Strategy 2022: Round 3 Trades

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Yep Grundy & English would be the setup. Likeyou I’m not overly sold on any of the other rucks. Going the English route leaves me 210k in the bank which doesn’t sit too well in a round with such big price movements.
I think it would be preferable that the money used from trading Gawn is used this round so if you can’t do that then it may be better to just hold.
 
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I too am one of the ppl unsure/dreading the Gawn decision. I've always bet against Gawn and regretted it, now I start him and he puts up two sub-par scores. The cash it frees up to drop him is very enticing and potentially strengthens other areas of the ground (Heeney, Cripps, Hewett etc.. who I dont currently own). Its one of those damned if I do, damned if I dont moments with the Beard and I'm sure to get it wrong..
Speaking as someone with Heeney (this week after trades), Cripps and Hewett and no Gawn:

Cripps represents outstanding value for money. He won't keep scoring at that level (obviously) but something like 105-108 priced at 83.5 is irresistible and makes him a must have. That's Sidebottom 2012, Coniglio 2018, Jack Steven 2015 levels.

Heeney I'm sure will revert to the mean (his historical average is 95), but with Buddy fit and him in his prime midfielder years he's more likely to push up towards 100. Again, priced at 83.5 he's hard to pass up. That would put him on par with say Zorko in 2014; in that year his score variance was huge (ceiling of 161-162, floor of 46-47) but all said and done he gave you a 99 average for a $447.2k outlay. Win.

Hewett looks to be playing as a starting onballer and has slotted into that midfield nicely despite Cripps Walsh and Cerra. His work rate seems to be off the charts and given the crapshoot that is DEF premos this year looks to be a conservative choice for a D5-D6 keeper. Plenty in that price bracket have returned 95+ over the years (think Houli, Waters, Marty Mattner, Tom McDonald, Hibberd, Williams, Newman, even Heath Shaw) so there's historical precedent. The closest to Hewett in terms of role was David Swallow at $429.4 in 2014 who averaged 103.2 and was in pretty much everyone's team.

Of the 3 I'd rank them Cripps, Hewett, Heeney in terms of priority. I think other forwards can match Heeney for value for the time being.

Only four ruckmen have been priced in that $645k echelon: Gawn, Grundy, Goldy and Dean Cox. Only one has ever given a positive return on his price (Gawn in 2020 averaged 139.9 priced at $697.1k), but beware: that was in a reduced length season and he missed 3 games so the average was artificially inflated. A 95% ROI on these top-priced guys is acceptable provided they can provide a captaincy option, but with Macrae, Cripps and Neale fulfilling that role this season serious questions need to be asked about Gawn's worth. The only other 30+ aged ruckman priced that high (Cox in 2012 at $662.6k) only managed 112.3 - and that was with 12 scores over 100 (top scores of 215 and 190!) but a staggering 10 scores under 100 including 76, 76, 74 and 68. A 112.3 from a ruckman looks good on paper but the man was priced at 122. For $338.3k you had Maric returning 114.3 and a spare $325k in your pocket.

To decide who to take (and who to trade) you need to consider each player against their competitors on each line - not in terms of whether they will be in the top x scorers by average on that line, but whether they will be the best value for money on that line (as a keeper). I think Cripps, Heeney and Hewett satisfy that criterion. I can't say the same for Gawn.
 
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I don’t own Gawn but I wouldn’t be trading him unless the cash gained did something significant for me.

I like Darcy and Grundy to be top two rucks but I think Gawn will be right there. Gawn has shown ability to put those big 150+ scores to even out his average.
 
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Speaking as someone with Heeney (this week after trades), Cripps and Hewett and no Gawn:

Cripps represents outstanding value for money. He won't keep scoring at that level (obviously) but something like 105-108 priced at 83.5 is irresistible and makes him a must have. That's Sidebottom 2012, Coniglio 2018, Jack Steven 2015 levels.

Heeney I'm sure will revert to the mean (his historical average is 95), but with Buddy fit and him in his prime midfielder years he's more likely to push up towards 100. Again, priced at 83.5 he's hard to pass up. That would put him on par with say Zorko in 2014; in that year his score variance was huge (ceiling of 161-162, floor of 46-47) but all said and done he gave you a 99 average for a $447.2k outlay. Win.

Hewett looks to be playing as a starting onballer and has slotted into that midfield nicely despite Cripps Walsh and Cerra. His work rate seems to be off the charts and given the crapshoot that is DEF premos this year looks to be a conservative choice for a D5-D6 keeper. Plenty in that price bracket have returned 95+ over the years (think Houli, Waters, Marty Mattner, Tom McDonald, Hibberd, Williams, Newman, even Heath Shaw) so there's historical precedent. The closest to Hewett in terms of role was David Swallow at $429.4 in 2014 who averaged 103.2 and was in pretty much everyone's team.

Of the 3 I'd rank them Cripps, Hewett, Heeney in terms of priority. I think other forwards can match Heeney for value for the time being.

Only four ruckmen have been priced in that $645k echelon: Gawn, Grundy, Goldy and Dean Cox. Only one has ever given a positive return on his price (Gawn in 2020 averaged 139.9 priced at $697.1k), but beware: that was in a reduced length season and he missed 3 games so the average was artificially inflated. A 95% ROI on these top-priced guys is acceptable provided they can provide a captaincy option, but with Macrae, Cripps and Neale fulfilling that role this season serious questions need to be asked about Gawn's worth. The only other 30+ aged ruckman priced that high (Cox in 2012 at $662.6k) only managed 112.3 - and that was with 12 scores over 100 (top scores of 215 and 190!) but a staggering 10 scores under 100 including 76, 76, 74 and 68. A 112.3 from a ruckman looks good on paper but the man was priced at 122. For $338.3k you had Maric returning 114.3 and a spare $325k in your pocket.

To decide who to take (and who to trade) you need to consider each player against their competitors on each line - not in terms of whether they will be in the top x scorers by average on that line, but whether they will be the best value for money on that line (as a keeper). I think Cripps, Heeney and Hewett satisfy that criterion. I can't say the same for Gawn.
Good post, no cryptic one liners in there. :cool:
 
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To English or not to English? That is the question.

Really not enjoying the Bulldogs playing the first game of the round each week.... :mad:
Lone ruck again a good sign.

I'm set on Witts so will watch English pump out his 110 tonight. A Dogs win would be great for him.

Think a Swans win and we might see English thrown forward soon.
 
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With only $50k odd ITB I feel it's either Whit to Bowey and Ward to Crippa or Whit to Hall and McGovern to Brodie to facilitate

I've already missed Crippa's 2 big scores, so where does he get to from here if he plays the next 20 games......
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Sticking fat with my underperformers😳

Then again
 
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Was weighing up Hayes vs Dylan Stephens to bring in for Soligo/Hough.

Hayes named on extended bench. The 100k increase he's gonna get when he plays is so enticing but dylan stephens is much safer to replace Soligo.
 
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Speaking as someone with Heeney (this week after trades), Cripps and Hewett and no Gawn:

Cripps represents outstanding value for money. He won't keep scoring at that level (obviously) but something like 105-108 priced at 83.5 is irresistible and makes him a must have. That's Sidebottom 2012, Coniglio 2018, Jack Steven 2015 levels.

Heeney I'm sure will revert to the mean (his historical average is 95), but with Buddy fit and him in his prime midfielder years he's more likely to push up towards 100. Again, priced at 83.5 he's hard to pass up. That would put him on par with say Zorko in 2014; in that year his score variance was huge (ceiling of 161-162, floor of 46-47) but all said and done he gave you a 99 average for a $447.2k outlay. Win.

Hewett looks to be playing as a starting onballer and has slotted into that midfield nicely despite Cripps Walsh and Cerra. His work rate seems to be off the charts and given the crapshoot that is DEF premos this year looks to be a conservative choice for a D5-D6 keeper. Plenty in that price bracket have returned 95+ over the years (think Houli, Waters, Marty Mattner, Tom McDonald, Hibberd, Williams, Newman, even Heath Shaw) so there's historical precedent. The closest to Hewett in terms of role was David Swallow at $429.4 in 2014 who averaged 103.2 and was in pretty much everyone's team.

Of the 3 I'd rank them Cripps, Hewett, Heeney in terms of priority. I think other forwards can match Heeney for value for the time being.

Only four ruckmen have been priced in that $645k echelon: Gawn, Grundy, Goldy and Dean Cox. Only one has ever given a positive return on his price (Gawn in 2020 averaged 139.9 priced at $697.1k), but beware: that was in a reduced length season and he missed 3 games so the average was artificially inflated. A 95% ROI on these top-priced guys is acceptable provided they can provide a captaincy option, but with Macrae, Cripps and Neale fulfilling that role this season serious questions need to be asked about Gawn's worth. The only other 30+ aged ruckman priced that high (Cox in 2012 at $662.6k) only managed 112.3 - and that was with 12 scores over 100 (top scores of 215 and 190!) but a staggering 10 scores under 100 including 76, 76, 74 and 68. A 112.3 from a ruckman looks good on paper but the man was priced at 122. For $338.3k you had Maric returning 114.3 and a spare $325k in your pocket.

To decide who to take (and who to trade) you need to consider each player against their competitors on each line - not in terms of whether they will be in the top x scorers by average on that line, but whether they will be the best value for money on that line (as a keeper). I think Cripps, Heeney and Hewett satisfy that criterion. I can't say the same for Gawn.
Thank you, excellent thought out post with plenty of food for thought. You have me leaning toward dropping Gawn atm. Def opens up room for so many activities 👍
 
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Want to bring in JFH this week, sorta hoping stephens has a solid game nothing brilliant just a solid game.

Anything approaching 100 I could be tempted to keep Owens on the field
 
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No trades. Probably be buried by Gawn, Whitfield, Berry, McGovern traders this week. Hope my team can put up a competitive performance.
 
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Was weighing up Hayes vs Dylan Stephens to bring in for Soligo/Hough.

Hayes named on extended bench. The 100k increase he's gonna get when he plays is so enticing but dylan stephens is much safer to replace Soligo.
Could you get both?

You'd hate to miss Stephens only for Hayes to miss the final bench...
 
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Could you get both?

You'd hate to miss Stephens only for Hayes to miss the final bench...
My other two trades are pretty confirmed.
I'm going Stephens at the moment as an onfield midfield option and hoping Hayes is available a couple rounds from now.
 
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So, I've gone Thomas to Hewett.

I haven't seen gws play but have read accounts of Whitfield carrying something that could see him play through but only at the level he has been.

I now have the cash to move Whitfield to Lloyd.

Should I?
 
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