Position 2023: Ruck Discussion

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I've landed here also. I see 4 likely outcomes.

1. Drops to 100-105, gets DPP - That's close to keeper forward at least.
2. Sustains average - This is a fine result, DPP would make it even better but is less likely in this situation.
3. Grundy get's injured - History says he will at this point, Gawn is a ~130 guy in that scenario. Huge win if it's early.
4. Gawn gets injured - Always possible, just goes into the regular hope he's done well to there and trade school.

There's the 5th outcome I think is very unlikely that he falls off a cliff and averages 90 odd, that's a disaster but you'd probably bail very quickly if that's happening (knowing my ruck history of late, that would be the week before Grundy get's injured...)

I'd say all 3 of those outcomes is somewhere in the acceptable to great range.

I still think Witts is the top scoring ruck this year but I don't feel that confident in it and he wont be much more expensive than he starts if he is so Gawn allows me to confirm or reject that hypothesis.

I've officially ruled out English in SC (will take in RDT I think), the durability record just isn't worth it, albeit scoring potential and upside are great.

I think Darcy is probably the 2nd best ruck but I can't pick him with Jackson looming over his scoring and his durability record.

Witts then Darcy would by in play for me if I need the cash from Gawn elsewhere but don't think I do or will, would basically take no 120k rookies available round 1 to cause that.

Marshall the defensive/upside play, at least I've already planned a trade for this position this year so if I can escape at just one for that slot then I've got 11 more to go to get to last year, if he can make it far enough he'll make cash at least. He's basically not relevant until he gets injured this year so I don't see a need to create an extra ruck position to fret over until that happens. Probably be around round 6 just to maximise the hurt it inflicts.
Don’t forget the 6th and arguably most likely outcome (reflecting his sub-10% ownership)

Gawn plays 40-50% ruck in a share with Grundy. This logically reduces him to an average of 100-105. The remainder of his time is divided between forward, defence and the bench, but not enough to get DPP. You’re then stuck with him in the ruck line, giving up 10-15 a week to Darcy/English/Marshall.
 
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Don’t forget the 6th and arguably most likely outcome (reflecting his sub-10% ownership)

Gawn plays 40-50% ruck in a share with Grundy. This logically reduces him to an average of 100-105. The remainder of his time is divided between forward, defence and the bench, but not enough to get DPP. You’re then stuck with him in the ruck line, giving up 10-15 a week to Darcy/English/Marshall.
Correct me if I’m wrong but DPP is calculated off start position at CBA while on field isn’t it? Gawn ain’t ever starting in defence. There’s only 2 outcomes - he either starts forward enough to get DPP or he plays mid enough to not be eligible.
 
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The ruck line is a tricky one to tinker with and upgrade.I’ve wasted many trades over the years going cheap in the ruck department until the Gawndy era.
Really wanted to take a punt on Jackson this year, but if it goes pear shaped, my options are limited cash wise.
I hopefully have a set and forget Gawn and Marshall, but we know there are no guarantees.
Really can’t see Gawn going backwards,he’s not strictly a tap ruckman. Whilst not rucking,he’s a good reader of the game and will get possessions around the ground.
Surprised at his low ownership,but not complaining. A proven performer.
 
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Correct me if I’m wrong but DPP is calculated off start position at CBA while on field isn’t it? Gawn ain’t ever starting in defence. There’s only 2 outcomes - he either starts forward enough to get DPP or he plays mid enough to not be eligible.
Yes - sorry that should have been clear - floating all around the ground (i.e. not just sitting forward) will hurt his DPP chances - but you'd expect his bench time might tick up as well, hurting the overall score.
 
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Yes - sorry that should have been clear - floating all around the ground (i.e. not just sitting forward) will hurt his DPP chances - but you'd expect his bench time might tick up as well, hurting the overall score.
I’m not sure I’m following here. Is the common consensus that he’ll start in the ruck, then drift around not in the ruck, while drifting (not in the ruck) also not spend any time forward and then he’s drifting around not rucking and not forward while also spending more time on the bench?

Sounds like a horrible pick. Well played to those that avoid him if this plays out.

The cynic in me says that this might be a bit of wishful thinking from those of us that want to leave him out.
 
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I’m not sure I’m following here. Is the common consensus that he’ll start in the ruck, then drift around not in the ruck, while drifting (not in the ruck) also not spend any time forward and then he’s drifting around not rucking and not forward while also spending more time on the bench?

Sounds like a horrible pick. Well played to those that avoid him if this plays out.

The cynic in me says that this might be a bit of wishful thinking from those of us that want to leave him out.
All I'm saying is that in the event of his Ruck/Forward/Def spit being, say 50/30/20 - then he's lost his main source of points, his ruckwork (down from 70% last year), while not spending enough time in one spot to earn DPP. He then becomes only an average pick, not being a premium on any line.
 
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“Ross Lyon says he expects Campbell to play senior football to form a ruck combination with Marshall.”

What’s everyone’s thoughts here? They played a single game together in the last round of 2022. RoMo had 48% CBA’s and scored 64.
 
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“Ross Lyon says he expects Campbell to play senior football to form a ruck combination with Marshall.”

What’s everyone’s thoughts here? They played a single game together in the last round of 2022. RoMo had 48% CBA’s and scored 64.
If Campbell is named this week reckon I'll be going with someone else with an eye on Marshall post dpp change.
 
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Fear Campbell is a bigger problem than we'd all like to admit, they did that structure in Round 23 last year and Campbell attended more Ruck contests of the two and left Marshall only able to get to mid 60's.
 
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If Campbell is named this week reckon I'll be going with someone else with an eye on Marshall post dpp change.
Blerg.

I'd got to a 'No Marshall' team I was really happy with but with Yeo out, I've dropped Gawn back down to him to give some of the cash to take Yeo back to a premium defender.

Awaiting team drops with trepidation now... if Campbell is there I might need to find the $$$ to switch Marshall out again :cautious:
 
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Blerg.

I'd got to a 'No Marshall' team I was really happy with but with Yeo out, I've dropped Gawn back down to him to give some of the cash to take Yeo back to a premium defender.

Awaiting team drops with trepidation now... if Campbell is there I might need to find the $$$ to switch Marshall out again :cautious:
Like picking Gawn knowing that you'll probably be able to move him forward eventually and have had time to determine the best Ruck option to trade in, being able to afford him is the issue.
 
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