Strategy 2023: Rookies Discussion

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Who is Angwin keeping out of the GWS team? Looking at their emergencies and injury list, his spot would appear to be pretty safe in the short term. Tossing up between Angwin and Simpson and the extra cash from going Angwin certainly helps
 
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Who is Angwin keeping out of the GWS team? Looking at their emergencies and injury list, his spot would appear to be pretty safe in the short term. Tossing up between Angwin and Simpson and the extra cash from going Angwin certainly helps
Wehr and Lloyd are the obvious ones, playing that winger role before Angwin. However Lloyd isn't a natural winger so it's not a stretch to say Angwin should hold, even with Lloyd easing back this week, and Wehr is still 5-7 weeks away. Stone is an option but it doesn't really play to his strengths and he's still 4-5 away anyway.
 
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Who is Angwin keeping out of the GWS team? Looking at their emergencies and injury list, his spot would appear to be pretty safe in the short term. Tossing up between Angwin and Simpson and the extra cash from going Angwin certainly helps
Wehr and Lloyd are the obvious ones, playing that winger role before Angwin. However Lloyd isn't a natural winger so it's not a stretch to say Angwin should hold, even with Lloyd easing back this week, and Wehr is still 5-7 weeks away. Stone is an option but it doesn't really play to his strengths and he's still 4-5 away anyway.
Lloyd had been playing wing and was the late out for Angwin 2 weeks ago. He didn't play at any level last week (test) and is an EMG this week now (assume may play VFL, or even be the sub)

GWS coach has said they've moved Fahey to the wing in the VFL to fast-track him to the AFL team (couldn't get in ahead of Whitfield/Ash) which I think spells big danger for Angwin too.

As dlanod mentions, Wehr is the preferred winger but is 5-7 away.

I think his JS is terrible in the short term, but I need the extra cash from Angwin over Simpson, and don't love Simpson's role anyway.
 
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Lloyd had been playing wing and was the late out for Angwin 2 weeks ago. He didn't play at any level last week (test) and is an EMG this week now (assume may play VFL, or even be the sub)

GWS coach has said they've moved Fahey to the wing in the VFL to fast-track him to the AFL team (couldn't get in ahead of Whitfield/Ash) which I think spells big danger for Angwin too.

As dlanod mentions, Wehr is the preferred winger but is 5-7 away.

I think his JS is terrible in the short term, but I need the extra cash from Angwin over Simpson, and don't love Simpson's role anyway.
Simpson has potential for a spike game or two, not going to be starved of goal scoring opportunities in that side.
 
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Round 4 AFL, round 3 VFL, round 2 WAFL & SANFL
Good rookie performances in the VFL/SANFL/WAFL:
Josh Fahey (123k DEF/MID) had another 37 touches (31 kicks) for GWS VFL.
Jaxon Binns (117k MID/FWD) had 31 touches and 2 goals for Carlton VFL.
Toby McLean (178k MID/FWD) had 47 touches and 9 tackles for Footscray.
Jason Gillbee (102k DEF/MID) had 24 touches and 1.1 for GWS VFL.
Zac Taylor (123k MID) had 26 and a goal along with 9 clearances for Adelaide.
Karl Worner (123k DEF/MID) had 27 touches for Fremantle.
Round 5 AFL, round 4 VFL, round 3 WAFL & SANFL
Good rookie performances in the VFL/WAFL:
Alex Cincotta (102k DEF/MID) had 37 disposals (25 kicks) to go with 8 marks and 4 tackles for Carlton VFL.
Jaxon Binns (117k MID/FWD) had 30 disposals (21 kicks) to go with 11 marks (HB role?) for Carlton VFL.
Sam Durdin (188k DEF) had 26 disposals (18 kicks) along with 16 marks for Carlton VFL.
Deven Robertson (202k MID) had 26 disposals (18 kicks), 5 marks, 4 tackles and 2.0 for Brisbane VFL.
Aaron Francis (189k DEF/FWD) had 8 disposals (all kicks) with 7 marks to kick 3.0 for Sydney VFL.
Miller Bergman (165k DEF) had 26 disposals (16 kicks) to go with 9 marks for North Melbourne VFL.
Eddie Ford (123k FWD) had 23 disposals (11 kicks) with 7 marks and 0.1 for North Melbourne VFL.
Oliver Dempsey (148k FWD) had 23 disposals (11 kicks), 3 tackles and 1.0 for Geelong VFL.
Josh Weddle (130k DEF) had 21 disposals (9 kicks) and 4 marks for Box Hill.
Max Ramsden (123k RUC/FWD) had 13 disposals (8 kicks) along with 6 marks, 8 hitouts and 4.1 for Box Hill.
Finlay Macrae (123k MID/FWD) had 29 disposals (16 kicks) and 9 tackles for Collingwood VFL.
Jack Peris (123k MID/FWD) had 13 disposals (4 kicks), 8 tackles and 2.1 for Sandringham.
Patrick Voss (123k FWD) had 14 disposals (9 kicks), 4 marks, 2 tackles and 2.0 for Essendon VFL.
Bailey Laurie (123k MID/FWD) had 33 disposals (16 kicks) and 0.2 for Casey.
Taj Woewodin (123k MID/FWD) had 23 disposals (11 kicks), 3 marks, 3 tackles and 0.1 for Casey.
Coby Burgiel (117k MID/FWD) had 22 disposals (17 kicks), 3 marks and a tackle for West Coast WAFL.
Karl Worner (123k DEF/MID) had 30 disposals (18 kicks) along with 8 marks and 2 tackles for Peel Thunder.
Sebit Kuek (123k FWD) had 14 disposals (10 kicks), 4 marks and 4.1 for Peel Thunder.

GWS, Gold Coast, Footscray, Adelaide and Port Adelaide all had byes.

Hard to see many rookies coming through which is extremely worrying and is why I’m not upgrading this week. Going to need a few LTI’s to AFL regulars for the rookies to come through I think.
Round 6 AFL, round 5 VFL, round 4 WAFL & SANFL
Good rookie performances in the VFL/WAFL/SANFL:
James Tunstill (187k MID, BRL) had 32 disposals (20 kicks), 5 marks and 1.1. No tackles so likely a wing role.
Deven Robertson (202k MID, BRL) had 29 disposals (13 kicks), 4 marks, 9 tackles and 1.1. He has 0 and a -1 in his price cycle to give him a BE of 118 so might drop to a nice price.
Kai Lohmann (146k FWD, BRL) had 22 disposals (16 kicks), 5 marks, 4 tackles and 1.1.
Harry Sharp (123k MID, BRL) had 18 disposals (10 kicks), 3 marks, 1 tackle and 1.1.
Jaxon Binns (117k MID/FWD, CAR) had 29 disposals (25 kicks) 10 marks, no tackles and 1.0. Yet another good performance for Binns. Still find it hard to see him playing wing ahead of Acres, Hollands and LOB at AFL level. Might play forward if he gets a game?
Lachie Fogarty (167k MID/FWD, CAR) had 28 disposals (15 kicks), 9 marks, 6 tackles and 0.1.
Edward Allan (126k MID, COL) had 18 disposals (11 kicks), 5 marks and 7 tackles.
Reef McInnes (165k FWD, COL) had 10 disposals (8 kicks), 4 marks, 4 tackles and 3.2.
Karl Worner (123k DEF/MID, FRE) had 21 disposals (15 kicks), 3 marks and 6 tackles.
Charlie Constable (123k DEF/MID, GCS) had 29 disposals (21 kicks), 8 marks and 3 tackles. Another good performance for him. Good to see a few tackles too.
Connor Blakely (123k MID, GCS) had 24 disposals (12 kicks), 4 marks and 3 tackles.
Thomas Berry (123k FWD, GCS) had 23 disposals (11 kicks), 4 marks, 3 tackles and 1.0.
Oskar Faulkhead (123k MID/FWD, GCS) had 18 disposals (8 kicks), 5 marks, 4 tackles and 2.2.
Brodie McLaughlin (102k FWD, GCS) had 17 disposals (9 kicks), 8 marks, 3 tackles, 2 HO, 4.2.
James Tsitas (123k MID/FWD, GCS) had 16 disposals (11 kicks), 8 marks, 2 tackles and 3.0.
Wade Derksen (123k FWD, GWS) had 24 disposals (13 kicks), 4 marks, 4 tackles, 12 HO and 0.1.
Cameron Fleeton (123k DEF, GWS) had 23 disposals (13 kicks), 8 marks and 2 tackles.
Jason Gillbee (102k DEF/MID, GWS) had 20 disposals (15 kicks), 3 marks and 1 tackle.
Jack O’Sullivan (117k FWD, HAW) had 27 disposals (16 kicks), 7 marks, 1 tackle and 1.3.
Josh Weddle (130k DEF, HAW) had 27 disposals (18 kicks), 10 marks and 2 tackles.
Max Ramsden (123k RUC/FWD, HAW) had 11 disposals (6 kicks), 6 marks, 1 tackle, 12 HO and 2.2.
Taj Woewodin (123k MID/FWD, MEL) had 22 disposals (12 kicks), 2 marks, 2 tackles and 0.1.
George Wardlaw (193k MID, NTH) had 23 disposals (10 kicks), 3 marks and 8 tackles. Must be getting close.
Blake Drury (102k MID/FWD, NTH) had 19 disposals (9 kicks), 6 marks, 2 tackles and 2.0.
Hamish Free (102k RUC, NTH) had 17 disposals (10 kicks), 2 marks, 1 tackle, 30 HO and 1.0.
Francis Evans (136k FWD, PTA) had 18 disposals (14 kicks), 5 marks, 3 tackles and 2.1.
Jacob Bauer (123k FWD, RIC) had 21 disposals (17 kicks), 5 marks and no tackles.
Sam Banks (123k DEF/MID, RIC) had 19 disposals (14 kicks), 4 marks and 3 tackles.
Jack Bytel (160k MID, STK) had 39 disposals (20 kicks), 3 marks, 4 tackles and 0.1. Next highest possession getter for Sandringham was 23.
Leo Connolly (123k DEF, STK) had 21 disposals (9 kicks), 3 marks, 1 tackle and 0.1.
Jack Peris (123k MID/FWD, STK) had 17 disposals (9 kicks), 4 marks, 5 tackles and 1.0.
Angus Sheldrick (165k MID/FWD, SYD) had 39 disposals (19 kicks), 6 marks, 7 tackles and 2.0. Might come in for Roberts?
Corey Warner (123k MID/FWD, SYD) had 23 disposals (14 kicks), 2 marks, 3 tackles and 0.1.
Cooper Vickery (117k DEF, SYD) has 18 disposals (13 kicks), 5 marks, 1 tackles and 1.1.
Hugo Hall-Kahan (123k FWD, SYD) had 14 disposals (11 kicks), 5 marks, 6 tackles and 2.2.
 
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Round 7 AFL, round 6 VFL, round 5 WAFL & SANFL
Good rookie performances in the VFL/WAFL/SANFL:
Billy Dowling (117k MID, ADE) had 28 disposals (15 kicks), 8 marks, 3 tackles and 1.1 for 108AF.
Tariek Newchurch (123k FWD, ADE) had 16 disposals (9 kicks), 6 marks, 8 tackles and 4.2 for 114AF.
Jaxon Binns (117k MID/FWD, CAR) had 28 disposals (18 kicks), 6 marks, 4 tackles and 1.0 for 115AF. His performances are stacking up and is pushing his case for selection. Still wasn’t even an emergency last week which isn’t great. Carlton’s depth of wingers doesn’t fill me with confidence, but he did play better than LOB on the weekend so hopefully he’s goes past him soon.
Karl Worner (123k DEF/MID, FRE) had 33 disposals (16 kicks), 11 marks and 3 tackles. Been performing well for over a year now, but still never looks like a chance of getting a game.
Tom Emmett (117k FWD, FRE) had 17 disposals (12 kicks), 3 marks, 4 tackles and 3.2.
Corey Wagner (117k DEF/MID, FRE) had 16 disposals (12 kicks), 3 marks and 1 tackle. Only made the list due to his current relevance. Poor performance from him and with Worner and Wilson (26 and a goal) both performing much better, it’s hard to see him coming back any time soon.
Jhye Clark (175k MID, GEE) had 29 disposals (19 kicks), 5 marks, 4 tackles and 0.1 for 107AF.
Ted Clohesy (102k MID, GEE) had 26 disposals (15 kicks), 8 marks, 6 tackles and 1.2 for 121AF.
Connor Blakely (123k MID, GCS) had 35 disposals (15 kicks), 9 marks and 10 tackles for 155AF. Could he be the answer with Touk out?
Charlie Constable (123k DEF/MID, GCS) had 32 disposals (23 kicks), 11 marks, no tackles and 1.0 for 128AF. Typical performance for Constable, rack them up but no tackles. Can’t see him getting back into the team unless he seriously improves his defensive attributes or an injury occurs.
Thomas Berry (123k FWD, GCS) had 25 disposals (12 kicks), 7 marks, 5 tackles and 0.2 for 103AF. Surely he goes past Rosas and Oea soon, he’s a better player IMO.
James Tsitas (123k MID/FWD, GCS) had 20 disposals (14 kicks), 6 marks, 1 tackle and 5.0 for 105AF.
Ned Moyle (123k RUC, GCS) had 20 disposals (15 kicks), 7 marks, 1 tackle, 25HO and 1.0 for 99 AF.
Chris Burgess (138k DEF/FWD, GCS) had 20 disposals (15 kicks), 7 marks, 4 tackles, 21HO and 5.3 for 144AF.
Oskar Faulkhead (123k MID/FWD, GCS) had 17 disposals (10 kicks), 3 marks, 2 tackles and 2.2 for 72AF.
Wade Derksen (123k FWD, GWS) had 30 disposals (13 kicks), 9 marks, 3 tackles and 12 HO for 119 AF.
Cameron Fleeton (123k DEF, GWS) had 30 disposals (14 kicks), 5 marks and 5 tackles for 107AF.
Josh Fahey (123k DEF/MID, GWS) had 25 disposals (19 kicks), 13 marks, 4 tackles and 1.0 for 118AF. I hope he gets a game soon, has been killing it for weeks.
Harry Rowston (175k MID, GWS) had 16 disposals (8 kicks), 2 marks and 1 tackle for 44AF. Like Wagner, he only makes the list on current relevance. Very disappointing performance for owners.
Cam Mackenzie (245k MID/FWD, HAW) had 30 disposals (18 kicks), 4 marks, 3 tackles and 0.1 for 103AF. Doesn’t fall in the right price bracket but thought I’d add him in. Most have traded him, but for those that held, a senior recall is firmly on the cards.
Ned Long (165k MID, HAW) had 23 disposals (7 kicks), 5 marks and 5 tackles for 80AF. On the bubble if he ever returns. Scores of 67 and 51 in his first 2 games.
Bailey Laurie (123k MID/FWD, MEL) had 20 disposals (7 kicks), 2 marks, 6 tackles and 1.0 for 77AF.
Francis Evans (136k FWD, PTA) had 15 disposals (12 kicks), 5 marks, 2 tackles and 2.2 for 71AF.
Thomas Scully (117k FWD, PTA) had 9 disposals (8 kicks), 5 marks, no tackles and 4.4 for 70AF.
Sam Banks (123k DEF/MID, RIC) had 23 disposals (14 kicks), 7 marks and 2 tackles for 90AF. He has been performing well consistently for a while now, he must be close.
Cody Raak (123k DEF/FWD, WBD) had 21 disposals (15 kicks), 9 marks and 2 tackles for 92AF.

Collingwood, Essendon, North Melbourne, Sandringham (St. Kilda), Brisbane and Sydney all had byes this week.

For those with JVR, Tom McDonald kicked 2.1 from 15 disposals while Ben Brown kicked 1.1 from 11 disposals.
Quoting the reviews I've already done above and in the previous post. From next week onwards I'll quote the previous round's review so you can view all of them nice and easily without having to go and search through the pages.

Good rookie performances in the VFL/WAFL/SANFL:
Andrew McPherson (155k DEF, ADE) had 29 disposals (21 kicks), 12 marks and 3 tackles for 129 AF.
Billy Dowling (117k MID, ADE) had 22 disposals (12 kicks), 8 marks and no tackles for 77 AF.
Deven Robertson (202k MID, BRL) had 31 disposals (12 kicks), 4 marks and 6 tackles for 107 AF. Once again, a standout performance in the 2's. BE of 115 so should drop well into the 100k's and if there is any sign of decent JS, he could be a really good pick.
Kai Lohmann (146k FWD, BRL) had 17 disposals (13 kicks), 5 marks, 8 tackles and 2.0 for 106AF.
Jaxon Binns (117k MID/FWD, CAR) had 24 disposals (16 kicks), 4 marks and no tackles for 71AF. Not as good of a performance as weeks prior, but still a good one nonetheless. Must be close.
Finlay Macrae (123k MID/FWD, COL) had 26 disposals (21 kicks), 2 marks, 11 tackles and 0.1 for 124AF. Surely he gets another crack at some stage?
Jakob Ryan (117k DEF, COL) had 23 disposals (10 kicks), 4 marks and 2 tackles for 76AF.
Arlo Draper (123k DEF, COL) had 21 disposals (9 kicks), 1 mark, 4 tackles and 1.0 for 74AF.
Rhett Montgomerie (102k DEF, ESS) had 24 disposals (14 kicks), 11 marks and 3 tackles for 110AF. I think he gets a game this week, but he'll likely be dropped as soon as Ridley returns from concussion.
Sam Sturt (148k FWD, FRE) had 24 disposals (11 kicks), 7 marks, 3 tackles and 1.3. Really nice performance from Sturt which hopefully sees him back in the senior side this week.
Karl Worner (123k DEF/MID, FRE) had 23 disposals (11 kicks), 3 marks and 1 tackle.
Corey Wagner (117k DEF/MID, FRE) had 18 disposals (12 kicks), 5 marks, 1 tackle and 1.0. Solid outing, better than Wilson too.
James Willis (123k MID/FWD, GEE) had 21 disposals (19 kicks), 2 marks, 5 tackles and 3.0 for 100AF.
Charlie Constable (123k DEF/MID, GCS) had 31 disposals (18 kicks), 5 marks, 5 tackles and 0.1 for 110AF. 5 tackles for Constable! Good to see. Hopefully he can force his way back into the team just before the byes.
Ned Moyle (123k RUC, GCS) had 19 disposals (14 kicks), 6 marks, 2 tackles and 42 HO for 118AF.
Chris Burgess (138k DEF/FWD, GCS) had 14 disposals (11 kicks), 6 marks, 1 tackle, 8 HO and 3.2 for 87AF.
Brodie McLaughlin (102k FWD, GCS) had 16 disposals (10 kicks), 4 marks, 1 tackle and 3.1 for 77AF.
Cameron Fleeton (123k DEF, GWS) had 31 disposals (14 kicks), 10 marks and 1 tackle for 106AF. 23, 30 and now 31 touches in his last few games. he along with Fahey must be close.
Josh Fahey (123K DEF/MID, GWS) had 23 disposals (14 kicks), 5 marks, no tackles and 1.0 for 78AF. Another solid performance.
Max Gruzewski (117k DEF, GWS) had 12 disposals (10 kicks), 10 marks, 2 tackles and 3.2 for 93AF. Great game from him. Is there a sneaky chance he replaces an underperforming Cadman soon?
Max Ramsden (123k RUC/FWD, HAW) had 22 disposals (10 kicks), 5 marks, 1 tackle, 35 HO and 2.2 for 128AF. Ramsden in and Fergus Greene out this week? Decent chance I think.
Ned Long (165k MID, HAW) had 21 disposals (12 kicks), 7 marks, 4 tackles and 0.2 for 88AF.
Bailey Laurie (123K MID/FWD, MEL) had 25 disposals (13 kicks), 3 marks, 1 tackle and 1.1 for 83AF.
Taj Woewodin (123k MID/FWD, MEL) had 24 disposals (13 kicks), 5 marks and 4 tackles for 81AF.
Blake Howes (123k MID/FWD, MEL) had 24 disposals (14 kicks), 7 marks and 2 tackles for 92AF.
Eddie Ford (123k FWD, NTH) had 23 disposals (8 kicks), 3 marks, 1 tackle and 3.0 for 87AF. He is one who should get games at some point this year. He is also putting lots of pressure on Drury to perform well at AFL level.
Cooper Harvey (117K MID/FWD, NTH) had 17 disposals (10 kicks), 5 marks, 1 tackle and 4.1 for 89AF.
Hugh Jackson (123K MID/FWD, PTA) had 23 disposals (15 kicks), 2 marks, 10 tackles and 0.1 for 101AF.
Will Gould (123K DEF, SYD) had 20 disposals (18 kicks), 9 marks and 4 tackles for 95AF.
Corey Warner (123k MID/FWD, SYD) had 19 disposals (9 kicks), 3 marks, 3 tackles and 1.0 for 74AF.
Toby McLean (175k MID/FWD) had 25 disposals (8 kicks), 4 marks, 2 tackles and 0.1 for 78AF.

Richmond had a bye this week.
 
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Is the 50k saving on gulden vs Sinclair worth it. I'm not chasing guldens points from last week. But bar the Geelong game (where they all stunk) just 2 scores in the 80s. Rest 100. Sinclair seems to stall at 100. With many guys (myself included) happy to trade suspect rookies for a 40k/50k hit makes me think this 50k saving may be worth it. Walsh is still a great mid to have in mids and open a link.
 
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Is the 50k saving on gulden vs Sinclair worth it. I'm not chasing guldens points from last week. But bar the Geelong game (where they all stunk) just 2 scores in the 80s. Rest 100. Sinclair seems to stall at 100. With many guys (myself included) happy to trade suspect rookies for a 40k/50k hit makes me think this 50k saving may be worth it. Walsh is still a great mid to have in mids and open a link.
Gulden isn't inspiring me as an owner... if I got a free trade of him out for Sinclair I'd do it, so I'd lean that way here. I just love that consistency.
 
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Sad not even seeing Constable as an emergency
The sooner we all accept his sole purpose is as a useful floating donut, the better.
Not all bad news, constable has been shifted to mids in the reserve aide to give him more of a chance to get back into AFL team. Fiorini doing well, less of a line up to get into mods than def if there is an injury.
 
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Just looking on Footywire at Total Price changes so far , Ben King sitting 7th with a $ 185,800.00 gain.

3 x 100's in his last 4 games

Currently

King + $ 185,800.00
Ratugolea + $ 166,100.00
Allen + $ 162,700.00
Daniels + $ 145,800.00
Pedlar + $ 119,100.00

+ $ 66,700.00 for Bruce before getting injured

On the other side the one we were all expecting big things from Toby McLean has dropped $ 3,000.00 on his starting price
 
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Now here's a rookie to get more excited about, not sure how long he will need to get up to full fitness though..... Round 15 debut after Bombers rd 14 bye would fit perfectly

Scott also flagged 2022 Draft pick five Elijah Tsatas (AF $292k SC $189k MID) was on the comeback trail. Scott said: “Tsatas had a really good surgical review so he’ll join in full training today.”

View: https://twitter.com/HoneyballAFL/status/1658697538558636032?s=20
 
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Now here's a rookie to get more excited about, not sure how long he will need to get up to full fitness though..... Round 15 debut after Bombers rd 14 bye would fit perfectly

Scott also flagged 2022 Draft pick five Elijah Tsatas (AF $292k SC $189k MID) was on the comeback trail. Scott said: “Tsatas had a really good surgical review so he’ll join in full training today.”

View: https://twitter.com/HoneyballAFL/status/1658697538558636032?s=20
I would be more exited if he was about 70K cheaper tbh 😜😂

189K for a rookie around the mid season point is a bit steep unless he looks exceptional.
 
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