Discussion 2022: Rate My Team

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Geez the community games changed a lot of my thinking! Some good, but some definitely sub optimal (read: rookie issues!).

Liking this team at the moment although not 100% sold on all the picks. Think the announcements between now and round 1 teams will help shape things but ultimately, a lot will come down to who is named and where!

Calling out the notable points..

Backs - lack of decent rookies mean I've tried to get the cream. Short may become Stewart who I also really want, but basically the plan here is to o***et questionable scoring from the bottom with consistent high scoring from the top end. Sounds simple.. right?

Mids - Macrae won the coin toss due to the plethora of early games meaning he's a rock solid VC choice. Miller came in as I just love his work rate and think he can carry on the same as last year. Tossed up between Steele, Oliver and Parish.. any of them could well come in over the next week. Genuinely tough to pick 2/5 players I rate so highly! Ultimately though I think the mid rookies are a must even at their price.

Rucks - Gawn won me over.. Darcy still has a lot of upside but I think he is probably a player than can score 90 to 160.. where as Gawn will probably be more 105-135 type scoring. If Freo played early I'd be tempted to have Darcy as a VC option, but he's too risky as a C and the danger of a late out at the end of a round is very real.

Forwards - Dunkley is a defensive pick but his upside is there. If he scores how he could there is a good chance he hits 600k and destroys teams scrambling to get him in. If he scores "meh" it impacts everyone, and there is likely to be plenty of decent exit plans if he gets injured. English looked incredible in his role, basically a tall midfielder with intercept marking rather than a ruck.. think he'll score really strongly across the year and has the potential to go monster (200 point score in the past!). Gives flexibility too.. overall I think the positives outweigh the risks. Decided to fade Mcgovern due to injury risks, ultimately Brodie won that spot and I think the rest pick themselves. Bench is an obvious concern but Martin looked great in the half he played and think he's a genuine chance to force his way into the team, and Dixon gets his opportunity which is half the battle. The $47k ITB is ear marked for upgrading the rookie bench if better options present.

Welcome any feedback or thoughts!
Really like your team, I have the same structure right now (y)
 
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How's the bones looking here? I dropped Lloyd and beefed up my forward line with Heeney and spread some more cash into the mid.

  • I hate having Preuss at R2, but I'm just waiting until something more conclusive comes up
  • Rookies will of course change closer to round 1 (e.g. Hayes not looking too hot at the minute)
  • I'm unsure on the role of some of these players long term (still worried about that Neale up top news)

My watchlist is still pretty big at the moment so obviously a few changes will occur as the AAMI continues ($454k Crippa scoring 157 is super tasty!), but otherwise I'm pretty happy at the moment and would love to hear thoughts!

Cheers lads

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Geez the community games changed a lot of my thinking! Some good, but some definitely sub optimal (read: rookie issues!).

Liking this team at the moment although not 100% sold on all the picks. Think the announcements between now and round 1 teams will help shape things but ultimately, a lot will come down to who is named and where!

Calling out the notable points..

Backs - lack of decent rookies mean I've tried to get the cream. Short may become Stewart who I also really want, but basically the plan here is to o***et questionable scoring from the bottom with consistent high scoring from the top end. Sounds simple.. right?

Mids - Macrae won the coin toss due to the plethora of early games meaning he's a rock solid VC choice. Miller came in as I just love his work rate and think he can carry on the same as last year. Tossed up between Steele, Oliver and Parish.. any of them could well come in over the next week. Genuinely tough to pick 2/5 players I rate so highly! Ultimately though I think the mid rookies are a must even at their price.

Rucks - Gawn won me over.. Darcy still has a lot of upside but I think he is probably a player than can score 90 to 160.. where as Gawn will probably be more 105-135 type scoring. If Freo played early I'd be tempted to have Darcy as a VC option, but he's too risky as a C and the danger of a late out at the end of a round is very real.

Forwards - Dunkley is a defensive pick but his upside is there. If he scores how he could there is a good chance he hits 600k and destroys teams scrambling to get him in. If he scores "meh" it impacts everyone, and there is likely to be plenty of decent exit plans if he gets injured. English looked incredible in his role, basically a tall midfielder with intercept marking rather than a ruck.. think he'll score really strongly across the year and has the potential to go monster (200 point score in the past!). Gives flexibility too.. overall I think the positives outweigh the risks. Decided to fade Mcgovern due to injury risks, ultimately Brodie won that spot and I think the rest pick themselves. Bench is an obvious concern but Martin looked great in the half he played and think he's a genuine chance to force his way into the team, and Dixon gets his opportunity which is half the battle. The $47k ITB is ear marked for upgrading the rookie bench if better options present.

Welcome any feedback or thoughts!
I like this team a lot. As you said, bench rookies may be a concern. I'm hoping to get a similar structure.
 
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How's the bones looking here? I dropped Lloyd and beefed up my forward line with Heeney and spread some more cash into the mid.

  • I hate having Preuss at R2, but I'm just waiting until something more conclusive comes up
  • Rookies will of course change closer to round 1 (e.g. Hayes not looking too hot at the minute)
  • I'm unsure on the role of some of these players long term (still worried about that Neale up top news)

My watchlist is still pretty big at the moment so obviously a few changes will occur as the AAMI continues ($454k Crippa scoring 157 is super tasty!), but otherwise I'm pretty happy at the moment and would love to hear thoughts!

Cheers lads

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How's the bones looking here? I dropped Lloyd and beefed up my forward line with Heeney and spread some more cash into the mid.

  • I hate having Preuss at R2, but I'm just waiting until something more conclusive comes up
  • Rookies will of course change closer to round 1 (e.g. Hayes not looking too hot at the minute)
  • I'm unsure on the role of some of these players long term (still worried about that Neale up top news)

My watchlist is still pretty big at the moment so obviously a few changes will occur as the AAMI continues ($454k Crippa scoring 157 is super tasty!), but otherwise I'm pretty happy at the moment and would love to hear thoughts!

Cheers lads

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Structure is not fitting the rookie landscape specifically the mids. I think you need to drop both Crouch and Serong and get Stephens and Ward in for them and get JHF on field as well. Parker and Tsitas aren't going to play so get Macdonald and I think Hough will play as well. In defs get rid of Milera, Sinn looks like he is on the periphery at Port, Dean is out injured and Gould will never play for them by the looks of it. Get Hinge and Gibcus in for them. Sam Hayes wont be in the same team as Lycett so go to J Hayes and even then its a bit dangerous with Preuss at R2. Get Dunkley into your forward line and swap Rayner for one of McGovern or Xerri. Get Rachelle in for Hollands and Comben who both don't look like they'll play.
 
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Cheers lads, all good points. Yea I'm not worried too much about the rookies yet and will wait and see. Will either drop one of Crouch or Serong and upgrade my rooks into some better players. Ward and Xerri are looking fire right now so they're definitely on the list.

I'll probably regret this but I'm staying off Dunkley for now and will upgrade to him. Although I did just read he's playing inside mid...

I've jumped from "Rayner is a lock" to "Rayner is unlikely" all preseason, what a rollercoaster.
 
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The more I look at this team, the more I enjoy it... the extra 5 trades give me confidence that I'll be able to pick off one of the top 3 rucks at some stage. Maybe that's foolish. Obviously still subject to change, but if I look objectively at the rookie situation, Preuss fills me with more confidence than other options. (Sicily will obviously be on field). View attachment 40372

Obvious concern is the rucks. You've got no cover for Preuss most likely who is no certainty to play every week and the fixes are all structural nightmares that require a minimum of two trades.

Nothing else really stands out as any kind of issue to me.


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Not a fan of them at all. I'd be genuinely surprised if one of the borderline rookies we get pigeon-holed into isn't there to be used by round 3. Hayes, SDK, Soligo and MacDonald in my side all have their hands raised as candidates!

I like it and have been playing around with this same structure as it does give some flexibilty certainly around the Gawn/Darcy pick. I was sold on the Gawndy starting combo but after seeing Darcy's score for what looked a really basic game I'm thinking maybe I'd like a bit more time to have a look, also Preuss looked good and I agree ergarding English but Gawn round 1 worries me.

I'd certainly have Ward and for me it's at the expense of Xerri with Rachele forward which gives the bench cover some solid options to loop if needed (Ward, Stephens, JHF, Daicos) Xerri worries me as NM still have a few around the mark for that role.

McGovern - wish I knew more around his fitness after the game, some talk around injury, damn you Coleman for making me look at Gov.

I'm also very reluctant to fade Macrae so still have him at R1.

Cripps - I just know it's going to be more pain here but surely he can't do this 3 years running.
I don't see any real risk in fading Macrae other than the captaincy aspect but I'd be surprised if he's pounding out 160+ type scores and if people are taking a donut to get those scores I'll back the cash generation in at the end of the season. There's too many mouths to be fed at the Dogs for him to go 140+ and cost more than he does now, their pie is already bloated and more likely to get smaller than bigger so he'd need to take an even bigger slice!

If Gov is a no go there are several other options but I think that's the usual "let's stir the fantasy coaches" type of tweet that has gone nowhere since it surfaced. I'm still not opposed to Curnow or a couple of others there but can also bail him to the mids and take a Polec type.

I'll almost certainly find a way with Ward, although not huge on sacrificing Xerri right now, that one's just feeling like the right pick at this point. It's probably in large part the same as above where if he busts I feel pretty good about the Polec, Caldwell, Curnow etc bailouts, even Coleman if he only misses a game or two or Ralphsmith if he demands it.


EDIT: What are your thoughts of starting all 3 of Gibcus/Hinge/McCartin on field? Solves the 4th premo dilemma and would allow you to upgrade English to Gawn and start Ward as well.
The problem with fielding those 3 is finding a 5th rookie for the bench, honestly not entirely convinced that SDK or Hinge are there for round 1, I think they will be but there's enough chances that they're not that planning deeper than them doesn't work. I think the points are better with less DEF rookies on field and I think the cash generation in all other bench spots is better than who I'd be taking with that D8 selection.

It's the structure I want but I just don't see the option being there. I'd say I'm more likely to drop one of them down to the 125k option if it appears than I am to add that option. Just got to accept the 4 defenders and at this point it's a case of picking the whom! Ridley to Hewett does a lot of nice things elsewhere and might actually be the better play here as it structurally works.[/QUOTE]
 
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Would appreciate some thoughts here.

I've gone Marshall with the premise that Ryder out for the start of the year means he should take number 1 ruck duties for a bit. I can see him getting DPP and being a must have eventually up forward anyway.

Toss up at the moment between Touk and Oliver - similar with JHF vs. Stephens.
Will work out backline rookies hopefully as teams are revealed. May need to bring Hinge in over Sinn if he keeps moving towards the outer.

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Would appreciate some thoughts here.

I've gone Marshall with the premise that Ryder out for the start of the year means he should take number 1 ruck duties for a bit. I can see him getting DPP and being a must have eventually up forward anyway.

Toss up at the moment between Touk and Oliver - similar with JHF vs. Stephens.
Will work out backline rookies hopefully as teams are revealed. May need to bring Hinge in over Sinn if he keeps moving towards the outer.

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This team has a very similar structure to mine and I really only have one issue that I'm currently trying to work-out. Structure wise I think it is good.

But the thing I'm lease comfortable with is the back-line bench (O'Driscoll and De Konig), I am not sure that the J/S of these two is good enough to have on the bench in isolation.

As I said I have the same issue that I'm tring to work out. I think if i'm taking Sinn and McCartin on field, I would like to have at least Gibcus and De Konig/O'Driscoll on the bench for coverage.

Nice team and it might be OK with O'Driscoll and De Konig on the def bench.

I think the other issue is how many games do you expect to get out of Soligo, MacDonald and Hough? If you think you can get enough games and scoring out of them then OK, but I have my doubts.

Nice team otherwise.
 
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This team has a very similar structure to mine and I really only have one issue that I'm currently trying to work-out. Structure wise I think it is good.

But the thing I'm lease comfortable with is the back-line bench (O'Driscoll and De Konig), I am not sure that the J/S of these two is good enough to have on the bench in isolation.

As I said I have the same issue that I'm tring to work out. I think if i'm taking Sinn and McCartin on field, I would like to have at least Gibcus and De Konig/O'Driscoll on the bench for coverage.

Nice team and it might be OK with O'Driscoll and De Konig on the def bench.

I think the other issue is how many games do you expect to get out of Soligo, MacDonald and Hough? If you think you can get enough games and scoring out of them then OK, but I have my doubts.

Nice team otherwise.
Yeh rookies are a bit up in the air. I've got a bit of cash to play around with them.
Hough seemed to play solid minutes for the eagles on the weekend and with their injuries I think he gets a good run at least early on. Macdonald keeps doing all the right things and I expect him to be there R1. Soligo I might swap out for someone else, but not all that sold on anyone yet.
 
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Let the rookies be viable. Currently leaving Stephens out amongst the expensive mids, may reverse that decision, but don't like picking too many of the expensive ones as someone is bound to burn at a high price. So if I pick Stephens it will be instead of one of JHF, Daicos and Ward
 
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