Discussion 2021 Round 7: Teams & In Game Discussion

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Amazing how in 2017 the umpires in Sydney paid a mark to Gary Rohan in the dying seconds to beat Essendon, however when the shoes on the other foot like with Geelong last night its “Play On!” What the actual F!
Even after that in the last seconds a Sydney player took possession and sat on the ball - holding the ball every day of the week.

Speaking of umpires - we’ve got Ray Chamberlain today. 💩
 
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Gawn as C needs to save me. Ryan donut this week really hurt along with dusty out. Looking forward to next round where I will hopefully be able to bring in 2 decent players for my rookies.
 
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Going back to the dawn of time (aka start of Aussie rules) it’s safe to say every club has tales of awful umpiring costing games. Particularly in the last minute. My 2 cents though is this is what happens when umpiring isn’t a full time profession - hard to have genuine accountability when the umpires have other jobs/priorities they’ll just focus on if it gets too hard. I think this is part of the reason the AFL shields them so much as well.. they’re worried that the part time brigade will just give it up. And as much as they drive supporters crazy, no umpires = no football.

Until the AFL creates a genuine umpiring role that is full time, paid well, and devotes time to training (positioning, interpretations, etc) then this is just what it’ll be.

All we can hope is when it’s all tallied up at the end of the day, it largely evens out..
 
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Going back to the dawn of time (aka start of Aussie rules) it’s safe to say every club has tales of awful umpiring costing games. Particularly in the last minute. My 2 cents though is this is what happens when umpiring isn’t a full time profession - hard to have genuine accountability when the umpires have other jobs/priorities they’ll just focus on if it gets too hard. I think this is part of the reason the AFL shields them so much as well.. they’re worried that the part time brigade will just give it up. And as much as they drive supporters crazy, no umpires = no football.

Until the AFL creates a genuine umpiring role that is full time, paid well, and devotes time to training (positioning, interpretations, etc) then this is just what it’ll be.

All we can hope is when it’s all tallied up at the end of the day, it largely evens out..
The AFL also hides behind umpires after changing rules so much and so often that - outside the howlers - the adjudication of the game is a huge grey area, or deadset confusion. A lot of the time it’s not the umpires that are being criticized, or even really at fault, but it’s an easy act of political misdirection to say “don’t criticize umpiring”. The AFL is complete disingenuous on this and many other issues. As I said earlier this week, they’ve created the problem FOR the umpires and FOR the game with endless band aid upon band aid fixes to things that weren’t really problems in the first place.
 
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Going back to the dawn of time (aka start of Aussie rules) it’s safe to say every club has tales of awful umpiring costing games. Particularly in the last minute. My 2 cents though is this is what happens when umpiring isn’t a full time profession - hard to have genuine accountability when the umpires have other jobs/priorities they’ll just focus on if it gets too hard. I think this is part of the reason the AFL shields them so much as well.. they’re worried that the part time brigade will just give it up. And as much as they drive supporters crazy, no umpires = no football.

Until the AFL creates a genuine umpiring role that is full time, paid well, and devotes time to training (positioning, interpretations, etc) then this is just what it’ll be.

All we can hope is when it’s all tallied up at the end of the day, it largely evens out..
I'm absolutely blown away that after all this time with all the money put into the game the umpires still aren't full time. NRL referees have a minimum wage of six figures! It's one thing they've absolutely gotten right that the AFL hasn't.
 
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I'm absolutely blown away that after all this time with all the money put into the game the umpires still aren't full time. NRL referees have a minimum wage of six figures! It's one thing they've absolutely gotten right that the AFL hasn't.
And how much easier is it to umpire NRL? Straight forward game compared to AFL.
 

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Traded Ryan in for Danger last round to avoid a DEF donut and now he has a calf issue, Kosi did a commendable job as his replacement.

Outside the opening round, I've had to carry 1 or 2 premiums on my bench every round so far.

Benches are starting to become non-existence as we approach the MBRs, I have a feeling it's not going to be pretty, even under a Best 18 scenario.
 
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14/1,314 - Grundy

Traded Ryan in for Danger last round to avoid a DEF donut and now he has a calf issue, Kosi did a commendable job as his replacement.

Outside the opening round, I've had to carry 1 or 2 premiums on my bench every round so far.

Benches are starting to become non-existence as we approach the MBRs, I have a feeling it's not going to be pretty, even under a Best 18 scenario.
I know. I start to accrue a little cash to upgrade, then have to spend it on injuries or to replace dud rookies. I'm trying to do my trade/bye plans and have no idea how to approach them.

13/1158 - to come: Ziebell, Oliver, Powell, Jordon, Ridley, Merrett, Cripps, A Boss, and new recruit and Captain Gawn.

Went with my gut and passed on Facrae and Farrar, which seems to have been an ok move, esp. re Macrae. All my 10 leagues are associated with SCS, and none of them are easy. Think I'll just fall the wrong side of the ledger in most of them this week.
 
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Get rid of prior opportunity and pay incorrect disposal/holding the ball.

That would break up the congestion around the ball.
Will start looking a lot more like soccer then, why try to take possession in a tightly contested situation when you know you'll get called for holding? They'll just end up trying to boot the ball forward off the ground.
 
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Possibly belongs in the rant thread, but umpires really need to be taught exactly how far 15 metres is. They make a lot of mistakes on this with both kick to marks and the distances players run before bouncing. I know it's a very tough job, but the kicking one in particular is very inconsistent, the running too far just rarely gets paid.
Definitely belongs in the rant thread haha
 
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You conveniently don’t discuss the free to Close that nearly handed Geelong the game..

as for the HTB non call against Hickey - that rule changed years ago allowing the ruckman to grab the ball out of the ruck and not count as prior opportunity - I didn’t actually think it was the wrong call at the time - 50/50 at best
Whatever
 
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