Discussion 2022: Rate My Team

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The third iteration of my lineup.

I feel this version is a fair bit more balanced than the others. Starting with the backline, I've swapped out Crisp, Whitfield & Sinn for Hall, Hewett & Coleman. Hall's last half of 2021 is ignorable (he's undervalued) whereas I felt Crisp is probably priced to his maximum at present. Whitfield changes place with Hewett (who should be more durable) and I'm hoping that Hewett's role at Carlton is SC conducive like the way he finished off 2021 too with the Swans. Having Coleman at D5 gives me comfort as he can easily be swapped into a forward role if the defender rookies present themselves and forward rooks don't show. I must admit I didn't see too much of his end to last year & that I'm going off the guidance of others around here.

The midfield hasn't changed too much, although Mitchell Walsh & Dunks have been swapped out for Miller, Tracc & Brayshaw. I've also added Jye Caldwell to M6 as I feel that if he can get an injury uninterrupted run he presents great value at 266k. In saying this, if another gun rookie mid I've left out stamps themselves during the preseason matches then he's an easy downgrade & frees up some more cash. Tracc & Brayshaw both feel like value for me as I see them improving on last year's averages although I don't think either are topliners in terms of season's best mids. The only injury risk on this line is Caldwell I feel. Neale I'm trusting to be good to go by Round 1 after last year's debacle.

Now to the forwards. English, De Goey & Gresham make way for Heeney, Butters & Willie Rioli. Rather than relying on English as ruck coverage, I'll have to see how Marshall goes at earning a DPP to cover both Darcy & McInerny. Butters replaces Gresham as the injury risk along the forward line and I think that Willie Rioli is a forgotten gem along the east coast. West Coast is mooted to be introducing a game plan that moves the ball faster forward & I think that he'll be a great beneficiary of the change. I've no concerns over his fitness & body as he's a naturally fit human and come back looking in good nick. There's a stat somewhere that he covered the second most k's of any Eagle in their GF win. In any sense, I think he's worth considering. I'm betting on Heeney, Butters & Conigs (if he lasts, or any of em for that matter) filling in F4, F5 & F6 come season's end.

Realistically, this side needs 10 players upgraded (3-3-1-3) although the midpriced players I'm banking on needing upgrading are Hewett, Coleman, Caldwell, McInerny & Rioli. All should score well enough in the interim. There's not much money left over to upgrade to better rookies so that may pinch come Round 1, but I feel the balance of what I have here is pretty good. Going light in the forward line gives me the chance to have a look at which players may get a change of position and be worth pursuing up forward.

I guess this is a very midpriced team as there are only 5 rookies starting on the field. I like it & think it'll stack up.
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Version 4.

Most noticeably this team shifts to an even more mid priced lineup by culling McInerny and substituting him for Luke Jackson & downgrading Brayshaw to Duncan & swapping him forward. The money saved there has allowed me to:

  • Upgrade Gould to Kemp (who looks like potentially being a Rd 1 starter) & shift Perez to the pine.
  • Upgrade two standard rookies to Horne-Francis & Ward, pushing Hobbs to the bench. The 4 premo midfield seems ever fashionable at present. More on the midfield later in my final thoughts.
  • Moving Duncan forward shifts a rookie off the field, leaving Comben at F6 and a decent chance at game time this season.
  • Upgrade J.Williams to Hayes, who himself looks like getting an opportunity this season with Port's ruck position more open than previous seasons.
Final thoughts.

The main premise of this side's structure is to get those crappy rookie scores off the park as early as possible. There are still plenty of rookies on the field, but I only want the best of the best on the park & bench.

Luke Jackson clearly won't be a top ruck this season and probably won't even be a Top 10 forward with the DPP changes after 6 or so rounds but he adds some flexibility to the team. If Hayes looks like playing and scoring better than Comben then Jackson gets moved forward & Comben to the ruck bench. Hopefully the lost points for when Jackson is in the ruck are made up across the rest of the ground with the better rooks providing better scores.

The restructure means JHF & Ward come into the mids, although Caldwell slides up to M5 in the process. I don't think I can spruik Caldwell enough than what I currently have. Essendon clearly want him as their #1 inside mid and at 266k he's worth a risk. The risk is obviously his body holding up, which it never has from u/18's to now. Shiel picked up a quad or groin injury at training yesterday & Stringer has been restricted for a short while now. I think he'll get a decent run in the guts to start the season. Ward is in a fair few Hawks fan's Rd 1 sides and should score well off a wing if he plays there. JHF has been discussed ad nauseam & has to come in.

I'm not sold on Butters & he could change to Tarryn Thomas (although I'd need to find a few more dollars as the well is dry). Butters' durability is a sticking point seeing as I'm also running Duncan, Heeney, Conigs & Rioli up forward. There's a fair few players who I haven't heard match sim reports of so I'm flying blind a little as to how well they're all going. Will need to scour the internet over the next few weeks to reassure me the plan I've cobbled together is solid.

All in all, this side will need 10 upgrades without nailing a midpriced flier, although I'm hoping Hewett, Kiddy or Jackson could score well enough to fill D6 or F6 respectively by season's end.
 
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Time to throw up another draft, this time leaning into the heavy midfield rookie options...

I've spent heavy in the rookies and would ideally like to work in another premium somewhere, Butters probably the name calling me strongest.

I have to be honest, I was surprised by how much I actually liked this draft, I love the midfield premium group but perhaps because of that I'm finding it really hard to pick my favourite 4 or so if I go heavy mids. The rookies look strong there. Ideally I'd rather another mid or forward premium if the back rookies will allow it but I'm not optimistic right now. If Hinge, Kemp and O'Driscoll, for example, were to all look strong and playable on-field, I think I'd go that path very quickly.

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Backs

Lloyd - Haven't really waivered here, perhaps the guy I could punt for a value pick if it comes up.
Hall - He's pretty locked if he survives the preseason and looks good, genuinely underpriced on last season.
Short - He's the safe play here, I think he's got the strongest 95+ floor in this price range and can certainly buy some upside. Lot of names floating through this spot though.
Sicily - Part of the structure, I'll be honest, I think I'd rather some of the forward options here but this is almost a defensive pick. Really want to see 110+ average with all the others playing in preseason games though as I have huge doubts here.
Milera - Premium rookie in my eyes, needs a flawless preseason run, to score well and look good doing it, I'd much rather get a rookie here.
Coleman - Some slight concerns creeping in but love him as a prospect down back. DPP has genuine value this year with covid looming.

Rooks - They're just names, I've made no effort to pick anyone in particular at this point so don't read anything into these!

Mids

Macrae - If downsizing the mid premium count I think you need to make sure that you've got a lock and load pick at the top. Macrae is the safest pick.
Petracca - I think if I'm going 3 premiums I'd like to de-risk this but he's where it fell for now.
Neale - Locked until I have reason not to.
Berry - Will watch like a hawk in preseason, like Milera, it really needs to be flawless. Slightest concern and he'd be gone given his history.
Rookies - Plenty of cash here, a bit more of the common names but almost by accident as I was just plonking in price ranges. Would like to spend a bit less ideally but need significant cuts to get more premiums so will pay for JS and scoring potential.

Rucks

Darcy - Looks really fit, has the highest upside this year, imo. Meek worries me given how good he should be but if he's not there round 1 that would be the last box to tick.
Grundy - I still don't love it but I feel Gawn is definitely overpriced and NicNat is hard to trust.
Preuss - Will pay the premium if he's there and playing. Would need something special to move him to R2.

Forwards

Duncan - I think he's the safest pick right now, although I wait for Dunkley to demand selection on pure upside once again. I really like the forwards and have another half dozen options here.
Thomas - Has become my boy at this point. He's at that "would have to play his way out of my team" approach to being locked in.
Heeney - Lot more water to go under this bridge, such is my lack of faith in his body, but until there is the inevitable hiccup, he's too cheap with too much upside to ignore.
Coniglio - Locked until I have a convincing reason not to.
Curnow - Ditto.
Rooks - As with other positions, Rachele looks a prospect but he was just there to bring me towards a 140k average for the position rather thana statement :)
 
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We also have Daicos and there will probably be another 1 or 2 rookies that will almost certainly get DEF status come round 7. They hate changing the genuine premiums but they love to gift the DPP to rookies and fallen midfield premiums based on AFLF history.

Basically think of it as a mechanism to help correct mistakes and keep people interested longer and you'll understand how they do things better than applying logic or statistics ever can.
Yeah reports from Pies pre season, trying to get into Pendles and Daics hands on way out of defence
 
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Time to throw up another draft, this time leaning into the heavy midfield rookie options...

I've spent heavy in the rookies and would ideally like to work in another premium somewhere, Butters probably the name calling me strongest.

I have to be honest, I was surprised by how much I actually liked this draft, I love the midfield premium group but perhaps because of that I'm finding it really hard to pick my favourite 4 or so if I go heavy mids. The rookies look strong there. Ideally I'd rather another mid or forward premium if the back rookies will allow it but I'm not optimistic right now. If Hinge, Kemp and O'Driscoll, for example, were to all look strong and playable on-field, I think I'd go that path very quickly.

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Backs

Lloyd - Haven't really waivered here, perhaps the guy I could punt for a value pick if it comes up.
Hall - He's pretty locked if he survives the preseason and looks good, genuinely underpriced on last season.
Short - He's the safe play here, I think he's got the strongest 95+ floor in this price range and can certainly buy some upside. Lot of names floating through this spot though.
Sicily - Part of the structure, I'll be honest, I think I'd rather some of the forward options here but this is almost a defensive pick. Really want to see 110+ average with all the others playing in preseason games though as I have huge doubts here.
Milera - Premium rookie in my eyes, needs a flawless preseason run, to score well and look good doing it, I'd much rather get a rookie here.
Coleman - Some slight concerns creeping in but love him as a prospect down back. DPP has genuine value this year with covid looming.

Rooks - They're just names, I've made no effort to pick anyone in particular at this point so don't read anything into these!

Mids

Macrae - If downsizing the mid premium count I think you need to make sure that you've got a lock and load pick at the top. Macrae is the safest pick.
Petracca - I think if I'm going 3 premiums I'd like to de-risk this but he's where it fell for now.
Neale - Locked until I have reason not to.
Berry - Will watch like a hawk in preseason, like Milera, it really needs to be flawless. Slightest concern and he'd be gone given his history.
Rookies - Plenty of cash here, a bit more of the common names but almost by accident as I was just plonking in price ranges. Would like to spend a bit less ideally but need significant cuts to get more premiums so will pay for JS and scoring potential.

Rucks

Darcy - Looks really fit, has the highest upside this year, imo. Meek worries me given how good he should be but if he's not there round 1 that would be the last box to tick.
Grundy - I still don't love it but I feel Gawn is definitely overpriced and NicNat is hard to trust.
Preuss - Will pay the premium if he's there and playing. Would need something special to move him to R2.

Forwards

Duncan - I think he's the safest pick right now, although I wait for Dunkley to demand selection on pure upside once again. I really like the forwards and have another half dozen options here.
Thomas - Has become my boy at this point. He's at that "would have to play his way out of my team" approach to being locked in.
Heeney - Lot more water to go under this bridge, such is my lack of faith in his body, but until there is the inevitable hiccup, he's too cheap with too much upside to ignore.
Coniglio - Locked until I have a convincing reason not to.
Curnow - Ditto.
Rooks - As with other positions, Rachele looks a prospect but he was just there to bring me towards a 140k average for the position rather thana statement :)
Care to explain where the safety of Duncan comes from?

Body appears to be breaking down in the last 2 seasons, has uncertain role, surely if you want a high risk pick you take Treloar?
 
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Care to explain where the safety of Duncan comes from?

Body appears to be breaking down in the last 2 seasons, has uncertain role, surely if you want a high risk pick you take Treloar?
He's played every role under the sun and he scores 100+ in it, wing, half back, mid, half forward doesn't matter, he still scores 100. He's their best kick, they want him with the ball.

Do have concerns on the body after last year but he had missed 4 games combined in the prior 5 seasons, that's pretty damn good. He's basically played 21+ games. Injury last year wasn't an old age type injury as well which does help the cause.

Also underpriced for mine.

Basically if I had to back one guy to score 100+ and play 20+ out of all the forwards it would be him every single time. The only other guy who is comparable for mine is Dusty and his injury was pretty significant and I really need to see how he has recovered in preseason before I'd hitch to that wagon, especially given his notoriously poor starts to seasons.

Dunkley has much worse durability and much bigger role concerns because he flat out doesn't score well in the role that certainly could be his role this year. Does have a higher ceiling in the right role but the durability for him is a big red flag now rather than the reason he is cheaper than his best. Taranto has massive role problems heading into the season and every other forward entering this season is hoping to hit the level Duncan has spent the best part of 8 years at rather than any demonstrated ability to actually do it. Treloar the other but his durability is much worse and soft tissue based and his role concerns are the same as Dunkley.

That's not to say I don't like any of the guys, just that, for mine, Duncan is clear safest pick at this point in time.
 
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Time to throw up another draft, this time leaning into the heavy midfield rookie options...

I've spent heavy in the rookies and would ideally like to work in another premium somewhere, Butters probably the name calling me strongest.

I have to be honest, I was surprised by how much I actually liked this draft, I love the midfield premium group but perhaps because of that I'm finding it really hard to pick my favourite 4 or so if I go heavy mids. The rookies look strong there. Ideally I'd rather another mid or forward premium if the back rookies will allow it but I'm not optimistic right now. If Hinge, Kemp and O'Driscoll, for example, were to all look strong and playable on-field, I think I'd go that path very quickly.

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Backs

Lloyd - Haven't really waivered here, perhaps the guy I could punt for a value pick if it comes up.
Hall - He's pretty locked if he survives the preseason and looks good, genuinely underpriced on last season.
Short - He's the safe play here, I think he's got the strongest 95+ floor in this price range and can certainly buy some upside. Lot of names floating through this spot though.
Sicily - Part of the structure, I'll be honest, I think I'd rather some of the forward options here but this is almost a defensive pick. Really want to see 110+ average with all the others playing in preseason games though as I have huge doubts here.
Milera - Premium rookie in my eyes, needs a flawless preseason run, to score well and look good doing it, I'd much rather get a rookie here.
Coleman - Some slight concerns creeping in but love him as a prospect down back. DPP has genuine value this year with covid looming.

Rooks - They're just names, I've made no effort to pick anyone in particular at this point so don't read anything into these!

Mids

Macrae - If downsizing the mid premium count I think you need to make sure that you've got a lock and load pick at the top. Macrae is the safest pick.
Petracca - I think if I'm going 3 premiums I'd like to de-risk this but he's where it fell for now.
Neale - Locked until I have reason not to.
Berry - Will watch like a hawk in preseason, like Milera, it really needs to be flawless. Slightest concern and he'd be gone given his history.
Rookies - Plenty of cash here, a bit more of the common names but almost by accident as I was just plonking in price ranges. Would like to spend a bit less ideally but need significant cuts to get more premiums so will pay for JS and scoring potential.

Rucks

Darcy - Looks really fit, has the highest upside this year, imo. Meek worries me given how good he should be but if he's not there round 1 that would be the last box to tick.
Grundy - I still don't love it but I feel Gawn is definitely overpriced and NicNat is hard to trust.
Preuss - Will pay the premium if he's there and playing. Would need something special to move him to R2.

Forwards

Duncan - I think he's the safest pick right now, although I wait for Dunkley to demand selection on pure upside once again. I really like the forwards and have another half dozen options here.
Thomas - Has become my boy at this point. He's at that "would have to play his way out of my team" approach to being locked in.
Heeney - Lot more water to go under this bridge, such is my lack of faith in his body, but until there is the inevitable hiccup, he's too cheap with too much upside to ignore.
Coniglio - Locked until I have a convincing reason not to.
Curnow - Ditto.
Rooks - As with other positions, Rachele looks a prospect but he was just there to bring me towards a 140k average for the position rather thana statement :)
Like the team I’m running the same structure. Agreed with the rookies I really like the draft and I’m sure will look back in 2-4 year and it will be a super draft a lot of guns
 
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He's played every role under the sun and he scores 100+ in it, wing, half back, mid, half forward doesn't matter, he still scores 100. He's their best kick, they want him with the ball.

Do have concerns on the body after last year but he had missed 4 games combined in the prior 5 seasons, that's pretty damn good. He's basically played 21+ games. Injury last year wasn't an old age type injury as well which does help the cause.

Also underpriced for mine.

Basically if I had to back one guy to score 100+ and play 20+ out of all the forwards it would be him every single time. The only other guy who is comparable for mine is Dusty and his injury was pretty significant and I really need to see how he has recovered in preseason before I'd hitch to that wagon, especially given his notoriously poor starts to seasons.

Dunkley has much worse durability and much bigger role concerns because he flat out doesn't score well in the role that certainly could be his role this year. Does have a higher ceiling in the right role but the durability for him is a big red flag now rather than the reason he is cheaper than his best. Taranto has massive role problems heading into the season and every other forward entering this season is hoping to hit the level Duncan has spent the best part of 8 years at rather than any demonstrated ability to actually do it. Treloar the other but his durability is much worse and soft tissue based and his role concerns are the same as Dunkley.

That's not to say I don't like any of the guys, just that, for mine, Duncan is clear safest pick at this point in time.
Ok that makes some sense.

Although can you point me to a season where Duncan averaged 100+ playing mostly as a half forward? Because that's where I see him playing this year.

Also my view is that significant non-recurring injuries can be somewhat written off, but Duncan has gotten injured on 5 different occasions in the last 2 years. If that doesn't suggest some kind of trend I don't know what does.
 
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Do i grab Neale in Mid or Pay up for an extra prem up forward or down back?

Currently have
Sicily, Lloyd, and any of Stewart/Short/Ryan/Ridley/Hall(yet to be determined) down back

And Dusty and Butters up forward
 

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Do i grab Neale in Mid or Pay up for an extra prem up forward or down back?

Currently have
Sicily, Lloyd, and any of Stewart/Short/Ryan/Ridley/Hall(yet to be determined) down back

And Dusty and Butters up forward
I think most people are largely doing both, but I suspect you may have more mid premiums than they do if you include Neale. The rookies seem to be pointing to a lighter midfield for premiums, with more up front and down back.
 
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My team continues to morph with the greatest exposure obviously within the ruck line. I really don't like it but I do like the minimal exposure I have on the remaining lines. not having Macrae makes me nervous but he does chew up a lot of cash. I'd also prefer to have Duncan in my team but struggling again to hold that structure with the additional cost.

I really don't know what to do with the ruck line. I'm not keen on starting Gawn or Darcy, would rather watch, wouold like to get Jackson in there also but not having heard much about the Deemons pre-season and set-up has me cautious.

Still a work in progress.


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Well that's **** news for Walsh, syndesmosis is a difficult one to come back from.

I'll have to rejig the team a bit, so I'll drop him down to Caldwell, was looking at Rowell but given that neither will be keepers I'll go with Caldwell as he's more likely to have that 25-30 pt upside which is my cutoff for midpricers, the 75k saving allows me to lift Jelly to Steele/Touk and the extra cash will go to lifting Reeves to Grundy.

Feels a bit less risky even though I'll still be running with 7 MP's and only 4 rookies on the field with Minge at D6, Caldwell at M5, Witts R2 (Preuss R3) and Curnow F6.
 
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My team continues to morph with the greatest exposure obviously within the ruck line. I really don't like it but I do like the minimal exposure I have on the remaining lines. not having Macrae makes me nervous but he does chew up a lot of cash. I'd also prefer to have Duncan in my team but struggling again to hold that structure with the additional cost.

I really don't know what to do with the ruck line. I'm not keen on starting Gawn or Darcy, would rather watch, wouold like to get Jackson in there also but not having heard much about the Deemons pre-season and set-up has me cautious.

Still a work in progress.


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Eerily similar in structure to my team, although I've gone with a couple more MP's in Def as I'm a bit suss on Sicily, Dawson and Ridley, I think gives me a bit more flexibility by being able to identify which ones to jump on. The extra cash has gone to a MP in the mids, moving Preuss to R3 and Witts into R2
 

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Well that's **** news for Walsh, syndesmosis is a difficult one to come back from.

I'll have to rejig the team a bit, so I'll drop him down to Caldwell, was looking at Rowell but given that neither will be keepers I'll go with Caldwell as he's more likely to have that 25-30 pt upside which is my cutoff for midpricers, the 75k saving allows me to lift Jelly to Steele/Touk and the extra cash will go to lifting Reeves to Grundy.

Feels a bit less risky even though I'll still be running with 7 MP's and only 4 rookies on the field with Minge at D6, Caldwell at M5, Witts R2 (Preuss R3) and Curnow F6.
When would you be looking to cut Caldwell? My issue with him over Rowell is if I get stuck with him until his R12 bye I can only upgrade him to a premium who will still have a bye. At least if that happens with Rowell he could be upgraded to a premium who has already had a bye in R12. Hopefully they are quick upgrades and it doesn’t matter but it never seems to work that way for me!
 
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When would you be looking to cut Caldwell? My issue with him over Rowell is if I get stuck with him until his R12 bye I can only upgrade him to a premium who will still have a bye. At least if that happens with Rowell he could be upgraded to a premium who has already had a bye in R12. Hopefully they are quick upgrades and it doesn’t matter but it never seems to work that way for me!
It's not something I've looked at yet, but I will.

It's left me with 4 upgrades in the mids and I'm going to have to be careful on who I bring in. I think my 1st upgrades would be cashing out MP's Fwd and Def and moving JHF and Daicos into those possies until their rnd 14 byes.

TBH I think that the rnd 12 bye is the easiest to negotiate, I can currently field 22 with only 2 premos missing so Caldwell could well wait until the end of the byes or I could upgrade him to a round 12 premo without much effect on my rnd 12 team.

But it's a very dynamic thing with lots of moving parts.

*Edit....I'm yet to get my head around the boost trades, could be a game changer over the byes with the potential to have 4 trades in each of the 3 rounds.
 
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*Edit....I'm yet to get my head around the boost trades, could be a game changer over the byes with a potential to have 4 trades in each of the 3 rounds.

For mine it is not the number of trades you have in the bye rds it will be will you have enough cash to make the trades you want. To do 12 trades in 3 rds would require an enormous amount of cash if you are doing genuine upgrades. if half of those trades are sideways to avoid donuts that might be a different scenario.
 

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My team continues to morph with the greatest exposure obviously within the ruck line. I really don't like it but I do like the minimal exposure I have on the remaining lines. not having Macrae makes me nervous but he does chew up a lot of cash. I'd also prefer to have Duncan in my team but struggling again to hold that structure with the additional cost.

I really don't know what to do with the ruck line. I'm not keen on starting Gawn or Darcy, would rather watch, wouold like to get Jackson in there also but not having heard much about the Deemons pre-season and set-up has me cautious.

Still a work in progress.


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Finally found some footage of Jacko this pre-season. He makes Gawn look second rate here. Hopefully the video works, might need Facebook though.

https://fb.watch/baE1PL6nOw/
 
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My team continues to morph with the greatest exposure obviously within the ruck line. I really don't like it but I do like the minimal exposure I have on the remaining lines. not having Macrae makes me nervous but he does chew up a lot of cash. I'd also prefer to have Duncan in my team but struggling again to hold that structure with the additional cost.

I really don't know what to do with the ruck line. I'm not keen on starting Gawn or Darcy, would rather watch, wouold like to get Jackson in there also but not having heard much about the Deemons pre-season and set-up has me cautious.

Still a work in progress.


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What’s your thinking of Thomas over Butters?
No worry of lower scoring from Thomas if the Roos struggle?
 
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What’s your thinking of Thomas over Butters?
No worry of lower scoring from Thomas if the Roos struggle?
Probably midfield minutes, both have been in and out, I just feel PA have more options to run through the middle where NM are really lacking that dynamic x-factor which TT seems to be morphing into. I feel he's a bit like DeGoey though where it's a little uncertain what fwd/mid split might be but I think NM won't be as competitive so hopefully they develop him through the middle.
 
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Here's the current iteration - as usual rookies are placeholders bar a few. $1,800 remaining
DEF: Gone lighter in terms of premiums, going for value over uber premium with a view to upgrade to Lloyd and Hall when they hopefully put in a poor game.
MID: you don’t want to get mid premiums wrong and I feel Macrae, Steele and Oliver are the safest of being top 8 mids and Neale value too good to ignore. Walsh was the only other one but his injury has made that choice easier
RUC: nervous leaving Gawn out but Jackson is too good to be leaving Gawn to ruck as he used to, so that’s enough for me to leave out big Max…just. No real bench coverage could be an issue.
FWD: Dunks and Duncs too attractive to ignore in the fwd line, but have the obvious role risks. Heeney and Butters value, Cogs and Curnow too much upside to ignore
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