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It's not an intellectual thing and that's what people don't understand about changing a rule overnight. These are habits that are built up over a period of time that become subconscious actions and now the AFL expects players to change overnight. It's pretty difficult in human nature to go from a subconscious action to a deliberate action because one day someone wakes up and says don't do it that way anymore.

It's like someone saying tomorrow we are all going to drive on the right hand side of the road and expect no accidents to cover.
Yeah but the thing is the sling tackles have been on the nose for years now, I remember Taylor Walker having to get them out of his games years ago…

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/ta...s/news-story/a93ef2108111ab3c1d9391d54855576d

https://www.afl.com.au/news/139877/tex-cops-his-whack-two-match-ban-stays
 
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Yeah, that's sort of my point. It's not the umpires "fault" or job to fix anything though. But the AFL hides behind them.

They want to keep the ball in motion so the "interpretation" of the rule lets the tackled player have longer to rid of it - but the tackler has to work harder not to break the tackle - that's where second movements and the slings come in. Pay holding the ball when it's being held earlier, there's no need to have any second movements, sling or otherwise. Dispose of the ball when you're tackled, not when you've been turned 360+ degrees, etc.

The other consequence is the throws and faux-disposals. It muddies the game, and every now and then there are good passages of play.
Yep 100% agree. And the whole “made an attempt” interpretation also doesn’t help. When players don’t get lunges for dropping the ball out, and when the tackler isn’t being rewarded, it does exactly what you said - created a need for secondary actions or unnecessary force!
 
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I'm of the firm belief that the on-field umpires have a critical role to play in this latest 'sling' tackle debate.

At the center of this debate is their want (or AFL mandate) to reduce the number of stoppages in favour of a more free flowing spectacle. I'm sure that many of you here will agree when I say that there are countless times during a game where we see a player being tackled by a vice-like grip that there's no easy means for them to dispose of the footy. How many times though do we see these umpires, almost lurking in some instances, in the hope that the ball will eventually come loose in order to keep the game flowing.

From a player's perspective (note that I've never played competitive aussie rule football, outside at school), the player being tackle would make every effort to try and break free in order to not be penalised for HTB, by the same token, the tackler would make every effort to prevent the player from releasing the ball, by every means possible in the hope of getting a HTB decision. Typically during this type of physical struggles between two elite sportsmen, the likelihood outcome is that the 'forces' will inevitably lead to them falling onto the ground. From there, you're pretty much entering a grey area with regards to how the fall took place, which part of the body took the fall, height/weight of the players involved, was the ground hard or soft, etc.

My suggestion would be for a directive to the umpires that they need to be more diligent in quickly blowing the whistle for a ball up when it's obvious that 'natural' ball movement has come to a halt. I believe that by applying some common sense into how these type of football acts are umpired, rather than religiously adhering to the mandate of fostering a free flowing spectacle would hopefully go a long way towards eradicating these type of contentious MRO judgements.
Great shout @THCLT if you look at video footage from the late 80’s and early 90’s umpires below the whistle as soon as someone was tackled.
There we’re less tackles and stoppages during that time as well, where 30 tackles a game was considered high…

definately food for thought
 
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Great shout @THCLT if you look at video footage from the late 80’s and early 90’s umpires below the whistle as soon as someone was tackled.
There we’re less tackles and stoppages during that time as well, where 30 tackles a game was considered high…

definately food for thought
I think it's Mathew Richardson who has been saying this for quite a long time now, ie blow the whistle sooner...I can almost sense the other commentators rolling their eyeballs but have often thought in the current context of the game he is probably correct.
 
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Heard Ginbey is injured?
Heard on local perth news last night he was sore, didnt mention he was in any doubt to play though. I wouldn't be shocked if he was rested (purely my opinion), although with so many injuries at the eagles he may have to play.

The link below talks more to the poke in the eye, but also says "It was first of two rough incidents for Ginbey, whose head slammed into the ground in a dangerous Rhys Stanley tackle during the second quarter". take that for what you will.

https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/youn...tated-after-copping-nasty-eye-poke-c-10360210
 
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Heard on local perth news last night he was sore, didnt mention he was in any doubt to play though. I wouldn't be shocked if he was rested (purely my opinion), although with so many injuries at the eagles he may have to play.

The link below talks more to the poke in the eye, but also says "It was first of two rough incidents for Ginbey, whose head slammed into the ground in a dangerous Rhys Stanley tackle during the second quarter". take that for what you will.

https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/youn...tated-after-copping-nasty-eye-poke-c-10360210
Did that Stanley one even get a free kick paid, let alone a report?

Wait, he plays for Geelong, stupid question...

I know Rohan did cop a week (which should have been more), but to be honest, he's not much of a loss.
 
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