Strategy 2023: Rookies Discussion

[GrainFedBeef]

From what I’ve heard, Tarrant is likely closer to 3 weeks and beyond away than 1 week away. A contact has a link to the club but obviously don’t take as gospel.

Still need Young to get named yet though..

Looks likely
https://www.zerohanger.com/richmond-rookie-tylar-young-backed-by-captain-for-round-1-debut-133943/

 

[GrainFedBeef]

From what I’ve heard, Tarrant is likely closer to 3 weeks and beyond away than 1 week away. A contact has a link to the club but obviously don’t take as gospel.

Still need Young to get named yet though..

BTW, any word on Soldo. Feels like Samson Ryan will play. Could Ryan rank ahead of Soldo?

 

[Ben's Beasts]

BTW, any word on Soldo. Feels like Samson Ryan will play. Could Ryan rank ahead of Soldo?

Haven’t heard or asked anything about Soldo or Ryan but I’ll keep my ears pricked for any info.

 

[toxic]

Anyone know if Bytel gets a run at it?
Could pick one of him or Hollands for the mid bench...

Be very surprised if he's not selected

 

[Toothless Tigers]

https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/s...n/news-story/3306f323619162462b7eaf6df469edba

 

[Herbie66]

Still not huge on him for JS (and it depends on the teams for our other options) but apparently Milera didn't train today (and hasn't for a week or two with some kind of personal matter) which would put Max in a pretty good position for a round 1 debut.

Worrell is listed as 3-4 weeks away which might see him go through the SANFL first so yeah, if options are bare then I suppose I've seen worse options.




EDIT: Apparently Burns has confirmed Laird will be back tomorrow and good to play in round 1. Suppose it gives us some clarity to the above then.

What's the concern on Laird ? 🤔

I am guessing you mean Milera.

 

[Rowsus]

From a Lachie Schultz Q+A:

Just once I'd like to hear a player not boosting his team mate.

"Yeah mate, he's come back as fat as a pig. He can hardly get a handle on the ball in the drills. I'll be spewin' if he gets a game before me!!!".

 

[Feerits Elf]

A Melbourne player in preseason once described Oliver as being like a pig so I didn't pick him.

 

[Blue Bloods]

Just once I'd like to hear a player not boosting his team mate.

"Yeah mate, he's come back as fat as a pig. He can hardly get a handle on the ball in the drills. I'll be spewin' if he gets a game before me!!!".

A Bomber player will say it about Stringer one day

 

[dylan123]

What's the concern on Laird ? 🤔

I am guessing you mean Milera.

Haha 100% mean Milera. Was listening to Burns talk about Laird dealing with a tag and combined it

 

[wogitalia]

A Bomber player will say it about Stringer one day

Haha first player I thought about was Walla. You'd think that Snelling must be thinking that if he misses round 1 for him!

 

[Miller is a Steele]

How good are Samson Ryan’s chances of playing? Any tiges fans have some insight?

If he plays Round 1 I can’t see me not picking him.

Even if he gets dropped after 1 or 2 games he has a good looping fixture. I can loop some kind of combination of Bont/Laird/Dunks from rounds 2-8.

The other scenario is that he gets at least 3 games and can make some cash… assuming he doesn’t score in the negatives like last time

 

[Manikato1]

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https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/s...n/news-story/3306f323619162462b7eaf6df469edba

I have no idea who JP is but I would be very interested to know who his rookie selections are in the mids for spots 4, 6, 8, 9 and 10!

 

[Feerits Elf]

I have no idea who JP is

Jean-Paul Haigh

 

[toxic]

I have no idea who JP is but I would be very interested to know who his rookie selections are in the mids for spots 4, 6, 8, 9 and 10!

Suspect it's last years winner
Jay Peeterman
Raymagoo

 

[OnTopBar]

How good are Samson Ryan’s chances of playing? Any tiges fans have some insight?

If he plays Round 1 I can’t see me not picking him.

Even if he gets dropped after 1 or 2 games he has a good looping fixture. I can loop some kind of combination of Bont/Laird/Dunks from rounds 2-8.

The other scenario is that he gets at least 3 games and can make some cash… assuming he doesn’t score in the negatives like last time

My take is that 1 of Ryan or Young will play while Tarrant is out, Gibcus is out for the medium term but it would have been him. Ben Miller has been the preferred 3rd KPF/ruck and offers a ton more than Soldo, defensively, attacking and on the ground. Miller has spent most of his time in the VFL as a KPD and acquitted himself quite well in that role for a few games in the AFL until he was moved forward, he's been training with the backs over the last week, so I guess the MC is weighing him up against Young. If Miller is named then Ryan will come in as that 3rd KPF/ruck, it's the position he's been played in the VFL while Soldo was the main ruck, when Soldo was out he had the main ruck mantle. Ryan is a big unit and surprisingly good below the knees, I would think he's the more likely of the 2 to get a gig and could stay in the team if there's an injury/rest to Lynch or Riewoldt.

 

[Wheedus]

I've not seen much of Samson Ryan but he's listed as a 96kg, 206cm 22yo. That's massive.

Is he a more of a 'drop it on his head', lumbering, CCJ type or a more mobile Luke Jackson type? Capable of kicking a bag?

Trying to work out if Ryan/Sav/Madden and Jackson would get me two decent scores each week from three of them and a lot of DPP flexibility.

Ryan is more of a mobile / skillful ruckman capable of kicking goals. His VFL numbers have been pretty good and while he has the usual ups and downs that you see with an emerging ruck, his top end is pretty impressive. Obviously the game against Williamstown is the standout with 20 disp, 8 marks, 29 HOs and 3 goals = 131 DT. Also, he's now 22 so probably more than ready to take his opportunity at AFL level. Plenty of Richmond supporters I know say he has gone past Soldo and should be playing AFL

 

[Dustman]

Nank won’t be rucking on his own,I hope they play Ryan. He showed more in 1 quarter of the praccy match against the Dees than Soldo has shown for years. Has more variety in his game rather than being a tap ruckman

 

[Darkie]

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https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/s...n/news-story/3306f323619162462b7eaf6df469edba

Great summary, thank you.

 

[aj74]

I think Chesser is a real chance of being the sub or getting subbed. Simmo has mentioned a few times that they are going to carefully manage his workload.

Cowan looks to be the better one I think.

Still have to pick him though, hey.

The kid can play and the club has stated that they want to ease him into it. Tells me that barring injury, he's going to be getting proper rookie gametime at some stage.

So ok, say we decide to fade him now with a view to bringing him in when he starts getting more minutes. Chances are, we won't know about him getting more of those minutes until after we see it.. If he's already played maybe 4 or 5 games at 40-50 and then had a 70 or so, then you are going to be paying north of 160k for him... or something. I dunno I haven't put a calculator on it.

The point is, that it might be worth just getting him in at the start and parking him as a slow burn. We might even get a week off here and there for some loopholing. His DPP becomes pretty useful then