Strategy 2023: Round 3 Trades

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Super torn between options for my side below. Thoughts?

Removing Bytel or Callaghan not ideal, but they get me some great ins.

Option #1 – Bytel / Bruhn / Darcy > LDU / Chandler / English (leaves 4.5k)
Option #2 – Chesser / Bruhn / Darcy > Setterfield / Ziebell / Cameron (leaves 61.7k)
Option #3 – Callaghan / Bruhn / Darcy > Setterfield / Ziebell / Cameron (leaves 66.7k)


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I like option 2
 
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The issue there though is you’ve used 2 trades for $130k. One to bring him in and then the one to get him up to a genuine premium. Not sure the upside is enough to be worth 2 trades - I agree with the earlier comment about either having started him or passing. I think you need either need to bring in players with a chance of being a keeper, or players with a bit more upside.
It's only one trade though vs the alternative scenario(?)

Player A > Player C
vs
Player A > Player B > Player C

So the incremental cost ist one trade, no?

Might be a flaw in the logic on my part.
 
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Rather than just calling it a rage trade, have we already seen enough already to accept that Darcy was a failed pick?

Last week if IIRC he had a massive last qtr to get to a half respectable 96. This week he was absolutely putrid, looked non existent and didn’t even care.

We all knew that Jackson coming in would have an impact, but don’t think anyone expected it to pan out like last night where Jackson took majority of the ruck in first half. Is it time to accept that maybe the Jackson impact is going to be more than we thought?

At this moment, Darcy seems to be my obvious avenue to get in Daicos by trading him to Darcy Cameron. However, the only thing that’s making me 2nd guess, is if Darcy was to bounce back and go huge, it would be against a ruck less WCE…
Gotta be in the ruck to do that...

I'm an owner as well... IDK
 
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Whats your thought on doc? Seems like carlton have a few players playing similar roles who are pinching points off each other. sadd, newman even mcgovern to an extent. Looks like more of a 95-100 player atm..
No real issues, not ideal to have a bad score in round 2 but he had 4 games under 90 last year (3 70s), he'll cancel them out with a couple of big scores.

He had probably a dozen times in the game his teammates could have gone him and they generally do. Basically he looked fine and scored badly.

On my list of problems right now, he's just about at the bottom of the list. Congratulations if he's near the top of yours :)

I get what you’re saying but I massively disagree with you saying the price doesn’t matter and that a mid pricer (eg Setterfield) and a $123k rookie are the same, cause they definitely aren’t, as:

1. The rookie has a much higher ceiling for potential cash gen. It’s not unreasonable for a rookie to push up to $300k from a $123k starting price, and the ability for them to do so is much more likely than the mid pricer making that level of cash.

2. The bar to be successful is much lower, as the rookie doesn’t need to hit 90-100 scores every week to make the money. Even your scenario for Setterfield requires some pretty best case scenario stuff.

3. The risks are far lower of a dud score derailing them completely. If Setterfield comes out and scores 60 this week his cash gen is destroyed and now it’s 2 trades for no benefit. While rookies can also fail, the range for them is much safer.

So if doing a correction trade after round 2, 10/10 times it should be to a missed rookie that is scoring well over a mid pricer. How many times have we see guys go 130+ for the first 2 games then revert to 80’s once everyone jumps on..

The only missing factor in this is the on-field aspect. If comparing say Chandler and Setterfield, one is producing very good on-field scoring and has a role that's likely to continue to do so while Chandler has quite possibly put up his two best scores.

If cash gen is the only factor then the Chandler type is a better play, if on field scoring is a factor, and it likely is at round 3, then that factor is definitely worth considering.

Basically it comes down to whether getting say 30 points on field is worth more than the extra 50-100k that the rookie is likely to make. Really depends on how long you're going to be fielding them for this.
 
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So confused about trades.

Out Doc, in N Daicos - doesn't feel right, but hey
Out Chesser via DPP swap with Pou, in Ziebell - Also means I can take Pedlar/Pou off field in FWDS
Out Darcy, in Cameron - Probably scores 200 against WC now.

Going for Ziebel means I will miss out on either Chandler and Worpel.

Bugger.

But I see Ziebell as being a potential keeper with his current role and if I were to go Worpel, I would need to field Pou or Pedlar. which is not ideal.
 
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Have a plan for if Hopper is out for 3+weeks (possibly even 2).

Hopper to Setterfield
Ridley to Naicos
Chesser to Chandler via Davey

Means I have to hold Flanders. I will then trade him next week to whoever looks better out of Bowes and Crozier via Constable. I need Flanders to go up 6.3k to reach Bowes which requires 49 or 50🤞. Whoever I get will be a POD.

After all of this I will still have DEF-MID and MID-FWD swings with Davey in the mids and 4 MID/FWD’s in the fwd line as well as Constable in the mids with Ginbey in defence.

Quietly hoping Hopper gets ruled out for a while (unlikely) as I think this will give me an advantage.
 
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Super torn between options for my side below. Thoughts?

Removing Bytel or Callaghan not ideal, but they get me some great ins.

Option #1 – Bytel / Bruhn / Darcy > LDU / Chandler / English (leaves 4.5k)
Option #2 – Chesser / Bruhn / Darcy > Setterfield / Ziebell / Cameron (leaves 61.7k)
Option #3 – Callaghan / Bruhn / Darcy > Setterfield / Ziebell / Cameron (leaves 66.7k)


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Option 1 - two massive premos and an Uber cash cow.
 
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I’m hoping some of you guys can talk me out of this because I just feel so dirty doing it.

Currently ranked 2,824th overall.

Docherty > Daicos
Hopper (Assuming his injured) > Setterfield
Chessar > Chandler

I’ve always been one to trade conservatively but with 36 available this year, being aggressive is the way to go.

I’m not usually one to ask for advice/opinions on trades but I really need some positive reinforcement or sense talked into me. Lol.
 
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Out: Bailey Dale, Chesser & Flanders
In: McKenna, LDU & Chandler

Cash is king & with this I shouldn't lose too much value across the side. I maintain a premo & grab two of the most likely scoring rooks across their respective lines. Chandler may hit a wall in a few weeks, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.

It means Hunter Clark survives as surely he gets an extended look inside with decent TOG seeing as Steele is out. If he's still low TOG then he really doesn't have a tank and needs to go.

The Hopper injury really is annoying as he showed his potential on the weekend. Hopefully he can get a price rise in before I turn him into Laird, but with 300k sitting in my kitty that needs to be on the field I get the feeling that'll be sooner rather than later.
 
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I've got the one trade locked in for this week but really unsure on my other 2 at the moment, and they are probably season defining.

Fyfe > Setterfield is definitelty happening, I traded Jelly to Cogs last week so I will swing him forward.

Couple of options for my other two, at the moment I have Darcy > Cameron and Flanders > Ziebell but that means I will miss Chandler which may hurt me in the long run, but probably gives me more scoring power for now.

The other options I'm considering are Darcy > Cameron/English and Flanders > Chandler or Chesser > Chandler. These will net me Chandlers rookie cash but means I will miss out on Ziebell's points on field for now and will be stuck with probably Flanders or Phillipou on field instead.

Any thoughts SCS?
 

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LDU’s a long term pick - no need to fret about one potentially tagged game in the short term.

Besides, Magginess was playing HF and HB against the Swans and not tagging anyone against Syd, when there were targets available. Don’t recall him tagging anyone at the Dons in R1 either.

If the Hawks current form is anything to go by, they’ll likely get blown away by the Kangas (in good form) by HT and there’ll be no point in having a tag.
 
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I’m hoping some of you guys can talk me out of this because I just feel so dirty doing it.

Currently ranked 2,824th overall.

Docherty > Daicos
Hopper (Assuming his injured) > Setterfield
Chessar > Chandler

I’ve always been one to trade conservatively but with 36 available this year, being aggressive is the way to go.

I’m not usually one to ask for advice/opinions on trades but I really need some positive reinforcement or sense talked into me. Lol.
Anyone else you can use to get Setterfield? If Hopper misses it will likely just be one week and he is probably going to get you to a similarish price as Setterfield.
 

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I’m hoping some of you guys can talk me out of this because I just feel so dirty doing it.

Currently ranked 2,824th overall.

Docherty > Daicos
Hopper (Assuming his injured) > Setterfield
Chessar > Chandler

I’ve always been one to trade conservatively but with 36 available this year, being aggressive is the way to go.

I’m not usually one to ask for advice/opinions on trades but I really need some positive reinforcement or sense talked into me. Lol.
Difficult to assess the best path forward without being given the full picture (I.e squad before trades, remaining salary, etc).
 

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He was definitely tagging Zerrett/Parish during the 1st half, the Hawks dropped the tag after HT.
Might’ve been matched up on one of them around the ground as Magginess didn’t have any CBAs. Good sign that it was dropped after HT though, Kangas probably will end up in a similar position!
 
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For those of us considering trading in Cameron this week, what’s the plan long term for him, is it to swing him forward and bring in gawn for example? If so, do we think he has the credentials to be a top 6-10 forward from here?
 
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I get what you’re saying but I massively disagree with you saying the price doesn’t matter and that a mid pricer (eg Setterfield) and a $123k rookie are the same, cause they definitely aren’t, as:

1. The rookie has a much higher ceiling for potential cash gen. It’s not unreasonable for a rookie to push up to $300k from a $123k starting price, and the ability for them to do so is much more likely than the mid pricer making that level of cash.

2. The bar to be successful is much lower, as the rookie doesn’t need to hit 90-100 scores every week to make the money. Even your scenario for Setterfield requires some pretty best case scenario stuff.

3. The risks are far lower of a dud score derailing them completely. If Setterfield comes out and scores 60 this week his cash gen is destroyed and now it’s 2 trades for no benefit. While rookies can also fail, the range for them is much safer.

So if doing a correction trade after round 2, 10/10 times it should be to a missed rookie that is scoring well over a mid pricer. How many times have we see guys go 130+ for the first 2 games then revert to 80’s once everyone jumps on..
Jake Bowey from last season comes to mind here..
 
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Anyone prepared to roll the dice on Pendles? The half back experiment looks over, but it did bring his price down to a pleasant 520k. Been rolling back the clock with dual 120s to open

Go on.... 1 last time.... you know you wanna 😀
Doesnt he look good. Back where he belongs, just surpreme awareness and skills.
 
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