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You can tell from this photo that it deserves 2 weeks.
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And I think people saying otherwise should declare if he's in their team or not.
 
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You can tell from this photo that it deserves 2 weeks.
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And I think people saying otherwise should declare if he's in their team or not.
Just think it was exceptionally clumsy. One week would have sufficed in my opinion. Two weeks is an overreaction. If he’d connected with a fist, should’ve been 4+ weeks.

I do own him, but not fussed either way if he plays or not.
 
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You can tell from this photo that it deserves 2 weeks.
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And I think people saying otherwise should declare if he's in their team or not.
I am a non-owner and can’t see how it gets 2 weeks. Shouldn’t even be a fine. If this is what the AFL wants, then there should be at least 10 suspensions next week from failed spoils that hit the opposition. This kind of incident happens most games but this one’s outcome was a bit worse (not JVR’s fault) and resulted in a stop in play which makes it more noticeable.

That’s how I see it anyway.
 
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Just think it was exceptionally clumsy. One week would have sufficed in my opinion. Two weeks is an overreaction. If he’d connected with a fist, should’ve been 4+ weeks.

I do own him, but not fussed either way if he plays or not.
I would say careless rather than clumsy. At least players know where the line is now.
 
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I think this is what happens though when you go down a rigid judicial type system, it takes all flexibility out of any decision making. I mean the Newman decision was based on incompetence/inconsistency but because of the judicial system in place, commonsense wasn't able to be used to make the correct call.

This is a football game, not a criminal trial. If an act on the field deserves to be charged under the criminal code then it should be trialed accordingly.

To me this is the AFL running scared of future litigation issues like former footballers Gary Ablett SNR and have over-compensated. I mean for my child to do gymnastics I need to sign waivers/indemnity saying they're not responsible for any injuries etc. Why can't an AFL footballer do the same?
Duty of care for your child is yours, duty of care for employees/players is the AFL. Though I think a signed waiver from player citing and knowing the risks, etc and indemnifying the AFL from future litigation would help a lot. But probably cant retro fit that waiver for current or past players.
So we are most likely stuck with this show for a generation until all players are signed and sealing prior to playing AFL.
 
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I am a non-owner and can’t see how it gets 2 weeks. Shouldn’t even be a fine. If this is what the AFL wants, then there should be at least 10 suspensions next week from failed spoils that hit the opposition. This kind of incident happens most games but this one’s outcome was a bit worse (not JVR’s fault) and resulted in a stop in play which makes it more noticeable.

That’s how I see it anyway.
I see your point but it's a new era in protecting the head and neck now.
 
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I would say careless rather than clumsy. At least players know where the line is now.
Careless, in my opinion, would have been running through the man when trying to spoil.

He actually did try to have his body go to the side as he made the spoiling motion, so he did actually make a decent decision in that regard. It’s just that his body positioning caused the spoiling arm to make connection with the head, hence why I call it clumsy.

If he runs through the man like a lot do, he likely collects the ball rather than the head, concedes a free kick and doesn’t get suspended as there’s no head contact.
 
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Careless, in my opinion, would have been running through the man when trying to spoil.

He actually did try to have his body go to the side as he made the spoiling motion, so he did actually make a decent decision in that regard. It’s just that his body positioning caused the spoiling arm to make connection with the head, hence why I call it clumsy.

If he runs through the man like a lot do, he likely collects the ball rather than the head, concedes a free kick and doesn’t get suspended as there’s no head contact.
Hitting the head and neck is more dangerous than hitting the body.
 
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BE is lower than Gawn, my preference is wait atleast one week.

Ideally, Gawn has a mix of games, next week easy vs Port, yet hopefully we can just add him in week 12 in our fwd line. Having said that, Marshall to Gawn next week and Walsh in Round 12 may still be preferred.

If on a small chance Marshall doesnt play and we know in time, to Gawn this week it is and we pocket the money.
 
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So the bloke that tried to spoil gets the same punishment as the bloke who strikes another player behind the play. These tribunal people are on crack.
Yep, same with Picketts full on shoulder charge into the head two weeks, Day tackle in play pins arms two weeks. Total joke!
They really don't want to suspend people for more than two weeks it seems, unless it's something really egregious like breaking a jaw or being Toby Greene. As a result we see careless football acts like JVR getting two weeks, the same as what is essentially assault (a punch that's got nothing to do with football).
 
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Stuart Dew this am on SEN re when Touk Miller will be back:-

"Out of the brace yesterday, to heal properly probably 8 weeks, should be back after bye but probably well into the back of season."
That's brutal. Was saving a spot for him, I feel like this makes Anderson a lot more viable, or otherwise that a somewhat speculative pick isn't the worst idea. Lots to ponder when teams drop.
 
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