Position 2021: Ruck Discussion
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It didn't get wet until a quarter into the 4th quarter and they'd already put the points on the board at that point. I think it was more a case of both rucks were so bad that they ended up just taking it out of the ruck a lot when the other ruck completely whiffed on the contest and/or thumping it long for HOtA stats.
Was a weird game watching their ratios while not thinking they played remotely well.
The rucks resting forward scoring better is the truly confusing outcome right now.
Was a weird game watching their ratios while not thinking they played remotely well.
The rucks resting forward scoring better is the truly confusing outcome right now.
I went with gawn, flynn, hunter. So far its okay, I'm not prepared to say that's a win yet. Time will tell in around 5 or so weeks. Honestly I'm now trying to make up my mind on who to field, hunter or flynn. Missed gulden as i chose to field powell and had the E on scott which is a bitter pill to swallow seeing a 117k priced player score 139 on the pine
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There is potentially a truckload of cash to be saved by trading one or both of Gawn and Grundy ahead of their big price drops in round 3.
Down to a rookie (Hunter/Meek/Fullarton) or even to a midpricer (i.e. Draper).
If you were to get rid of both, that's at least 2 trades, without factoring in that we will likely want them back which is at least another 3 - 5 trades.
It's a season-defining decision, no doubt. Do we cop the likely huge cash loss and keep the set and forget strategy? Or do we redistribute the cash into point-scoring power but blow 2 - 7 trades in the process?
Down to a rookie (Hunter/Meek/Fullarton) or even to a midpricer (i.e. Draper).
If you were to get rid of both, that's at least 2 trades, without factoring in that we will likely want them back which is at least another 3 - 5 trades.
It's a season-defining decision, no doubt. Do we cop the likely huge cash loss and keep the set and forget strategy? Or do we redistribute the cash into point-scoring power but blow 2 - 7 trades in the process?
I don't have Grawndy, if you trade them out while they still have value then you might get the rookies on the bubble and points scored in other possies and at 150k/trade it could be worthwhile, but as you said you probably want them back in again which costs more trades (150k@)
If you don't trade them out then there might be an opportunity lost, but by keeping them you are not locking in a cash loss because you already have them.
Hope that makes sense
If you don't trade them out then there might be an opportunity lost, but by keeping them you are not locking in a cash loss because you already have them.
Hope that makes sense
I have Gawn as well. I see a lot of coaches thinking of trading Gawn out and using the cash elsewhere. For mine it is worth taking a look at Gawn's previous record. Since the start of the 2018 season he has not gone sub 100 and not hit a ton the week after. His record at Docklands in his past 6 games is, well, phenomenal. His record against St K is also good in recent seasons although this might not be the St K of old. Maybe the game style has changed this season but I would be giving him at least another shot at it. If he struggles again then maybe reassess but if the end of the world is coming for rucks how is it that Big O scored 109, Hickey 123, Goldy 109 and Flynn 140? And none of them are supposed to be in the same league as Gawndy.
Let's add the Sunday Rucks
Flynn 140
Goldstein 109
Lycett 94
Naitanui 86
Witts 75
Ladhams 45
Hunter 44
Vardy 34
And I forgot Jenkins 43
Be interesting to see Round 2 scores , personally think Gawn & Grundy owners have a lot easier decision to make (every option available) to those Hunter/Meek owners (myself included) if they need to be fixed ASAP.
Hard to see a clear challenger to R1 & R2 after one game.
Trading Danger to a rookie gives $$$ to play with but if you wish to keep the same structure , you probably need to trade him to a premium.
Bring on Round 2 ruck scores.
Flynn 140
Goldstein 109
Lycett 94
Naitanui 86
Witts 75
Ladhams 45
Hunter 44
Vardy 34
And I forgot Jenkins 43
Be interesting to see Round 2 scores , personally think Gawn & Grundy owners have a lot easier decision to make (every option available) to those Hunter/Meek owners (myself included) if they need to be fixed ASAP.
Hard to see a clear challenger to R1 & R2 after one game.
Trading Danger to a rookie gives $$$ to play with but if you wish to keep the same structure , you probably need to trade him to a premium.
Bring on Round 2 ruck scores.
In 2019 Gawndy cost $1.4m to start.
R1 - Grundy 81, Gawn 87
Post R2
Grundy 137, 132, 160, 100, 134
Gawn 116. 126, 113, 126, 145
By R11 Grundy was $656k, Gawn was $647k. That was about Grundy’s low price point up to then, Gawn’s low point to then was $640k
There may not be “truckloads” of cash lost.
R1 - Grundy 81, Gawn 87
Post R2
Grundy 137, 132, 160, 100, 134
Gawn 116. 126, 113, 126, 145
By R11 Grundy was $656k, Gawn was $647k. That was about Grundy’s low price point up to then, Gawn’s low point to then was $640k
There may not be “truckloads” of cash lost.
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This is why getting Merret would be good
But yeah all the stars are slowly dropping, injury-prone or a few years off being all-stars, very scary for me as both a Supercoach and as a Pies supporter
But yeah all the stars are slowly dropping, injury-prone or a few years off being all-stars, very scary for me as both a Supercoach and as a Pies supporter
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