Strategy 2023: Round 2 Trades

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You could maybe justify trading Laird to a Green or LDU if you they think will match Laird for the rest of the season as the cash you make can balance the loss of a trade. I expect those guys to average 110 max, but I don't see Laird dropping his average to that level based on just this one performance.

I would only sideways trade him to another +$600k player if you think he is going to well and truly fail this year.
 
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Need some help.
Stewart - Daicos (basically locked into this or something similar)

Kelly (HOLD)

Do l leave it at that?

Or, with the loss of scoring from Kelly, do I also trade:

Allen - JHF
Jones - Crozier (or Stocker)
I actually like Cogs role better and he looks as fit as a fiddle, so if you wanted to go sideways from Kelly to Cogs that would be a reasonable move from where I sit.
 
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I actually like Cogs role better and he looks as fit as a fiddle, so if you wanted to go sideways from Kelly to Cogs that would be a reasonable move from where I sit.
I am also considering this. The added bonus from Kelly to Cogs is that it frees up the cash to go Fyfe (whose role looks very much like SC garbage) to JHF (who really passed the eye test at the Oval on sat).
 
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Not much talk about Cole anymore, I thought he actually seemed to be playing and moving quite well.

Phillips is annoying. Wanted to get him traded in this week but possibly he's the sub, again, why... twice in a row is it likely he comes on again early in the game, sensibly he should be pushed to next week to consider trading him in with Hollands.

Have already done Bruhn to Chandler although that could still be changed. I liked the way that Chandler presented overall, but, is he a round one bolter trap with questionable job security...rookies should really not be traded in until they put up a good score in round 2 and get selected for round 3.

Seems like some of these guys in the 500s who really showed up in round 1 could be team savers this year if they look good again and may need to be traded in before they rise in price and lose their value. Can see half a dozen 500k 'ers who are on the watchlist for next week. If Neale scores 95 again and de Goey scores 130 well, just saying.

Can't push everything to round 3 or potentially there wont be enough trades!!
 
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1.Injury trade: Stewart > Daicos, Sicily, Ridley, Ryan, et al.

2. Baker or Chesser (DPP)
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Callaghan

Which one if I go down that path?

3. Chandler seems ideal, but probably need to wait another week, with one of the best small forwards coming back into the Dees team.
 
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Which of these would be best to consider for this week (and likely consider the other (in some form) next week)?

- O. Allen up to JHF (@ F5), or
- F. Greene down to Chandler (@ F8)

Thanks in advance.
 
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Which of these would be best to consider for this week (and likely consider the other (in some form) next week)?

- O. Allen up to JHF (@ F5), or
- F. Greene down to Chandler (@ F8)

Thanks in advance.
I personally think both JHF and Chandler are a watch for next week, for me and my team structure anyway. Both risky options at different price points
 
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The idea being to pick Laird back up in ~2 weeks after Flanders has made some money. Defence looking shaky at the moment, but that's next week's problem. I feel like I'm diluting my team too much though.
Think your defence looks fine, man. You mightn't be used to running that thin back there but when you look at your whole squad, prior to chanages, you're only running 4 rookie priced players on field and one of those is the mature aged Constable. I agree that Jones > McKenna is a good move as I don't rate Jones at all but that can be done regardless of your Laird trade. The rookies you wind up with there are rookies everyone seems to agree you should run with.

Now... I'm going out on a limb again by boosting for Laird but why not....

Your plan is to boot Laird and the get him back in about 2 weeks. How?

Are you going to keep that 445k just sitting there being unproductive for 2 whole weeks at this time of the year when every dollar you get earnign points means huge movements in your ranking? I'd say that no, you would want to put that money to use. Leaving nearly a half mil unproductive there for 2 rounds to save 50 or 60k isn't good use of your precious early season funds.

Ok so you put the 445k to work. How are you going to get Laird in again?

Furthermore..... If Laird performs pretty crappy for the next 2 weeks and drops his price, are you going to be up for buying back into him or will you chicken out,, thinking that he doesn't really seem to have it this year and that maybe last year was a career year and yada yada.

But if he scores well enough for you to want him back in your squad, then wouldn't it be better if he stayed in M1 making you points while you post things like "Thanks for repaying the faith Rory" and "All is forgiven" and all that stuff.

Finally, trading twice for 50k or so of benefit is really wasteful, even by today's standards.

For future reference, this is one of the big problems you get with the big money players. When they misfire, they can really test us.

Anyway... I get that you want JHF. I've brought him in too. Not sure that trading out Laird and holding all that cash as unproductive is a good call at all but.
 
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I think Hopper should be given another week to assess. I know the same was said about Bruhn and we know how that worked out 🤔, but I do have more confidence in Hopper coming good than I did about Bruhn.

FWIW, I'm going rouge and looking at Jelly and Greene to JHF and Ziebell to avoid Bruhn (E).

Not ideal, but Bruhn needs to go next week. My bench rookies have been relatively poor ( Rategulea, Greene, Cowan, Baker et al) so got to get some funds from somewhere.
A great thought,even better when you look at the byes ,both are r 15 Next week ,possibly regardless of how Laird performs , I am fading him for Jh-f and Ziebell along with my worst rook. Laird also has that Round 14 bye. The winner a few years back faded a very expensive God to get 2 similar players to JHF with success .It will end up costing 2 trades to get him back but hey it will be easily worth it ...I hope
 
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Lots of people trading Bytel. Could not find much about his "cut" until I found this below on Honeyball. Looks like he got the cut in the first quarter? If so he played out the rest of the game and kept Serong quiet. Run with/tag roles on mids can be quiet lucrative in SC terms for players trying to get more experience. The role tends to take them where the ball is. I am holding him at this stage.

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I've gone MPM and breakout heavy this year figuring that you need to get them right to win:
MPM: Hopper, Worpel, Callaghan, Bruhn, Flanderses, Callaghan
Breakouts: Young, Richards, Green, Gulden

Bruhn has already been corrected, currently to JHF. Hopper and Flanders may not make it past the weekend. ZB and Rachelle have put their hands up early and I'm also keeping an eye on young Liam Henry from Freo. He seems the sort of player who is in the right role to benefit from Freo's draw up to round 8 or so. 200k F/M. Plays North this week and if he scores well, is gonna be hard to pass up. So there's people to look at there, but I can wait a week. Thinking though that I need to be prepared to ditch an MPM for another.

I also think that there are more breakouts/value to chase with the 3 R's down back (4 if you count Rich but he's too old for my risk profile) and Daicos. THere's DeGoey, Rowell and of course LDU in the middle that might be worth getting on early too once we've had a look and up forward, I really should have kept Cogs instead of Rozee so far but the season is long and I can wait on that one for now.

My bench currently looks like Wilmot, Cowan, Goater, Baker, Chesser, Madden, Flanders, Greene. Ie, a bit of a wasteland. I need to get some cash gen happening there and fast and I think that rules out tinkering with premos for the next couple of weeks.

I've got 22k in the bank and 5 trades left before price rises, not counting any MPMs that demand picking that can be spent on rookies. The two backs don't have anyone yet threatening their spots. I could switch Chesser or Goater back if needs be but Wilmot and Cowan are looking like classic slow burn back rookies while Goater/Chesser look beige or crap. Madden isn't tradeable for obvious reasons. So Goater, Baker, Chesser, Flanders and Greene are in the gun. Baker, I like. Mature age rookie priced and should be able to average 60 when not facing the Melbourne juggernaut. Leaves 3 rookies and Flanders in the gun.

I think Hollands is a must have for reasons mentioned in the game day thread. Likewise, I liked what I saw from Pou and if I'm forced to bring him in this week to make trade room for next week, then I'm ok with that. I think he is the highest reward/lowest risk of the other names on offer. Now I can't fund these guys without altering my 22 and I can't predict which ones I'll need to turf out of there yet. So it has to be funded out of Goater or Flanders. Say Goater and a 123k rookie to Pou and Hollands. Can do that with my 22k in the bank, leaving me 9k. I lose a D/M link in Goater but doubt I would be using that yet with Chesser in there anyway. And if I correct Chesser, with me looking to get Bowes, Yeo or even Crozier down back soon, I'll be able to reform that link with Constable/Ginbey anyway.

Right.... so trade 2 is Goater > Pou. Leaves Chesser, Flanders and Greene near the cannon looking nervous. I've now got a M/F link which is always noice to have and I've funded next week's trade of Chesser/Greene > Hollands.

There's nobody really screaming to get picked this week and I've already claimed a trade for next week. I'm going to have to take a chance on someone this week. It's going to have to be Chandler. I think for Flanders so that I've got the money banked. With only 2 trades left next week already, I don't have the luxury of freeing up cash then and will have to grab the best payers I can for cash gen.

---- me what an essay. Sorry about all that guys but I needed to get the thoughts out on paper instead of bouncing about my head. I was getting really close to going Macrae > DeGoey for the returned cash, onfield points and potential breakout.
Quite a mouthful but easily understood as many are in that phase. The bit I disagree with is the last bit Chesser /greene to Hollands WHY? cause both chesser and greene will be played and at worst slow burn and Hollands is really not much better than either as an S/C choice
 
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Lots of people trading Bytel. Could not find much about his "cut" until I found this below on Honeyball. Looks like he got the cut in the first quarter? If so he played out the rest of the game and kept Serong quiet. Run with/tag roles on mids can be quiet lucrative in SC terms for players trying to get more experience. The role tends to take them where the ball is. I am holding him at this stage.

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Yuh. Bytel is looking like an import into my squad after round 3 at this stage. Not sure why anyone would be booting him. He looked the part.
 
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Quite a mouthful but easily understood as many are in that phase. The bit I disagree with is the last bit Chesser /greene to Hollands WHY? cause both chesser and greene will be played and at worst slow burn and Hollands is really not much better than either as an S/C choice
Thanks NDD.

I think that Wilmot and Cowan will also be slow burns and that is more than enough.

The issue with MPM teams is that after they start well, they generally tend to fall behind due to insufficient cash generation. I don't think I can afford 4 slow burns on the bench on top of my R3 donut and want as many rookies making the cash as fast as possible. Since I don't see anyone really viable down back to replace Wilmot and Cowan, it has to be Greene and Chesser in the gun.

I wrote in another thread that I think Hollands fitness and outside game mean that he should get plenty of games to start with and maybe make it to the low-mid 300ks. He should get that significantly faster than Greene/Chesser make it to 270-300k IMV.

Edit: Greene also has Syd, Nth, Gee, GWS, Ade, WBD, Fre and Melb over the next 8 weeks. Yeah there may be a spike game or two in there for the tallish forward but its just as likely that it's surrounded by more of the 30s that he posted last week.

Alright I admit it. It's also because I'm a bit of a trade junkie right now. But at least I admit that I have a problem, right?
 
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