Strategy 2023: Round 2 Trades

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Bruhn's TOG% is a concern as is Hopper's. Hopper looks like he has no tank.
I'm on board with both of these... lots of hype around Bruhn and he did look good when on the ground but if 60% TOG is all he can manage then his scoring has a (not very high) ceiling... Having missed Sheezel it seems a no brainer to go early on this one.

Hopper I'm prepared to wait a week but my god his disposal was horrific and I'm not all that hopeful he should stay in my team over Setterfield or JHF.
 
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Prices don't change until after round 3, so you get at least one more look at them before price changes.

I did not say don't trade I was simply saying there is no harm waiting another week, for all we know Cunnington and Bruhn come good this week and JHF (or the like), get injured and need to be traded again.

I just think one more week of data is not going to hurt in the long-run.

Sheezel is probably a bit different, if you think you may need to fix two problems plus get Sheezel and say Chandler next week, you may have to bite the bullet this week on one.
I realise that - but what if Chandler/Comben, Bytel & Phillips all become must-have rookies after Round 2? There is your 3 correction trades chewed up.

There is definitely merit to squeezing in an extra trade or 2 now so your ducks are lined up for the abundance of options that might present themselves next week.
 
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West Coast is a completely different team now though.

The ball lives in their backline.
As I mentioned earlier in another thread


Good JS but the problem with Cole is that his scoring is poor. The last year he played he scored above 80 twice but below 45 six times. A quarter of your season below 45 is not inspiring. And that was in a year where Barrass missed 6 games, Hurn 7 games and McGov 6 games so no shortage of opportunities.
 
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As I mentioned earlier in another thread


Good JS but the problem with Cole is that his scoring is poor. The last year he played he scored above 80 twice but below 45 six times. A quarter of your season below 45 is not inspiring. And that was in a year where Barrass missed 6 games, Hurn 7 games and McGov 6 games so no shortage of opportunities.
If you're keeping him for the season you're doing it wrong IMO
 
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What did everyone think of Grundy's performance ? Should improve as the weeks go by, but was expecting at least 80's to start with.
 
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Will be using 2 and a boost this week.

At the same time, I got on the end of a lot of bad luck.

Stewart
Jones

Laird C

Sheezel and McKenna on the bench.
et al.

Not even in the top 100k, but probably not the time to panic, just fix injuries and correction.

Need to be smart though, and I'm not feeling that smart at the moment.
 
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Well.... probably the worst start I've had.
Stewart and Jones both on field - left Mckenna on the bench.

Was behind on points, knowing I needed a POD captaincy choice so went for Jelly...

Rough week, but also now a rough few decisions.

Stewart out.
Jelly hold - but means my scoring will be significantly impacted.
Jones probably out even if he does play this week.

My plan at current:
Stewart to Daicos/ Hayden Young
Jones to Stocker (had been swapping between the two the past week and thought Stocker actually looked quite good)
Allen to JHF (not a necessary trade, but WCE looked worse than I thought they would. With Allen not even able to score well against North I can't see him doing much in the coming weeks. JHF (while Boak is out) has the chance to really cement a midfield role and I think I need the scoring on field this week to cover for holding Jelly.

I'd probably prefer Worper/ Setters over JHF given they seem to be locked into the mids while JHF is still likely the 4th/5th once Port are full strength but the DPP flexibility is ideal.

Hopper will be given another week or so. And then I'll take another look at Worp/ Setters and see if there's a sideways trade needed.

Any thoughts?
 
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So with Daicos - all the concern with him being tagged is gone with one game? Also against a team that doesn't go into a game with a tagging mindset?

I had Daicos but changed and paid up for Stewart for fear of Daicos tag. I didn't see the game. I'm tempted for a straight change to Daicos, but I'm not clear about early point chasing at the same time as I can't hold Stewart. Backline is the darkest part of my nightmare start to the season.

Tempted to go Young as a POD.
 
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There are about 16 players I want to trade in this week and maybe 4 that I only kinda want to trade out.

JHF: I really should have looked at his preseason work as I'd just written him off out of hand due to his 2022. Will watch the replay tonight to get a better idea of whether he's worth the trade
Rachelle: Surprised he hasn't drawn more interest around here. Looked really good on the weekend, has a good size already and appears to have a good role and is under 300k. Won a couple of centre clearances but no idea of how to get his CBA numbers. Points per dollar, he has to be close to the best value of the mid-pricers after Callaghan . Has 5 of his next 6 games at Adelaide Oval and a trip away against Hawthorn
Ziegull: Role sounds good. Will have to watch the replay to see how the old man's getting around. Needs to be getting 100s in order to beat out some of the other value on offer and that makes him not so important to me. same with Setterfield for that matter. Maybe for JHF too, but it sounds like he could maybe hit that and then some. Will have to check the replay
Chandler: 123k mature aged rookie. Shaky JS maybe or a gift horse rookie for a few weeks.
Liam Henry: Did not look out of place at all and ran out the game well. Has North, West Coast, Adelaide and GCS to come and if he can continue with his 83 average, then at 202k he's gonna make bank in a real hurry. He kinda needs to because after that soft run he has Bulldogs, Lions, Sydney Geelong and Melbourne, with Hawthorn being the only easy beat team amongst all that. Massively on my radar though.

Then there's the rookies, Phillips, The Poo, Bytel.... Neither of them are screaming "must have" at the moment and can wait a week

The 500k defenders showed up this week. I'm missing Naicos, Rioli, Redman and Ridley. I already have Doc, Young and Richards though so there's no room at the inn, even if I did have the cash. Considering that Dawson, Sicily and Stewart all still look good to bring in at some stage, I'm going to have to make a choice pretty soon on which of those 500k players to grab.

I could generate cash by downgrading Macrae to either of De Goey or Rowell. I was really disappointed in Macrae's game on the weekend. Just didn't look to be in it. But then neither did the Bont, who was invisible for the entirety of I think it was the 3rd quarter IIRC. Those guys have teh Saints under the roof this week though so I'll give them a chance at bettering their performance against a rampant Melbourne. The D's would have made a lot of midfields look pedestrian on the weekend and I need these guys' ceilings for captain/vc purposes. Maybe I can jettison one of them.

I do like JDG as a pick. He looks in fantastic nick and was running around hardly gassed at the end of a big, pulsating game. Still had the energy to land that big roost from outside 50 with a few minutes to go. He has almost a pure midfield role now and there is very little room for him in our forward line so I can see those midfield minutes staying high. Not only that but he now has Titch getting first hands on it 10 times a game and passing it out to our runners. Tay is still good for a half dozen or more handouts too. Rowell I also like but he has the same knock on him as De Goey: durability. I also still haven't gotten around to watching his replay yet for reasons I alluded to in the gameday thread. Both are at crazy good prices at the moment though. Sub 500k. Dudes it's tempting......

And after all that, I still need to get into position to take advantage of Laird and Oliver's bad games. These two don't give you big windows to acquire their services and you have to be ready when the opportunity arises. Neale and Touk will have to wait. LDU.... too many decisions...

So who to ditch? Really, there's nobody that truly looked awful on the weekend. Hopper would be first in line but even he was just average. Bruhn didn't get the job done in the end and it wasn't just role. He just got to where the ball wasn't too much. Still did some nice things but looked to run out of tank in what was admittedly a high octane game. There's Chesser, Baker (see Bont and Macrae), Goater (not scoring enough for his premium), Cowan, Greene and Stoopid Sexy Flanders (who has a softish kind of draw over the next 5 games for a 250k mid/fwd). Darcy and Marshall were underwhelming but I think hold their spot as heading to Gawn/Witts feels wrong atm. Which probably makes it the right thing to do.

So there's a stack of opportunity there to improve on what looked a good opening score (2176) only because so many other people got torched by some remarkable premo carnage. I'm in a good spot right now but I don't think it is due to having that good an good opening squad. I'm usually dead against trading rookies in or out after 1 game and have traditionally believed in trusting my premos to bounce back, especially since you know... they did tonne up.

But this game needs you to finish your squad quickly. It's the only way to beat the cookie cutter that comes in late in the season. I need to generate cash in a hurry and think I'll need to burn 6 trades in the next 2 weeks
 
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So with Daicos - all the concern with him being tagged is gone with one game? Also against a team that doesn't go into a game with a tagging mindset?

I had Daicos but changed and paid up for Stewart for fear of Daicos tag. I didn't see the game. I'm tempted for a straight change to Daicos, but I'm not clear about early point chasing at the same time as I can't hold Stewart. Backline is the darkest part of my nightmare start to the season.

Tempted to go Young as a POD.
I still think he'll get tagged at times and more attention. Do I think he'll be hard tagged every game? No. Do I think that MaCrae and his team mates won't help Daicos work through the tag when it comes? No. Will a hard tag reduce his scores? Yep for sure, but I still think these heavy tage games will be 70+ scores and a heavy tag IMO will be less than more likely through the season.

Young is interesting, I can't take too much out of yesterdays game where Cox, Ryan, Clark and Young all cashed in with 57 marks between them - can't see that being a weekly occurrence so I'd be mindful of that, but I do like him as an option also.
 
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So with Daicos - all the concern with him being tagged is gone with one game? Also against a team that doesn't go into a game with a tagging mindset?

I had Daicos but changed and paid up for Stewart for fear of Daicos tag. I didn't see the game, but I'm not clear about early point chasing at the same time as I cant hold Stewart.
I think you have to stick with your pre-season read after a one game sample. Got to take a stand and have set opinions unless you get enough data to change your mind.

FYI, your read on Daicos is my read as well, I watched that game and he was just allowed to run freely anywhere he wanted with no attention. Cats justifiably a bit arrogant being the reigning premiers so probably thought they didn't need to put attention into him.

He got 129 SC points off 35 touches, I know CD had him down for 10 contested possessions in the game but if you watch him, he's almost completely an outside player. The tags are coming and his scores will plummet as a result IMO, because he can't get his own ball. He's a fantastically skilled player but just about all of what he does is circle-work. On the other hand, Cats were quite accurate so feasibly Daics could have had more touches as he took a number of kick ins as well. Overall for me, he's probably a bit of a trap. Will go large against teams that don't tag, but not so much against teams that do.
 
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Rachelle: Surprised he hasn't drawn more interest around here. Looked really good on the weekend, has a good size already and appears to have a good role and is under 300k. Won a couple of centre clearances but no idea of how to get his CBA numbers. Points per dollar, he has to be close to the best value of the mid-pricers after Callaghan . Has 5 of his next 6 games at Adelaide Oval and a trip away against Hawthorn
This is the best site I've found

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Rachelle: Surprised he hasn't drawn more interest around here. Looked really good on the weekend, has a good size already and appears to have a good role and is under 300k. Won a couple of centre clearances but no idea of how to get his CBA numbers. Points per dollar, he has to be close to the best value of the mid-pricers after Callaghan . Has 5 of his next 6 games at Adelaide Oval and a trip away against Hawthorn
He attended just about every CBA Adelaide won. He must've blown up at some point because his impact just faded drastically - he's only a second year, so this may be a common occurrence and if Adelaide doesn't get a jump his scoring probably won't hold up.
 
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Think I’ll do Fyfe to Sheezel. I’ll likely need to correct a few next week, and a score of 26 is ridiculous.
 
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He attended just about every CBA Adelaide won. He must've blown up at some point because his impact just faded drastically - he's only a second year, so this may be a common occurrence and if Adelaide doesn't get a jump his scoring probably won't hold up.
Gotcha. Thanks for that. And to NT Thunder for the link.

Yeah I didn't see the final quarter of the Crows/GWS game so didn't know about his fade out. Maybe the heat knocked him around too?
 

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Stewart to Daicos/Rich/Ryan
Chesser to Sheezel via DPP

Good luck all

He got 129 SC points off 35 touches, I know CD had him down for 10 contested possessions in the game but if you watch him, he's almost completely an outside player. The tags are coming and his scores will plummet as a result IMO, because he can't get his own ball. He's a fantastically skilled player but just about all of what he does is circle-work. On the other hand, Cats were quite accurate so feasibly Daics could have had more touches as he took a number of kick ins as well. Overall for me, he's probably a bit of a trap. Will go large against teams that don't tag, but not so much against teams that do.
Daicos is the safe choice and to be honest looked exceptional and even called for the ball from his teammates when he shouldn't have (that's great from a SC point of view)

Only concern was he 'only' scored 129 and i thought that game was a 140+ game and I expect more attention to him.

Good argument that Daicos could have scored more if Cats didn't kick so straight

I think Daicos a safe option and I am likely trading in Daicos but don't mind Rich or Ryan
 
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