Discussion 2022: Round 1 Teams & In Game Discussion
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Going to do write-ups for the first couple of rounds hopefully as want the notes jotted down and reckon they're important given the structure trades that most budget.
Dogs vs Demons
General - Solid game, not frantic but solid. Demons the better side structurally, Dogs got a lot of it but really got bogged down in their ball movement and weren't good going inside 50 and forward in general. Both look to be top sides though, both were able to stem momentum changes, create them for themselves and kick quick goals which is so important in the modern game.
Demons - Just so sound defensively, doesn't really seem to matter who plays, they just seem to have the structure. McDonald went back after the Salem injury and was big as an extra help defender. Look really good.
Petracca - Ah yes, those preseason calls, from my first picked to not even in my side over a preseason, love how we can talk ourselves out of things so easily and of course into! He was immense, used it well, hit the scoreboard and just worked so hard. Will be watching very closely, said I thought he had 130+ in him this year in my first draft side, this has only reaffirmed it!
Viney - Solid role, played well. Clearly still the 3rd mid.
Oliver - A good bad game, concerning they called a throw on him given he has a half dozen just like it every game, if that's a target for umpires it definitely could be an issue he needs to tidy up. Played well, worked really hard, seemed to basically invent clangers and 7 FA is a pretty awesome effort. Still managed 106 and a positive ratio
Gawn - A really good stinker from him, relied heavily on the "hidden" stats such as HOtA, spoils and 1%ers and a nice bit of momentum on the timing of his goal and a couple of other good plays because he was pretty poor tonight otherwise and to walk away 90+ is a big win from a losing game. Looked really fit and got to an extreme amount of contests, just was beaten on the night and just that bit off. Still think the 115+ is a good bet.
Jackson - Solid game for him, love to know the overall ruck contests as it felt like he was a lot more involved in that then the CBA stats suggest, genuinely felt in the 65/35 G:J ratio to me, maybe even slightly higher Jackson. Moved well, marked well, kicked a nice goal. If you took him you'd be pretty delighted, he wasn't great tonight and he's scored amazingly well.
Langdon - Such relentless workrate, love the way he runs, would be that guy you'd love as a teammate and just be amazed when he's next to you and then he's 100m away
May - Ended up falling into a lockdown job on Naughton which hurt his scoring. Worth watching over the next few if he gets cheap enough.
Sparrow - Didn't get enough midfield time for mine, played solidly but not screaming pick me as a bailout option or downgrade play.
Smith - Was really solid, actually played very well, Salem injury doesn't hurt him at all. I still think he's got horrible JS but he did what he could to hang around.
Bedford - Did a few nice things, worth watching if he hangs around at 124k but sub after late outs probably sums it up best.
Salem - Well he'll be on the watch list if he's back, was a weird injury where didn't really look obvious but with tape already there you've got to be concerned.
Bowey - Played well, copped a big knock late on a film review standout play, Salem injury, if long term, could be very good as he's probably the next rebounder in line. Probably scored in line with what you'd expect, if he can add another 5 touches he starts to be viable.
Dogs - Typical game for them, got plenty of it, struggled a bit going forward, ball ended up in the wrong hands a bit too often for that important kick, don't love the Hunter forward thing, you end up with him not taking that kick so that guys like Treloar and Smith are hacking it a bit more. Wont be too hurt by this, battled well against a top side and more than enough to take away on the positives side of the table.
Smith - Preseason what? Immense, ball use was wasteful and he had a few plays where he should have gone and didn't but it will come. His role was exceptional though and definitely could be an issue for a few other guys who all need those minutes also. Played very well, hate those bad preseason guys but he's such an absurd talent that needs to be watched closely.
Macrae - Same Ol S... Stock standard game from him, just keeps finding the ball, that play in the 4th where he got 4 touches without basically moving was just insane. I didn't love his role, he's still a lot better as a pure mid and definitely some wing about his role tonight but it's Macrae, him falling off a bit would be a comfortable 120-125 so if the role fluctuates and is better he can go big. No concerns for anyone who took him.
English - Huge game, actually think his ratio was rough, multiple intercept possessions, couple of big contested marks, 8 clearances, definitely had some hitouts sharked but would have thought he was net positive in that area still and 85% DE just seems a bit off to me. He looked gassed late in the game and I definitely have some concerns about a knee when he went down like someone had sniped him under no contact in a marking contest, will be watching closely this week. Still, delighted with the outcome, if he can put 120 up against the best ruck combination in the league, that's a great sign, his ruckwork was noticeably better and his positioning around the ground was excellent. Even laid a couple of good tackles/bumps throwing his weight around a bit. Very impressed.
Dunkley - He's like that golfer who never hits a good shot and walks off 3 over par for the round, he just hacks kicks forward and they always bounce his way, it's actually always mental to watch. His hands are great though but the kicking terrifies me. Was really solid, role was really solid. Can't complain at all about his game.
Bont - Really solid game for him all things considered, rolled an ankle and struggled his way through it, to walk away 100+ is actually insane. Will be one to watch very, very closely over the next month, if he battles through it, plays forward a bit he's going to be one of the most obvious upgrade targets, timing it will be the question. Straight to the top of the upgrade target list.
Treloar - Strong game but a bit of junk involved that didn't get any reward unfortunately for his owners. 2nd goal had a groin/hamstring grab that was definitely concerning, played out the last minute but definitely a reminder of the risk for those who took him and the reason for those who didn't. Hopefully he's ok. I think his ratio was pretty harsh, he never kicks it well but he wasn't that bad tonight. No CP hurt but even that didn't really feel right. Role was sound although he was making that final kick far more than the Dogs would want!
Dale - Big start for him, took a significant amount of kick-ins, actually didn't play on several times, just playing well. No noticeable intercept role for him but did have a couple of intercept plays so could be in the equation at least. Definitely top 10 defender potential.
Daniel - Ditto to Dale, he looked solid, got plenty of it, was key in their rebound, pushes up higher to stay involved and as always used it well. Still reckon he ends up being a better pick than the ultra common Whitfield at the same price, that somehow didn't stop me picking Whitfield instead of him though
Naughton - Really solid game by him, doing more at ground level is huge, still always a threat when he jumps at it. Doing this against May is a huge effort. Still feel good about him pushing 90 and this game didn't change that. I have a no KPF rule for a reason but he's a gun.
Liberatore - Clearly the guy sacrificing for the team. Barely noticed at CB, which makes sense given he had one only, started HF and mainly played there. Strong chance to get FWD if he keeps that role up which would be a heavy watch if he did go back to midfield for whatever reason. I think it's a waste as he's their best inside mid but it's Bevo!
Hunter - The other guy whose role got kicked in the face. Playing essentially forward pocket, really undermines his best skill which is his elite I50 kicking, weird decision, especially to play the likes of Hannan and R. Smith on the wing instead. Another to watch for role changes.
Richards - Was solid, pretty much right on what you'd have expected if picking him, scored well, played well.
Don't think anyone else is relevant but if I missed someone you want covered hit me quick
Dogs vs Demons
General - Solid game, not frantic but solid. Demons the better side structurally, Dogs got a lot of it but really got bogged down in their ball movement and weren't good going inside 50 and forward in general. Both look to be top sides though, both were able to stem momentum changes, create them for themselves and kick quick goals which is so important in the modern game.
Demons - Just so sound defensively, doesn't really seem to matter who plays, they just seem to have the structure. McDonald went back after the Salem injury and was big as an extra help defender. Look really good.
Petracca - Ah yes, those preseason calls, from my first picked to not even in my side over a preseason, love how we can talk ourselves out of things so easily and of course into! He was immense, used it well, hit the scoreboard and just worked so hard. Will be watching very closely, said I thought he had 130+ in him this year in my first draft side, this has only reaffirmed it!
Viney - Solid role, played well. Clearly still the 3rd mid.
Oliver - A good bad game, concerning they called a throw on him given he has a half dozen just like it every game, if that's a target for umpires it definitely could be an issue he needs to tidy up. Played well, worked really hard, seemed to basically invent clangers and 7 FA is a pretty awesome effort. Still managed 106 and a positive ratio
Gawn - A really good stinker from him, relied heavily on the "hidden" stats such as HOtA, spoils and 1%ers and a nice bit of momentum on the timing of his goal and a couple of other good plays because he was pretty poor tonight otherwise and to walk away 90+ is a big win from a losing game. Looked really fit and got to an extreme amount of contests, just was beaten on the night and just that bit off. Still think the 115+ is a good bet.
Jackson - Solid game for him, love to know the overall ruck contests as it felt like he was a lot more involved in that then the CBA stats suggest, genuinely felt in the 65/35 G:J ratio to me, maybe even slightly higher Jackson. Moved well, marked well, kicked a nice goal. If you took him you'd be pretty delighted, he wasn't great tonight and he's scored amazingly well.
Langdon - Such relentless workrate, love the way he runs, would be that guy you'd love as a teammate and just be amazed when he's next to you and then he's 100m away
May - Ended up falling into a lockdown job on Naughton which hurt his scoring. Worth watching over the next few if he gets cheap enough.
Sparrow - Didn't get enough midfield time for mine, played solidly but not screaming pick me as a bailout option or downgrade play.
Smith - Was really solid, actually played very well, Salem injury doesn't hurt him at all. I still think he's got horrible JS but he did what he could to hang around.
Bedford - Did a few nice things, worth watching if he hangs around at 124k but sub after late outs probably sums it up best.
Salem - Well he'll be on the watch list if he's back, was a weird injury where didn't really look obvious but with tape already there you've got to be concerned.
Bowey - Played well, copped a big knock late on a film review standout play, Salem injury, if long term, could be very good as he's probably the next rebounder in line. Probably scored in line with what you'd expect, if he can add another 5 touches he starts to be viable.
Dogs - Typical game for them, got plenty of it, struggled a bit going forward, ball ended up in the wrong hands a bit too often for that important kick, don't love the Hunter forward thing, you end up with him not taking that kick so that guys like Treloar and Smith are hacking it a bit more. Wont be too hurt by this, battled well against a top side and more than enough to take away on the positives side of the table.
Smith - Preseason what? Immense, ball use was wasteful and he had a few plays where he should have gone and didn't but it will come. His role was exceptional though and definitely could be an issue for a few other guys who all need those minutes also. Played very well, hate those bad preseason guys but he's such an absurd talent that needs to be watched closely.
Macrae - Same Ol S... Stock standard game from him, just keeps finding the ball, that play in the 4th where he got 4 touches without basically moving was just insane. I didn't love his role, he's still a lot better as a pure mid and definitely some wing about his role tonight but it's Macrae, him falling off a bit would be a comfortable 120-125 so if the role fluctuates and is better he can go big. No concerns for anyone who took him.
English - Huge game, actually think his ratio was rough, multiple intercept possessions, couple of big contested marks, 8 clearances, definitely had some hitouts sharked but would have thought he was net positive in that area still and 85% DE just seems a bit off to me. He looked gassed late in the game and I definitely have some concerns about a knee when he went down like someone had sniped him under no contact in a marking contest, will be watching closely this week. Still, delighted with the outcome, if he can put 120 up against the best ruck combination in the league, that's a great sign, his ruckwork was noticeably better and his positioning around the ground was excellent. Even laid a couple of good tackles/bumps throwing his weight around a bit. Very impressed.
Dunkley - He's like that golfer who never hits a good shot and walks off 3 over par for the round, he just hacks kicks forward and they always bounce his way, it's actually always mental to watch. His hands are great though but the kicking terrifies me. Was really solid, role was really solid. Can't complain at all about his game.
Bont - Really solid game for him all things considered, rolled an ankle and struggled his way through it, to walk away 100+ is actually insane. Will be one to watch very, very closely over the next month, if he battles through it, plays forward a bit he's going to be one of the most obvious upgrade targets, timing it will be the question. Straight to the top of the upgrade target list.
Treloar - Strong game but a bit of junk involved that didn't get any reward unfortunately for his owners. 2nd goal had a groin/hamstring grab that was definitely concerning, played out the last minute but definitely a reminder of the risk for those who took him and the reason for those who didn't. Hopefully he's ok. I think his ratio was pretty harsh, he never kicks it well but he wasn't that bad tonight. No CP hurt but even that didn't really feel right. Role was sound although he was making that final kick far more than the Dogs would want!
Dale - Big start for him, took a significant amount of kick-ins, actually didn't play on several times, just playing well. No noticeable intercept role for him but did have a couple of intercept plays so could be in the equation at least. Definitely top 10 defender potential.
Daniel - Ditto to Dale, he looked solid, got plenty of it, was key in their rebound, pushes up higher to stay involved and as always used it well. Still reckon he ends up being a better pick than the ultra common Whitfield at the same price, that somehow didn't stop me picking Whitfield instead of him though
Naughton - Really solid game by him, doing more at ground level is huge, still always a threat when he jumps at it. Doing this against May is a huge effort. Still feel good about him pushing 90 and this game didn't change that. I have a no KPF rule for a reason but he's a gun.
Liberatore - Clearly the guy sacrificing for the team. Barely noticed at CB, which makes sense given he had one only, started HF and mainly played there. Strong chance to get FWD if he keeps that role up which would be a heavy watch if he did go back to midfield for whatever reason. I think it's a waste as he's their best inside mid but it's Bevo!
Hunter - The other guy whose role got kicked in the face. Playing essentially forward pocket, really undermines his best skill which is his elite I50 kicking, weird decision, especially to play the likes of Hannan and R. Smith on the wing instead. Another to watch for role changes.
Richards - Was solid, pretty much right on what you'd have expected if picking him, scored well, played well.
Don't think anyone else is relevant but if I missed someone you want covered hit me quick
Yeah I'm definitely floating one too.
Had NOD from Freo in mind, but desperately need 7k to afford Parish (who was my 2nd choice as M2 behind Petracca), getting massive FOMO so will look to sacrifice Ridley for Parish.
(Probably don't need spare cash since I've already paid huge premiums on rookies)
Had NOD from Freo in mind, but desperately need 7k to afford Parish (who was my 2nd choice as M2 behind Petracca), getting massive FOMO so will look to sacrifice Ridley for Parish.
(Probably don't need spare cash since I've already paid huge premiums on rookies)
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I don't think English is ending seasons but only needs 95 to work so great start for owners.
English isn't competing with Gawn though, he's a forward who needs about 95 to work, anything above that is basically gravy. It's a great start no matter how you cut it.
People need to not be looking at English vs Gawn, he's against the forwards.
Will do for first couple of rounds, not likely for the whole season but who knows
Bevo going absolutely HAM on Tom Morris, called him a gutter journalist. Called his work muckraking trash. I mean he's not wrong but was genuinely hilarious.
Fox guys trying to defend Morris as well
English isn't competing with Gawn though, he's a forward who needs about 95 to work, anything above that is basically gravy. It's a great start no matter how you cut it.
People need to not be looking at English vs Gawn, he's against the forwards.
Will do for first couple of rounds, not likely for the whole season but who knows
Bevo going absolutely HAM on Tom Morris, called him a gutter journalist. Called his work muckraking trash. I mean he's not wrong but was genuinely hilarious.
Fox guys trying to defend Morris as well
I don't think English is ending seasons but only needs 95 to work so great start for owners.
English isn't competing with Gawn though, he's a forward who needs about 95 to work, anything above that is basically gravy. It's a great start no matter how you cut it.
People need to not be looking at English vs Gawn, he's against the forwards.
Will do for first couple of rounds, not likely for the whole season but who knows
Bevo going absolutely HAM on Tom Morris, called him a gutter journalist. Called his work muckraking trash. I mean he's not wrong but was genuinely hilarious.
Fox guys trying to defend Morris as well
English isn't competing with Gawn though, he's a forward who needs about 95 to work, anything above that is basically gravy. It's a great start no matter how you cut it.
People need to not be looking at English vs Gawn, he's against the forwards.
Will do for first couple of rounds, not likely for the whole season but who knows
Bevo going absolutely HAM on Tom Morris, called him a gutter journalist. Called his work muckraking trash. I mean he's not wrong but was genuinely hilarious.
Fox guys trying to defend Morris as well
