still have the F6 in Rachele (not sold on McGovern). Might start Martin on field if named

D5/6 in Hinge/McCartin but I think the combination of those two plus Gibcus and SDK/Kelly can hold strong until Daicos can move down in Rd7.

The other non on field positive is it’s let’s me have Pruess at R3 who I’m still bullish on for cash gen.

 

[Grundogging]

Ive never felt the defence was as dire as people have made out that justifies locking in so many positions on one line, we really should get Hinge,McCartin,Gibcus,SDK and Kelly, that's plenty.

Sinn,Kemp and O'Driscoll aren't far off being named either and Daicos and McGovern are very likely to be able to support after Round 6.

I'll tell you why it's looking dire:

Hinge - injury risk with a ticking time bomb disguised as a shoulder
McCartin - untested down back, hadn't played for years at the top level, that's not even counting the obvious "durability" issues with him
Gibcus - untried rookie, we're expecting a fair bit from him and probably need him to stick and do well if he does get named for round 1
SDK - lots of promise, literally zero JS now that Geelong have a half-decent ruckman, needs injuries to persist to keep getting a game
Kelly - injury magnet and no clear role, we're more likely to go with Magden than Kelly as the "third" tall defender.

The others:

Sinn - sitting comfortably behind at least three other players I can think of as a medium HBF type
Kemp - no clear role, does a little in most spots but can he do one thing well enough to get / keep a spot in the 22?
O'Driscoll - probably the most promising of the three, but is there room for him in a deep Freo midfield (Erasmus also putting his hand up)? A healthy Chapman, Young and Wilson limit his opportunities to come in as a HBF as well.

The problem we've all got with DEF rookies is that there is a smattering of prospects who will do ok this year, but there's risk in starting pretty much every single one of them and none of them really stands out as a rolled-gold lock as a rookie cash cow, if you're viewing the situation through the lens of them continuing to get a game through rounds 3/6 even if they are named for round 1.

Once we get to round 7 and things open up with DPP changes then yes it will all be easier, but it's going to be a rough ride until then.

 

[mpollock]

Pretty happy with this team …

B: Lloyd, Short, Whitfield, Hewett, Hinge, McCartin (O’Driscoll, Dean)

M: Macrae, Oliver, A.Brayshaw, Neale, Cripps, Berry, H-Francis, Ward (Daicos, Macdonald, Uwland)

R: Gawn, Grundy (Hayes)

F: Dunkley, Butters, Conigilo, Brodie, Rachele, De Knocking (N.Martin, Dixon)

 

[Juzzo]

Pretty happy with this team …

B: Lloyd, Short, Whitfield, Hewett, Hinge, McCartin (O’Driscoll, Dean)

M: Macrae, Oliver, A.Brayshaw, Neale, Cripps, Berry, H-Francis, Ward (Daicos, Macdonald, Uwland)

R: Gawn, Grundy (Hayes)

F: Dunkley, Butters, Conigilo, Brodie, Rachele, De Knocking (N.Martin, Dixon)

Dean, Uwland injured buddy.

 

[mpollock]

Dean, Uwland injured buddy.

Yep. Both loopholes. Although will wait for teams as may not start Dean. Not back until round 9-10. Literally zero cash left.

 

[NT.Thunder]

Yep. Both loopholes. Although will wait for teams as may not start Dean. Not back until round 9-10. Literally zero cash left.

Each to their own and you do you - but ballsy move Mav!

 

[Shannon]

Yep. Both loopholes. Although will wait for teams as may not start Dean. Not back until round 9-10. Literally zero cash left.

Strongly advise not starting with 3 guys that aren't playing round 1, you will not be generating enough cash for upgrades when most other teams will be.

 

[BarginHunter]

Team as it stands, please let me know what you think

Def- Lloyd, Short, Sicily, Hewett, Sinn, McCartin (Gibcus, SDK)

Mid- Macrae, Miller, Oliver, Neale, Rowell, Berry, JHF, Daicos(Ward, C.Stephens, McDonald)

Ruck- Grundy, English(J Hayes)

Fwd- Dunks, Butters, Cogs, Brodie, Xerri, Rachele (Martin, Dixon)

96k ITB for upgrades or rookie adjustments

 

[Gruffles]

Everyone gone off Cripps?
That was fast....

 

[stephen]

Everyone gone off Cripps?
That was fast....

In 33% of teams - 6th-highest mid-only premium (including Rowell).

 

[AngryAnt]

Over lunch, I have been tinkering with my side - see if I could reduce the risk.

Old team :-

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Revised team :-

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In the revised team, I have dropped :-

Lloyd/Hinge/Sinn/Cripps/Stephens/W Kelly

for

Ridley/Sicily/Gibcus/Soligo/McGovern/Durdin

Rachele from fwd line starter to mid bench, Ward onto the field.

Whist Cripps did look great, just wondering if would be wiser to take another premium defender/seems a waste having Ward on the bench.

Would really appreciate views on this

Second team looks great. Not 100% sold on Hewett and Sicily but it definitely makes the backline look safer. Also gets Ward on field.

 

[Merv Neagle]

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$422k in the bank, thoughts on how to spend it? Could in theory bring in 2x 600k midfielders for Cripps and Rowell, but feels like such a huge loss in value.

Maybe a deposit for a house.

 

[pizza safety]

Ive never felt the defence was as dire as people have made out that justifies locking in so many positions on one line, we really should get Hinge,McCartin,Gibcus,SDK and Kelly, that's plenty.

Sinn,Kemp and O'Driscoll aren't far off being named either and Daicos and McGovern are very likely to be able to support after Round 6.

I don't agree here.

Imo Gibcus is way too much to pay for someone with his scoring potential, I see him making 70-80K, which is very poor ROI for someone at his price. I'd rather pick a loophole than him at that spot.

Hinge was a good pick but with the shoulder injury is high risk for 180K.

Kelly and SDK are gonna score quite poorly and Kelly's JS probably only lasts a few weeks.

Even McCartin has had a huge amount of issues in the past and he's probably the best of the lot.

 

[Hondo]

I don't agree here.

Imo Gibcus is way too much to pay for someone with his scoring potential, I see him making 70-80K, which is very poor ROI for someone at his price. I'd rather pick a loophole than him at that spot.

Hinge was a good pick but with the shoulder injury is high risk for 180K.

Kelly and SDK are gonna score quite poorly and Kelly's JS probably only lasts a few weeks.

Even McCartin has had a huge amount of issues in the past and he's probably the best of the lot.

I can’t see how with such limited options you can fade Hinge honestly.

And with Gibcus I and many others faded Butts for similar reasons last season yet he turned out to be one of the best def rookies.imagine